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So powerful. The fact they come back into secret after dying make it really good. It's petting zoo in better since there is a 4/4 body and paladin secret are easier to play

Where is Bellringer Sentry when you need him?

Like the original version, I expect this will see play in some control decks at least -- probably not paladin (many of their good cards are 4 mana) or druid (Overgrowth is better), but maybe priest and warlock?

Very late game card

We need to learn everything about the golems to see if its worth

Big spell *any-class* incoming!

Seems better than the old one

Very late game card

Will definitely find a home... Like Guardian Druid with Survival of the Fittest can definitely run this

I was that basic guy that basically played Prince Valanar. Not sorry.

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Interesting but yeah we need to know the full golems types.

Why aren't the golems Elementals ?

Need more information...

It’s a “loose” story.  Likely meaning a Horde exp, an Alliance exp, and then a HvA exp.  Third maybe based on a WoW battleground location is my guess.

Effects we already know from MSoG:

• Icecap = freeze a random enemy minion
• Kingsblood = draw a card

Speculation for effects based on the ingredients (just from the names, I'll look into WoW descriptions too):

• Fadeleaf = stealth (Xaril, Poisoned Mind)
• Liferoot = healing or lifesteal
• Swiftthistle = rush
• Grave moss = maybe a deathrattle of some kind (ichor of undeath was resurrect) 
  • In WoW grave moss is used to create shadow oil, which is what kazakus used to make a potion add demons to your hand so may be linked to demons
• Gromsblood = +1/+1 at end of turn
• Firebloom = deal damage (Xaril, Poisoned Mind)
• Earthroot = taunt
• Sungrass = divine shield
• Mageroyal = spell damage
  • Multiple uses in wow, one of which is a potion to resist magic so maybe elusive
• Wildvine I have no idea for
  • In WoW wildvine potions restore health and mana so possibly one of these

Celestalon said (here) it will work like deathstalker rexxar so that probably means 6 herbs are keywords and 6 are effects

Never been a fan of the "no X-cost cards" mechanic, a pretty boring and nonsense limitation imho. Hope to see something new coming.

It screams cancer but at least it's a fun card to play (:

Me too! My bet is still on a 1-health Frenzy minion.

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Obviously a very powerful card just on paper, but I think it might be difficult to actually build a deck that wants this.

At 8-mana it's not an instant tempo win like Spiteful Summoner was. Add to that the fact that the 4 Old Gods now pollute the 10-mana slot so the result probably won't always be that good.

In a control deck this might just be too slow. It works in slow matchups for tempo, but the unreliable nature makes it a gamble.

I think the best  way to use this would be in a midrange/tempo deck that runs a plethora of 8-cost spells....and the only one I can imagine right now would be some sort of Elemental Mage with Grand Finale

 

Then again, this probably has some major support within the expansion itself so it will end up playable in some shape or form (at the very least it could be nuts in Arena)

A lot of the powerful value and control tools are leaving standard, and Warlock was already looking to dominate that field with the new Jaraxxus and the retention of Twisting nether. This card slots perfectly into that deck, so as long as the meta isn't overwhelmed with more aggro than controllock can deal with, this will have a place

the problem is that Warlock tends to draw a lot so there's a really low chance that you can consistently slam your Protector with Nether still in deck. You can only run one Protector in that case (unless you also run some 6-cost spells as backup) and even if that's worth it, Warlock usually is more preoccupied with staying alive rather than developing random 8-drops (although it brings more consistency to corrupting Strongman so that might be a major factor)

Old Kazakus is an incredibly strong card that makes it a must-include in highlander decks, and now it's back with golems instead of spells. It's also interesting that Kazakus, Golem Shaper now has a Prince Keleseth/Prince Valanar/Prince Taldaram effect. Not gonna lie Kazakus, Golem Shaper already seems pretty good, despite the fact that we don't know what all the effects are. 

The downside of Kazakus, Golem Shaper is that you can't have any other 4 cost cards in your deck, which could be a big downside actually. So far the best 4 cost cards in standard (After rotation) are: Baron Rivendare, Blessing of Kings, Cabal Acolyte, Circus Amalgam, Consecration, Fireball, Fire Breather, Il'gynoth, Kargath Bladefist, Kayn Sunfury, Marrowslicer, Overgrowth, Shardshatter Mystic, Ring Toss, Sword Eater, Tomb Pillager, Tidal Surge and Truesilver Champion. That are a lot of really good cards, which you can't really use if you want to play Kazakus, Golem Shaper. Kazakus, Golem Shaper has an very powerfull effect, but it does come at quite a big cost.

Actually Paladin is the class that will probably hardly ever play it, because they can't really afford to lose Truesilver Champion, Consecration and Blessing of Kings. The only reason Paladin might play it is only for the late game after they drawed their other 4 cost cards. (kinda like most very draw heavy decks run/used to run Zephrys the Great) The classes that probably does make room for it are Priest, Shaman and maybe mage?

I like it.  Great in decks that generate mana to get this early (waves at Druid).  Will definitely be trying to build decks around this card...

Thoroughly enjoyed this video. All the Wronchi ones are hilarious.

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Obviously a very powerful card just on paper, but I think it might be difficult to actually build a deck that wants this.

At 8-mana it's not an instant tempo win like Spiteful Summoner was. Add to that the fact that the 4 Old Gods now pollute the 10-mana slot so the result probably won't always be that good.

In a control deck this might just be too slow. It works in slow matchups for tempo, but the unreliable nature makes it a gamble.

I think the best  way to use this would be in a midrange/tempo deck that runs a plethora of 8-cost spells....and the only one I can imagine right now would be some sort of Elemental Mage with Grand Finale

 

Then again, this probably has some major support within the expansion itself so it will end up playable in some shape or form (at the very least it could be nuts in Arena)

A lot of the powerful value and control tools are leaving standard, and Warlock was already looking to dominate that field with the new Jaraxxus and the retention of Twisting nether. This card slots perfectly into that deck, so as long as the meta isn't overwhelmed with more aggro than controllock can deal with, this will have a place