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Yeah, it was terrible when they released Battlegrounds and Duels, just so horrifying. You really nailed it.

The cost increase is going to have a significant impact on Edwin. It makes him slower, it makes Shadowstep worse and reduces the potential for those big early game swings. The nerf to the weapon is going to slow it down as well. It will deal less damage and it will prevent Dread Corsair swings. It will still be strong but it should stop it from choking the meta. This won't make me want to play ranked again though. The nerf to Elistra is pretty harsh but she is too strong as a tempo play which isn't supposed to be her role. She is a tech card and should be used for this purpose only.

Cool :) I prefer this kind of theme over spirit blossom and singing ladies.

Aside of Tf go hard and and Tk soraka we only have inconsistant highroll achetypes on this list... what a great meta that we are in right now

Seems like they intend to abolish the Hall of Fame. Since Edwin is rotating then this pretty much means that the entirety of the classic set is getting rotated. I don't know what they are going to do but this is a major rework of the game as a whole. The first step was the economy (partially). Now, they are going to target what makes this game what it is: cards and their mechanics. I'm not enthusiastic about this. The whole Battle Pass fiasco just doesn't inspire any confidence.

Wow thats a great feature! I love maxing out everything, gonna try to level them all for sure :)

All these champions seems neat! I can't even decide which one is the coolest.

I'm sure they also have some secret content to be added (like they often do).

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"In the coming months, we’ll be sharing some more details about what the changes are and why you should be hyped for them no matter what type of player you are."

Man, this part really scares me the most. Anytime they´ve said we should be hyped or excited, something bad has happened afterwards :/

Ha ha, like no "you will be excited" but "you should be excited", because if we will not be excited the devs will argue again that we don`t understand the changes well enough and our math is wrong. XD

the nerfs are too weak

I don't really like this change, it introduces almost no change and I'm still not motivated to play until the mid expansion set. Bogspine attack is still too high and edwin is actually still ok at 4 mana. What saddens me is that edwin will rotate and I fear rogue will have no viable tempo archetype. 

So an announcement of an announcement post from the devs. Yay.

Given how they royally screwed the last major update, I'm not looking forward to the next one.

Also aren't we getting cheated out of dust that we'd normally been compensated for for having a classic card being forcibly rotated out of standard? This fact alone makes me not optimistic for the future stuff coming.

"In the coming months, we’ll be sharing some more details about what the changes are and why you should be hyped for them no matter what type of player you are."

Man, this part really scares me the most. Anytime they´ve said we should be hyped or excited, something bad has happened afterwards :/

Boggspine Knuckles got nerfed and I still don't understand the art in the card.

Dunno why you're flagged as negative (I hate this reddit system, people should argue why they disagree instead of down voting). Their changing the HoF so people can't hoard dust from them, I netted, what felt like 10k crafting golden odd cards when the Baku/Genn set got rotated out. I think HoF cards will still be playable though, they can't be that dopey.

Thanks! Here´s one back at you!

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Relax and wait? Have you been around last year?
EVERY TIME there is a change, it's in our worst interest. Battle pass, rewards, new modes, always motivated by greed.

Sure. Duplicate protection on all rarities, free Battlegrounds, battle pass actually giving more rewards than therewere before... everything is in players worst interest.

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So now what? I got slightly drunk and crafted Golden Edwin boy thinking I'd be getting a good ROI from the dust bank in a few months. Now I'm confused and a little hungover. I think I'll dust Golden Boy and recraft Regular Boy to be on the safe side and have a little more than five (5) dust stored under my mattress. 

They said “there is no additional benefit to crafting or hoarding extra Edwins” so I think the first one will still get full dust value. I dusted my regular one and crafted a golden one.

analysing the shaman and thinking that free dread corsair is the problem shows the lack of understanding team5 currently has about the power level of evolve mechanics. the issue was and has always been the ability of shaman to evolve the whole board with one card. team5 seems to repeat the same mistake over and over again. if you want to print evolve cards , that is fine but if you dont limit the number of targets it affects , the nerf will inevitably be forced upon you by the community. we will see if team5 will continue to repeat the same mistake ( history is not on their side so i am not hopeful ).

making edwin merely a threat to be dealt with within 2 turns or die , instead of auto win is a bandaid . the announcement that they will handle the hall of fame and the classic set later in a different way makes the slight nerf really confusing. why not make it 25 mana and unplayable and force people to play other decks for a month or 2 if it is temporary anyway? people played edwin since beta and this change wont change the decks or meta at all.

is the point of changing cards not to shake up meta? this time blizzard did nothing that would change anything apart from exchanging derad corsair to some other card in a single deck. 

Nice

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Rant warning.

I'm probably the only person that's sad about Edwin leaving standard. An early giant Edwin is no fun for the opponent, and I agree that a class probably shouldn't have a card that can be played in virtually any Rogue deck until the end of time. But say what you want, I like Edwin both as a character and as a card, so I will about losing him.

That said, this does allow Blizzard to be a bit freer when creating combo-related cards. Cards like Foxy Fraud and others that may not have made it into Hearthstone were probably held back due to Edwin.

As for him "rotating", but not getting hall-of-famed... I don't understand, and I suppose we won't until we have more information about it. I can imagine a few scenarios as to what this may mean:

1. They're just renaming the hall of fame, and maybe changing some of the rules regarding it (allowing expansion cards to be HoF'd, bringing HoF cards back?).
2. There will be a rotating classic set. I fail to see how this makes the game easier for players with a limited collection since the point of an evergreen set was to be helpful to players with a limited collection. 
3. There will be a complete abolishment of the evergreen set. This seems likely considering Blizzard's new mid-set thing, and it solves a lot of problems regarding the classic set. It also enables quite a bit of freedom amongst class identities. However, we will lose lots of staple cards, such as Shield Block, Wild Growth, Swipe, Shadow Word: Death, Shadow Word: Pain, Acidic Swamp Ooze, Tracking, Kill Command, Animal Companion (never Huffer again), the list goes it. On the plus side, cards like Blackjack Stunner hint towards Blizzard printing variants of a card that already exists.
4. Adding onto a potential abolishing of the evergreen set, Blizzard may start reprinting cards like MtG. Perhaps reprinting Sap and Blessing of Kings for an expansion that has a lot of buffs. Or reprinting Voidwalker if they want to push Zoolock for an expansion. Or reprinting cards midway through an expansion, perhaps during a balance patch, in order to address certain class weaknesses.

I just hope cards mentioned will actuyl eb roatted and not get the powerword shield treatment and be made itno really weak cards so they can then keep priniting a new one  evry 2years or evry yea

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I'm cautiously optimistic about this announcement. The end of the current HoF and changes aimed at "easing into playing with a limited collection" indeed suggest something like a rework of Basic/Classic sets into a rotating core set that would be available to everyone. I think that's great as it gives another way to completely shake up the meta (ideally, this would not be done at the same time as the new Hearthstone year starts, but somewhere in the middle of it) and to create new archetypes that are not based on the same building blocks that we have seen for years. 

But most importantly. they can now put actually strong cards into the Core set without the fear that they will dominate forever. Or cards that synergize with the current expansions (for example, some deathrattle support for hunter). Because right now, the power level of the Basic and Classic sets is -bar a few exceptions which we have all seen a million times - laughably bad. And there is pretty much no other way, or it would forever dominate all archetypes (hence the nerfs/HoF of many evergreen cards).

Of course, a lot depends on the execution. Given recent experiences, some skepticism is justified as well - but overall, I'm happy to hear this.

Classic rework we know, but rotating core se ti still heavly doubt. I think its more likyl just get  abunch of weak replacements an that evryone egts and that serves as new core set

I mean unless you want to play edwin right now, there's no point recrafting regular boy, right?

I don't know if anyone is throwing snowballs at me or not, but I WILL STILL THROW THEM TO YOU