Is there any legit way of restarting anyway? Played like 9 matches last week but couldn't find that retire button anywhere. Seems like once you're locked in, you can't just get out like you can in arena.
A retire button shows up under the hero portrait after your first duel (at least, it has in the past and is supposed to)
My prediction: Blizzard is testing how far they can go, that is pretty obvious. Due to the backlash they will backtrack and improve the system (not to the previous level though), then issue a statement how sorry they are and how much they listen to player feedback (bla bla bla) and that they therefore have decided to improve the system. The improvement however will not be enough to reach the previous level. And then discussions will die down until the next time.
I am pretty pissed off right now, especially as I bought the pass on launch day (believed them that everything will be fine). Not ready to quit HS yet but I have decided to go full F2P for the foreseeable future. No longer paying money for this game is the only language they understand.
P.S. Also the timing of the release and lack of information before borders on insolence. They clearly timed this to not hurt the DF pre-sales, which tells us that they were fully aware of the fact that players will be worse off. I would go so far to say that some statements they made were on the border of intentional lies.
Mother of god... I am happy I am done with this game. Hearing about this new reward system and reading about people feeling scammed after pack openings (pack system is really a terrible system) makes me feel so happy about playing LoR. I put a few bucks in the game to start with to get my collection going and now I am self-sufficient and can craft the remaning cards and the upcoming the expansion if I wanted to - and keep in mind that I am not a hardcore grinder.
What a cash grab Hearthstone has become. 2x pre-orders (140 EUR) AND a battlepas (20 EUR) AND you will probably still miss 50 % of the expansion? My fucking god.
Yes, this changes pretty much suck. Now just to wait and see if they make some changes.
If something, they really can’t make a system that gives too many things at first or they will need to tune it down eventually and they “will be taking away things" from the players and everyone will really get pissed. So, I think they are at first introducing something that they can tune up and “give us extra things” and people will be happy instead.
I really hoped against all hope that Blizzard would not fuck this up, and it really ruined my mood for this whole expansion.
We as paying customers deserve at least some level of decency, especially since Blizzard seems content to just continue milking us without actually doing anything. Its a whole one step forward, three steps back.We need to keep Blizzard to at least some fucking standards, even after the Blizzard employee comes out and gives every synonym on the book for “sorry, we’ll try harder in the future”.
Also not to mention... by adding 35 card miniexpansions (which is great) they increase the cardpool by 30%, so you should be able to earn 30% more resources just to keep up. But no, you will earn less.
Its still too soon to see if they would double down on this. I'm fairly certainly they will eventually tweak the rewards, maybe before the release of Darkmoon, or somewhere around 2 weeks to a month.
I highly doubt that Blizzard would try to change the new system that they just released. The earliest time they would probably change the system is probably the next expansion after Darkmoon Faire, and I think that by itself is already an optimistic prediction. They took a while to implement the tavern pass system in the first place and if they are probably going to change it drastically, it's probably going to take a lot of effort and that's something they probably don't have anymore.
Probably the second worse Battle Pass I've seen behind The Avengers Battle Passess. This system as it stands completly kills F2P and has now become P2W. It incentivises you to buy both preorders just to make sure you have enough cards to compete in the meta and have fun decksperimenting. Probably by the time you complete it and start earning and saving gold as you level up (You know, the thing that people want to do before the next expansion), the new expanison will be just around the corner. And let's not forget the mini-expanison in-between that. This is probably f**king Activision getting their greedy hands on Blizzard's games and monitizing the s**t out of them just to increase profits. Well you are going to turn alot of heads for both Veterans and new players if things stay the way they are.
Just like every other blizzard Activision controversy they will just sweep it under the rug and people will still play. Reddit will soy for the game after a couple weeks and forget all about this when trolden or some other reactionary posts a video about yogg or some dumb shit. I foresaw this coming when this system was announced. Itll be shit, people will complain, actiblizz wont do shit about it. People will forget and move on. Just like them changing the card art for china. Just like them banning casters for no reason just like everything.and I pity you if you thought this wouldn't happen. An orangutan can notice patterns better than this.
Honestly we should really begin asking ourselves how the Hearthstone monitisation is even ethical anymore. Blizzard expects us to drop 80$, more than any AAA-game on release date, three times a year - and you get like 30% of the expansion, not even all of it!
I shiver when I think how much money they got from me over the years.
Its still too soon to see if they would double down on this. I'm fairly certainly they will eventually tweak the rewards, maybe before the release of Darkmoon, or somewhere around 2 weeks to a month.
Its obvious right now that nearly every player is hating it and if they don't resolve this shit then its likely that all future events would be drown out by this particular period of history.
Not that I subscribe to the conspiracy theory of where corporate pushes unacceptable bs now and then later hailed as heroes for fixing the mess they started in the first place, but if they do fix this system, that would be a good start to reset relations.
Of all the classes, Shaman seems to be the one class that gets the most "what on EARTH is this thing's purpose for existing?" cards. Magicfin aside, I quite like all the revealed cards, but it remains to be seen if anything meaningful comes out of it. I saw a few people play a Y'Shaarj, the Defiler Shaman OTK deck during the theorycrafting stream: once you get Corrupt the Waters online, you play Tour Guide, and next turn you hero power and play Y'Shaarj, the Defiler getting millions of corrupted Dunk Tanks and Circus Medics. This deck seems the most promising considering Shaman's truly exceptional control tools, but it unfortunately doesn't make use of any of the Enhancement Shaman cards revealed.
People on Reddit did the calcs.. the rewards are not the same,
Everything that is wrong:
-The exp per game played is pathetic
- The rewards are less than they used to be
-Pack rewards are terrible (Specially year of the dragon packs.. at level 45...)
-The tavern pass is not part of the preorder
-Blizzard makes content creators to shut up about it or ELSE (this is the worst part tbh..)
I will let zeddy talk:
I am hovering over that uninstall button.. not china.. not other controversies done it. not the fact that I was barely playing anymore anyway.. this.. is just the last straw I was expecting this system hoped it would be awesome and all.. but nope it's a big slap in the face!
My go to card game is gonna be LoR from now on, was for a while anyway, see you there.
The obvious answer is just "ignore and go face 4Head". I realise it's quite a non-answer, but I really don't know how else to deal with it. It seems like quite a polarising treasure, since it's quite bad against Warrior and Mage, but really powerful against almost every other class.
I think they changed something. I played duel today and got exp for playing, while it should be only in ranked and BG. So keep going guys and we are gonna be rich!
I'm now the epitome of the Dirty Casual after being a Whale since Beta. This new Progression Tracker is looking like its going to push me so far out that I now won't be able to keep up. For instance, since going F2P after Rastakhans I earned anywhere between 6000-8500g between Expansions. Its not looking likely now is it?
At the very least they are giving tools to shaman to make that class viable again. I think that class has the most tools to make a f*ck rez priest deck.
I'll try warrior or mage next time, they seems to counterplay this treasure. Some treasures are quite strong against hero power and it feels very unbalanced sometimes but this mode is fun. Let see how it goes in the future.
The card draw and discount lends itself well to a Zoolock playstyle, but I don't know if Free Admission is good enough. I'm concerned about the consistency of drawing exactly two demons with this, as you'd want to run non-demon minions as well as spells in a Zoolock. Also, Voracious Reader has made any 3 mana draw 2 feel inefficient in aggro decks. Overall, I just think the bonus effect is inconsistent and the base effect isn't good enough for aggression in Hearthstone today.
Lol, is this for real? If so, it's another nail in the coffin. It is possible to complete them in Duels (with all the craziness of that mode), but not in the only constructed mode in which you are actually not punished for doing silly stuff. Oh Blizzard, give me a break.
Is Duels broken for anyone else?
A retire button shows up under the hero portrait after your first duel (at least, it has in the past and is supposed to)
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
My prediction: Blizzard is testing how far they can go, that is pretty obvious. Due to the backlash they will backtrack and improve the system (not to the previous level though), then issue a statement how sorry they are and how much they listen to player feedback (bla bla bla) and that they therefore have decided to improve the system. The improvement however will not be enough to reach the previous level. And then discussions will die down until the next time.
I am pretty pissed off right now, especially as I bought the pass on launch day (believed them that everything will be fine). Not ready to quit HS yet but I have decided to go full F2P for the foreseeable future. No longer paying money for this game is the only language they understand.
P.S. Also the timing of the release and lack of information before borders on insolence. They clearly timed this to not hurt the DF pre-sales, which tells us that they were fully aware of the fact that players will be worse off. I would go so far to say that some statements they made were on the border of intentional lies.
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
Mother of god... I am happy I am done with this game. Hearing about this new reward system and reading about people feeling scammed after pack openings (pack system is really a terrible system) makes me feel so happy about playing LoR. I put a few bucks in the game to start with to get my collection going and now I am self-sufficient and can craft the remaning cards and the upcoming the expansion if I wanted to - and keep in mind that I am not a hardcore grinder.
What a cash grab Hearthstone has become. 2x pre-orders (140 EUR) AND a battlepas (20 EUR) AND you will probably still miss 50 % of the expansion? My fucking god.
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
Yes, this changes pretty much suck. Now just to wait and see if they make some changes.
If something, they really can’t make a system that gives too many things at first or they will need to tune it down eventually and they “will be taking away things" from the players and everyone will really get pissed. So, I think they are at first introducing something that they can tune up and “give us extra things” and people will be happy instead.
I hope it is something like that.
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
I really hoped against all hope that Blizzard would not fuck this up, and it really ruined my mood for this whole expansion.
We as paying customers deserve at least some level of decency, especially since Blizzard seems content to just continue milking us without actually doing anything. Its a whole one step forward, three steps back.We need to keep Blizzard to at least some fucking standards, even after the Blizzard employee comes out and gives every synonym on the book for “sorry, we’ll try harder in the future”.
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
Also not to mention... by adding 35 card miniexpansions (which is great) they increase the cardpool by 30%, so you should be able to earn 30% more resources just to keep up. But no, you will earn less.
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
I highly doubt that Blizzard would try to change the new system that they just released. The earliest time they would probably change the system is probably the next expansion after Darkmoon Faire, and I think that by itself is already an optimistic prediction. They took a while to implement the tavern pass system in the first place and if they are probably going to change it drastically, it's probably going to take a lot of effort and that's something they probably don't have anymore.
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
Probably the second worse Battle Pass I've seen behind The Avengers Battle Passess. This system as it stands completly kills F2P and has now become P2W. It incentivises you to buy both preorders just to make sure you have enough cards to compete in the meta and have fun decksperimenting. Probably by the time you complete it and start earning and saving gold as you level up (You know, the thing that people want to do before the next expansion), the new expanison will be just around the corner. And let's not forget the mini-expanison in-between that. This is probably f**king Activision getting their greedy hands on Blizzard's games and monitizing the s**t out of them just to increase profits. Well you are going to turn alot of heads for both Veterans and new players if things stay the way they are.
As AngryJoe would say:
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
Just like every other blizzard Activision controversy they will just sweep it under the rug and people will still play. Reddit will soy for the game after a couple weeks and forget all about this when trolden or some other reactionary posts a video about yogg or some dumb shit. I foresaw this coming when this system was announced. Itll be shit, people will complain, actiblizz wont do shit about it. People will forget and move on. Just like them changing the card art for china. Just like them banning casters for no reason just like everything.and I pity you if you thought this wouldn't happen. An orangutan can notice patterns better than this.
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
Honestly we should really begin asking ourselves how the Hearthstone monitisation is even ethical anymore. Blizzard expects us to drop 80$, more than any AAA-game on release date, three times a year - and you get like 30% of the expansion, not even all of it!
I shiver when I think how much money they got from me over the years.
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
Its still too soon to see if they would double down on this. I'm fairly certainly they will eventually tweak the rewards, maybe before the release of Darkmoon, or somewhere around 2 weeks to a month.
Its obvious right now that nearly every player is hating it and if they don't resolve this shit then its likely that all future events would be drown out by this particular period of history.
Not that I subscribe to the conspiracy theory of where corporate pushes unacceptable bs now and then later hailed as heroes for fixing the mess they started in the first place, but if they do fix this system, that would be a good start to reset relations.
Our Thoughts on Hearthstone's Madness at the Darkmoon Faire Shaman Cards
Of all the classes, Shaman seems to be the one class that gets the most "what on EARTH is this thing's purpose for existing?" cards. Magicfin aside, I quite like all the revealed cards, but it remains to be seen if anything meaningful comes out of it. I saw a few people play a Y'Shaarj, the Defiler Shaman OTK deck during the theorycrafting stream: once you get Corrupt the Waters online, you play Tour Guide, and next turn you hero power and play Y'Shaarj, the Defiler getting millions of corrupted Dunk Tanks and Circus Medics. This deck seems the most promising considering Shaman's truly exceptional control tools, but it unfortunately doesn't make use of any of the Enhancement Shaman cards revealed.
CUwUte Pawadin UwU!
Jesus Chwist this descwiption is hard to wead
Blizzard LIED and it's NOT FINE
People on Reddit did the calcs.. the rewards are not the same,
Everything that is wrong:
-The exp per game played is pathetic
- The rewards are less than they used to be
-Pack rewards are terrible (Specially year of the dragon packs.. at level 45...)
-The tavern pass is not part of the preorder
-Blizzard makes content creators to shut up about it or ELSE (this is the worst part tbh..)
I will let zeddy talk:
I am hovering over that uninstall button.. not china.. not other controversies done it. not the fact that I was barely playing anymore anyway.. this.. is just the last straw I was expecting this system hoped it would be awesome and all.. but nope it's a big slap in the face!
My go to card game is gonna be LoR from now on, was for a while anyway, see you there.
Edit: uninstalled the game.
Advice needed
The obvious answer is just "ignore and go face 4Head". I realise it's quite a non-answer, but I really don't know how else to deal with it. It seems like quite a polarising treasure, since it's quite bad against Warrior and Mage, but really powerful against almost every other class.
Blizzard Responds to Hearthstone Battle Pass Experience Concerns
I think they changed something. I played duel today and got exp for playing, while it should be only in ranked and BG. So keep going guys and we are gonna be rich!
Blizzard Responds to Hearthstone Battle Pass Experience Concerns
I'm now the epitome of the Dirty Casual after being a Whale since Beta. This new Progression Tracker is looking like its going to push me so far out that I now won't be able to keep up. For instance, since going F2P after Rastakhans I earned anywhere between 6000-8500g between Expansions. Its not looking likely now is it?
On the plus side I'm quite enjoying Duels.
Our Thoughts on Hearthstone's Madness at the Darkmoon Faire Priest Cards
I agree as a priest hater.
At the very least they are giving tools to shaman to make that class viable again. I think that class has the most tools to make a f*ck rez priest deck.
Completing Your Darkmoon Faire Achievements Before the Madness Arrives as a Free to Play Player
Just do them when you hit a floor in the ranking, like rank 10 or 5.
Advice needed
I'll try warrior or mage next time, they seems to counterplay this treasure. Some treasures are quite strong against hero power and it feels very unbalanced sometimes but this mode is fun. Let see how it goes in the future.
Grand Totem Eys'or is a New Legendary Shaman Totem Revealed for Hearthstone's Darkmoon Faire Expansion
Yeah... Hemet Nesingwary Rend Blackhand
New Warlock Spell - Free Admission
The card draw and discount lends itself well to a Zoolock playstyle, but I don't know if Free Admission is good enough. I'm concerned about the consistency of drawing exactly two demons with this, as you'd want to run non-demon minions as well as spells in a Zoolock. Also, Voracious Reader has made any 3 mana draw 2 feel inefficient in aggro decks. Overall, I just think the bonus effect is inconsistent and the base effect isn't good enough for aggression in Hearthstone today.
Madness at the Darkmoon Faire - Reveal Season Community Bingo
Yay, we got BINGO twice! :D
Does that mean twice the RNG for pack openings? :O
Blizzard Responds to Hearthstone Battle Pass Experience Concerns
Just keep complaining guys :) blizz will be forced to change the progression values, or re-evaluate the entire system, than risk losing players.
I still applaud them for putting in the effort for this new system. They could have easily just left dailies and gold gain just as it was
Completing Your Darkmoon Faire Achievements Before the Madness Arrives as a Free to Play Player
Lol, is this for real? If so, it's another nail in the coffin. It is possible to complete them in Duels (with all the craziness of that mode), but not in the only constructed mode in which you are actually not punished for doing silly stuff. Oh Blizzard, give me a break.