I'm excited for this card because I like the Cyclone Mage style of decks; however, I know wild is not looking forward to another good tool for Wild Quest Mage.
I'm not sure this card will be good, but I'm excited to see if it finds a niche in a standard Cyclone Mage.
I thought this was going to be strong upon first release, then I saw other cards from the set and was not so impressed, then I saw it in action and changed my mind again...
I think this will be good in the right situations, but not an obvious power house of the set.
This card seems ridiculously good both when played from hand or when cheated out via something like Guardian Animals. I expect this to see a solid amount of experimentation since you can almost always guarantee the card draw.
The pros have tested it, and it's a nightmare... Yay! There are so many openers that make this good since Druid has so many low cost spells and buff spells.
Since the copies have Spellburst, this card is going to be a nightmare.
I don't think Priest will run this on its own, but this might make Cobalt Spellkin worth including in some dragon-oriented lists just for the chance of getting some of these.
Maybe the discount pushes the archetype just enough to make it playable in standard?
I don't disagree with you. There are definitely negatives when we incentivize discussing these cards and even rating them. I believe the potential benefits outweigh the negatives though.
To start, with votes. We get enough "legitimate" votes that I don't believe we're going to skew this in the wrong direction. Yes, there will always be some bad apples who go through and vote the same 1 star or 5 stars on every single card, but it shouldn't hurt things for our compendium because there are way more people voting properly. We also have the option of removing votes before compendium ships if anyone seems to be manipulating things. I haven't had to pull that trigger yet and don't think it'll happen.
Now, discussion. This is the one that has the best chance of going downhill. There are a few things I want to bring up though.
It gets more people to participate long-term
I actually had just brought this up on our site support channel on Discord. I've noticed that when we do these sorts of things, so people will sign up for an account or actually login for a change and start having meaningful discussion on the cards. This brings people into our community in a contributing role which is awesome! Some of these people do stick around and participate in other forums of discussion on the site too which gives us more activity, creating some nice positive ripples.
It can be hard to jump into a community, intimidating even. Giving people an easy way to jump into things is very important and something I think we could do better. Hearthstone is old, and a lot of us have known each other for some amount of time longer than Out of Cards has existed, so that can be tough to break into.
These are only initial reviews
A lot of what people are saying about these cards is going to be hilariously incorrect once the expansion comes out. One could argue it isn't even worth having the threads available since no one is going to be able to have a proper discussion anyway. This is especially true if one considers that the card threads that are created earlier in the reveal cycle have nowhere near a complete picture of what Scholomance looks like. Should we consider that to be a lower quality discussion because pieces of the puzzle were missing? Some might argue it is.
Lazy people don't usually participate
Looking back at the past couple of these, some people end up rating a handful of cards or with some "low quality" discussion on, again, only a handful of cards. It takes a LOT of effort to rate and discuss every card that gets revealed and it's clear even when we did card pack giveaways for participation, so it isn't always worth it.
Also, what one person may consider "low quality" or "unqualified" isn't necessarily the case and can be a bit of a crummy way of looking at it (I'm guilty here at times). Not everyone is able to correctly articulate all their thoughts, some people just want to say something is cool without giving it a full review, and others may simply want to ask questions that as newer players they don't understand but veterans it is first nature. Being more inclusive to all these types of people makes us a better, stronger community. We should try and keep things positive if possible and encourage participation.
With all that said though, if there are people just spamming nonsense, such as copy-pasting the same thing to every thread, I have zero issues with wiping their posts out. You can report posts you truly believe do not belong there and we can make a call on it. To those reading this comment, reporting should only be reserved as a last resort for spam and not just something you may consider "low quality".
Hello. I am experiencing a problem with Hearthstone Arena. When I try to enter the arena interface, the wheel just keeps spinning and all buttons become unclickable, but then I realised something when I moved my mouse around randomly, at one point some text came up (see this screenshot: https://imgur.com/hGO1onM ) so i started clicking around and it eventually "started" searching for an opponent, but after 2 seconds it says "There was an error starting your game. Please wait a few minutes and try again."
I took a video of it: https://streamable.com/b2ee87
Has anybody experienced something like this? I have tried different devices over different days and there is no problem on my other accounts, only on Europe
Probably one of the weaker studies cards in the set.
Just like the other studies, this enables combos and tempo plays never seen before, but demons just aren't super strong compared to other tribes/effects.
Because this was one of the first cards released, I was shocked and thought this would be a star card. After seeing the rest of the cards, I now know that this is likely going to be pretty average for the set, but it is probably going to find its way into some kind of list in standard.
New Rogue & Warrior Spell - Coerce
Seems good...? Worse than execute without the combo, but ridiculous with the combo???
I suspect this will see a lot of play, especially in control Warrior.
New Neutral Minion - Wandmaker
I'm excited for this card because I like the Cyclone Mage style of decks; however, I know wild is not looking forward to another good tool for Wild Quest Mage.
I'm not sure this card will be good, but I'm excited to see if it finds a niche in a standard Cyclone Mage.
New Priest & Warlock Minion - Flesh Giant
Good tie in with both classes, so easy to trigger and get a 0 cost in warlock.
New Druid Spell - Survival of the Fittest
Powerful effect but I can’t see it being used all that often.
New Warrior Spell - Athletic Studies
Seems very strong to me just because rush minions are generally overpowered in the first place.
Very few minions will be undesirable, but discover allows us to weed them out. PLUS there is a discount on the next rush minion played?!
I expect this to be fairly common in Warrior.
New Druid & Hunter Minion - Teacher's Pet
Good body, death rattle is ok but nothing spectacular.
New Neutral Minion - Wretched Tutor
I thought this was going to be strong upon first release, then I saw other cards from the set and was not so impressed, then I saw it in action and changed my mind again...
I think this will be good in the right situations, but not an obvious power house of the set.
New Druid Minion - Twilight Runner
This card seems ridiculously good both when played from hand or when cheated out via something like Guardian Animals. I expect this to see a solid amount of experimentation since you can almost always guarantee the card draw.
New Druid Minion - Gibberling
The pros have tested it, and it's a nightmare... Yay! There are so many openers that make this good since Druid has so many low cost spells and buff spells.
Since the copies have Spellburst, this card is going to be a nightmare.
Not going to be surprised if it gets nerfed.
New Neutral Minion - Ogremancer
Me have bad stats for the cost :(
New Priest Spell - Draconic Studies
Worse than Draconic Lackey. TRASH!
JK JK
I don't think Priest will run this on its own, but this might make Cobalt Spellkin worth including in some dragon-oriented lists just for the chance of getting some of these.
Maybe the discount pushes the archetype just enough to make it playable in standard?
This is a hard one to call...
Carrion Studies
This card could have been a Hunter-Rogue dual class, if such a pairing existed.
New Druid Spell - Survival of the Fittest
I'm dreading the day when this gets cheated out really early using Innervate and/orLightning Bloom!
New Neutral Minion - Onyx Magescribe
Great arena card. Great discover card. Probably never going to be put in a list in constructed. Not much else to say about this one.
New Neutral Minion - Sorcerous Substitute
Just think, with a single shaman totem, this card can double its effectiveness.
New Shaman Minion - Totem Goliath
Very excited for this card because I love totem support since they have been so useless for so long!
I really wish this didn't have overload, but I guess that is what it costs to summon 4 mediocre totems as a deathrattle. Oh well...
New Demon Hunter & Warlock Spell - Soul Shear
Solid card that will definitely see play. Hopefully Soul Fragment decks turn out to be playable, it seems like a fun mechanic.
Scholomance Academy
I don't disagree with you. There are definitely negatives when we incentivize discussing these cards and even rating them. I believe the potential benefits outweigh the negatives though.
To start, with votes. We get enough "legitimate" votes that I don't believe we're going to skew this in the wrong direction. Yes, there will always be some bad apples who go through and vote the same 1 star or 5 stars on every single card, but it shouldn't hurt things for our compendium because there are way more people voting properly. We also have the option of removing votes before compendium ships if anyone seems to be manipulating things. I haven't had to pull that trigger yet and don't think it'll happen.
Now, discussion. This is the one that has the best chance of going downhill. There are a few things I want to bring up though.
It gets more people to participate long-term
I actually had just brought this up on our site support channel on Discord. I've noticed that when we do these sorts of things, so people will sign up for an account or actually login for a change and start having meaningful discussion on the cards. This brings people into our community in a contributing role which is awesome! Some of these people do stick around and participate in other forums of discussion on the site too which gives us more activity, creating some nice positive ripples.
It can be hard to jump into a community, intimidating even. Giving people an easy way to jump into things is very important and something I think we could do better. Hearthstone is old, and a lot of us have known each other for some amount of time longer than Out of Cards has existed, so that can be tough to break into.
These are only initial reviews
A lot of what people are saying about these cards is going to be hilariously incorrect once the expansion comes out. One could argue it isn't even worth having the threads available since no one is going to be able to have a proper discussion anyway. This is especially true if one considers that the card threads that are created earlier in the reveal cycle have nowhere near a complete picture of what Scholomance looks like. Should we consider that to be a lower quality discussion because pieces of the puzzle were missing? Some might argue it is.
Lazy people don't usually participate
Looking back at the past couple of these, some people end up rating a handful of cards or with some "low quality" discussion on, again, only a handful of cards. It takes a LOT of effort to rate and discuss every card that gets revealed and it's clear even when we did card pack giveaways for participation, so it isn't always worth it.
Also, what one person may consider "low quality" or "unqualified" isn't necessarily the case and can be a bit of a crummy way of looking at it (I'm guilty here at times). Not everyone is able to correctly articulate all their thoughts, some people just want to say something is cool without giving it a full review, and others may simply want to ask questions that as newer players they don't understand but veterans it is first nature. Being more inclusive to all these types of people makes us a better, stronger community. We should try and keep things positive if possible and encourage participation.
With all that said though, if there are people just spamming nonsense, such as copy-pasting the same thing to every thread, I have zero issues with wiping their posts out. You can report posts you truly believe do not belong there and we can make a call on it. To those reading this comment, reporting should only be reserved as a last resort for spam and not just something you may consider "low quality".
Hello. I am experiencing a problem with Hearthstone Arena. When I try to enter the arena interface, the wheel just keeps spinning and all buttons become unclickable, but then I realised something when I moved my mouse around randomly, at one point some text came up (see this screenshot: https://imgur.com/hGO1onM ) so i started clicking around and it eventually "started" searching for an opponent, but after 2 seconds it says "There was an error starting your game. Please wait a few minutes and try again."
I took a video of it: https://streamable.com/b2ee87
Has anybody experienced something like this? I have tried different devices over different days and there is no problem on my other accounts, only on Europe
New Warlock Spell - Demonic Studies
Probably one of the weaker studies cards in the set.
Just like the other studies, this enables combos and tempo plays never seen before, but demons just aren't super strong compared to other tribes/effects.
I doubt this will see much play.
New Rogue & Warrior Spell - Cutting Class
I guess this is (kind of?) worth it even with a two attack weapon because it is just Arcane Intellect. But obviously it's better if it's cheaper!
New Druid Spell - Survival of the Fittest
I'm afraid for my sanity if this sees play in a competitive deck... or decks.
Since ramp Druid is currently viable, I'm scared my fears will come true.
Strong card, but I'm hoping I'm overreacting.
New Neutral Minion - Cult Neophyte
Because this was one of the first cards released, I was shocked and thought this would be a star card. After seeing the rest of the cards, I now know that this is likely going to be pretty average for the set, but it is probably going to find its way into some kind of list in standard.
Maybe battlecry Shaman uses this?
Hearthstone's August Card Back, Scholomance Academy, Has Arrived!
In the spirit of Scholomance, me too.
New Neutral Minion - Sneaky Delinquent
Decent in rogue with the stealth package, meh anywhere else.