Veranus + Explosive, Veranus + UtH, Veranus + your board. Tho i guess you want to build a Spell Hunter? Weak AOE is obviously the weakness for Hunter by design, so not many choices there. Wild Pyromancer is always an option too. Or just dont let it get that far in a first place.
Even tho I'm not grand prize winner I'm still pretty happy to be a runner-up. This is the best community giveaway I participated in. It was fun doing it!
Same here - 2nd place and was great to see so many people get involved :) Grats to the 1st place people
Yup, we're on it! We could add them manually, but Flux was rendering cards yesterday, so it would just be an extra work for nothing really. Wait a bit longer, we'll add them for sure ;-)
My girlfriend related to the Tyrande-issue with a story from school: there was a pupil who was allowed to leave early once a week (don't know why). Another pupil went forth and asked the prinicipal to be allowed to leave early as well - that's just fine, everybody can plead for equal rights. But when the second pupil was rejected (probably because nr. 1 had reasons nr. 2 couldn't provide), nr. 2 then asked to strip nr. 1 from their privilege to reinstate equality. And this is not okay. As long as nr. 2 isn't directly or indirectly harmed by nr. 1s privilege, nr. 2 may try to get it for his/herself, but should refrain from trying to pull down nr. 1.
A cop stops two cars for speeding. He greets the one and lets him ho. Then he gives you a fine.
From your point of view it is absolutely OK, because you should not take into consideration someones privilege.
deck aims to shit their draw and make them draw useless 1-costs to have silly moments you don't wait a win-condition here.
Think that like a mill deck. You want to make your opponent fatigue to death. This deck wants to make opponent draw nothing useful but 1/1s. to make them mad.
Win condition is this.
Necrium Apothecary also can only bring Albatrosses because it is the only deathrattle minion so I don't think that you can't draw albatrosses.
It is not a general empathy tho. It is empathy for this case and something appeared just because people's attitude and answers.
It is in this order;
me: "I want you guys to obtain the skin but if you are obtaining it, I deserve a compensation, don't I". people: "no you fucking loser ! We deserve that skin ! You did nothing to obtain it ! " me: "Look; I already want that skin for you, can't you show some empathy towards me in this situation ?" people: " No way ! You can't deserve a compensation just because you are in the right place in the right time ! " me: "So people, listen me, I did that mistake before, I want to suggest you not support the game about limited time content like me just because there is a possibility that they might trick you too." someone: something: "something, something, children's card game, something, you are giving so much value to a gif, something !!!@@!!@!!" me : " something, something, flame, something, insults, something, toxic, something !!@!@!@" people: "STFU ! We don't need a losers suggestion, That was your fault to be tricked at first place !" me: "Ok thanks for the discussion, I've gained something here and fuck y'all ! " people: "Thanks ! Some of us also gained something and Fuck you too ! " at the end we all: "Some off-topic example arguments!"
I actually read the whole post and I don't think that is an accurate representation of how it went down. I know you are obviously simplifieng and exaggerating to get your point across. However there was a fair share of arguments made, like how you weren't really tricked since it was never clearly said tyrande would never be available again, it was discussed if people who already own her should get compensation, people from both side gave different opinions and so on. Of course there are always people who insult and bring the children's cards game-argument, this is the internet after all. But I think there where a lot of points made in this thread, it seems that there are more people happy about tyrande coming back than people who feel cheated. Yet you are not alone, but you are the minority. If you think you can convince everyone to think like you and feel for you, then you will be disappointed. Most people mainly care about themselves and don't show empathy for strangers, especially if they are in different circumstances than they are and especially especially if they are some what anonymous on the internet. Don't keep pushing, you are fighting windmills here buddy.
I am already saying that I really gained something in this discussion. I am not pushing anything.
Also true that, not saying anything can't be lying. So Blizzard's not saying that Tyrande might come back can't make it exclusivity a lie.
I am %90 sure of that at first revealed, Tyrande was prime-exclusive after so much whines because people likes the skin so much Blizzard changed their mind and threw it in a pool as a weapon "if we lose consumers in some time, we can use it to bring back them."
Anyways, really tired of explaining stuff. I had opened the forum because of sharing my custom created expansion today while responding other answers but can't even complete to add explains and all the cards because of trying to explain myself and respond to this thread and I didn't have time to do so and a bit frustrated to discuss this long.
I might not respond anytime soon here.
For people I upset, sorry for that but know that you also upset me, I don't upset people unless they are attacking me and for people who discussed it in healthy way, thanks all for your comments, I've learnt and gained something here, I hope you gained too but if you say "meh, you can't add me anything." That's also ok.
I would bet that was Blizzards request rather than artist. You can see he made 3 versions and in each Reno is startled. I guess they wanted it to look more lighthearted.
It is not a general empathy tho. It is empathy for this case and something appeared just because people's attitude and answers.
It is in this order;
me: "I want you guys to obtain the skin but if you are obtaining it, I deserve a compensation, don't I". people: "no you fucking loser ! We deserve that skin ! You did nothing to obtain it ! " me: "Look; I already want that skin for you, can't you show some empathy towards me in this situation ?" people: " No way ! You can't deserve a compensation just because you are in the right place in the right time ! " me: "So people, listen me, I did that mistake before, I want to suggest you not support the game about limited time content like me just because there is a possibility that they might trick you too." someone: something: "something, something, children's card game, something, you are giving so much value to a gif, something !!!@@!!@!!" me : " something, something, flame, something, insults, something, toxic, something !!@!@!@" people: "STFU ! We don't need a losers suggestion, That was your fault to be tricked at first place !" me: "Ok thanks for the discussion, I've gained something here and fuck y'all ! " people: "Thanks ! Some of us also gained something and Fuck you too ! " at the end we all: "Some off-topic example arguments!"
I actually read the whole post and I don't think that is an accurate representation of how it went down. I know you are obviously simplifieng and exaggerating to get your point across. However there was a fair share of arguments made, like how you weren't really tricked since it was never clearly said tyrande would never be available again, it was discussed if people who already own her should get compensation, people from both side gave different opinions and so on. Of course there are always people who insult and bring the children's cards game-argument, this is the internet after all. But I think there where a lot of points made in this thread, it seems that there are more people happy about tyrande coming back than people who feel cheated. Yet you are not alone, but you are the minority. If you think you can convince everyone to think like you and feel for you, then you will be disappointed. Most people mainly care about themselves and don't show empathy for strangers, especially if they are in different circumstances than they are and especially especially if they are some what anonymous on the internet. Don't keep pushing, you are fighting windmills here buddy.
I find it funny that every single post upset by the lack of compensation for the people who already owned Tyrande is getting downvoted into oblivion. Here, on Reddit, everywhere. You have to add a 'I'm glad you guys are getting her too' disclaimer to any post that touches this subject or else you're just gonna get spammed with red arrows. I think this shows how small of a minority the Tyrande owners actually are, in which case it really boggles my mind, why not offer a compensation in the first place? When I heard that Tyrande will be free with the arrival of a new $10 hero, I honestly thought Sylvanas will be given for those that don't apply, but hey apparently not.
On one hand I really am glad more people will be able to switch out of Anduin, as I don't give two hoots about exclusivity. But on the other hand, I do feel like I earned her: by being a long-time customer, paying attention to Hearthstone-related news, and spending a full two hours learning and troubleshooting the process of getting her since I was not part of the eligible countries either. Others got Tyrande by buying an overpriced code off eBay and whatever too. It's really, really not that far-fetched to want this effort to be acknowledged, and I'm sure more people would be able to sympathize with this situation if they didn't see any criticism of it as selfishness and entitlement, which in most cases it certainly is not.
Then again at the end of the day we're still all arguing about .jpg's, so what do I know.
The effort was acknowledged, though? You got to use this portrait while others could not. For over 3 years you got to use a skin that wasn't available for others. It is only now that this also becoming available for others again, and again for only a limited time (I assume) so in future there will be people who own the skin and people who don't.
I do understand that people that already own the skin feel like others are getting something for free here while they are not, but I think they are forgetting that they had something for years which others could not optain but maybe really wanted. As it was stated before in this thread blizz apparently never claimed that Tyrande never came back(I never checked that though, only relying on others), so one can't really argue that they lied or tricked people and therefore should compensate with packs, a different version of a existing skin or whatever(maybe a little "I play this game longer than you" button to add to your side of the board? ^^)
On the other hand I would not have a problem if they gave you guys free packs, but we know how blizz feels about giving packs away for free… But that is another topic.
In conclusion I think that people who already own tyrande should try to remember that they had access to a cosmetic that others could not obtain, which is apparently really important for some people, for three years. That is a good thing you guys had. However things always change, the demand for tyrande was high and blizzard decided to give a lot of people what they want but could get before(for different reasons). So nowothers get to enjoy this too, which means that you might feel a little less exclusive about owning that portrait now, but on the other hand a lot of people will be really happy to be able to play with her in the future(like me :D)
btw, if it is time limited again ( I really don't know about this and don't think also) it might cause newer players to whine more which brings new situations on the table.
I don't think blizzard wants more people whines about tyrande anymore in future so they should do at least free for everyone in everytime this time which is also sounds ridiculous that the only available skin of the game is Lady Liadrin by playing WoW for 20 levels.
So, what is the anduin's meaning at the first place then ? Make Tyrande basic skin if you will give it away whoever joins the game.
Situation here is more ridiculous than I thought. It is horns of a dilemma. If you will give Tyrande any time to anyone, there is no meaning Anduin at all but if you won't give, people who doesn't own might whine in future again.
The effort was acknowledged, though? You got to use this portrait while others could not. For over 3 years you got to use a skin that wasn't available for others. It is only now that this also becoming available for others again, and again for only a limited time (I assume) so in future there will be people who own the skin and people who don't.
I do understand that people that already own the skin feel like others are getting something for free here while they are not, but I think they are forgetting that they had something for years which others could not optain but maybe really wanted. As it was stated before in this thread blizz apparently never claimed that Tyrande never came back(I never checked that though, only relying on others), so one can't really argue that they lied or tricked people and therefore should compensate with packs, a different version of a existing skin or whatever(maybe a little "I play this game longer than you" button to add to your side of the board? ^^)
On the other hand I would not have a problem if they gave you guys free packs, but we know how blizz feels about giving packs away for free… But that is another topic.
In conclusion I think that people who already own tyrande should try to remember that they had access to a cosmetic that others could not obtain, which is apparently really important for some people, for three years. That is a good thing you guys had. However things always change, the demand for tyrande was high and blizzard decided to give a lot of people what they want but could get before(for different reasons). So nowothers get to enjoy this too, which means that you might feel a little less exclusive about owning that portrait now, but on the other hand a lot of people will be really happy to be able to play with her in the future(like me :D)
The acknowledgement and reward being having had Tyrande as a timed exclusive is an interesting point, but it's a little bit arguable: it was not marketed as such. If their initial announcement was "get Tyrande now with Twitch Prime, or for free at a later date" then I am certain most of these arguments wouldn't even happen today, because people should have known what they were getting into and if they didn't read the fine print then it's their own fault so they really would not have room to complain about it. However, their only official statement at the time was that they were looking into making Tyrande available in other regions too, which let's face it could have meant anything.
The whole timed-exclusive thing actually has more merit than it seems though, because Tyrande was initially released in a time when there were only like a couple of alternate hero portraits total, so having it back then was 'worth' way more than it is right now when we are reaching 3-5 alternate portraits for every single hero. It's definitely a fair perspective.
I don't understand the complaint of not getting any compensation for this. We've known Tyrande would be returning for a long time now; your 'compensation' is having been able to use Tyrande for the years before other players could.
I got Tyrande during the Twitch Prime promotion, and have happily used her quite a lot since then. Now other players are finally able to use her, which is great. Nothing about this scenario means anything bad for me; I don't lose anything, all that happens is other people gain. There's no reason for me to gain anything. I already got the gain years ago.
With all my arguments in this thread so far, honestly I'm just starting to think that it's about the dopamine rush when getting free stuff. Most people get Tyrande for free, while users who already had Tyrande get nothing and are annoyed because of it, since they can't participate in this feelgood atmosphere of praising Blizzard for its love for the community.
Sure we could argue all day about how the initial promotion wasn't fair in the first place, or about Blizzard's manipulative psychological tactics in promotional marketing that make people feel like they're missing out by not participating, or how this whole Tyrande release is the easiest and most low-effort way for Team 5 to get in good graces with its community, since it's just making a previously scarce cosmetic freely available for everyone. But all these arguments ignore how giving away Sylvanas to Tyrande-owners would've most likely meant that none of these arguments would have taken place, at least from my perspective. Then again the cause of that could also be that the Tyrande-owners wouldn't have felt like they were brushed under the rug with this event in the first place, so it's all debatable.
At the end of the day, it's commendable to see it like you do no matter how you put it, and I joined this thread purely out of love for arguing since I fully realize no amount of discussion here will influence anything. But I don't think this debate will ever reach a satisfying conclusion, since ironically both sides accuse each other of being selfish and both have a reason to do so.
This deck gave me a good laugh. I would love to annoy the hell out of my opponent with hundreds of 1/1 birds. How competitive it will be is another matter entirely but the game is about having fun too! Which is exactly what is listed as.
[PSA: Free Arena Ticket] Descent of Dragons Launch
Just a reminder. 1 day to go!
Best answers (preferably spells) to wide boards?
Veranus + Explosive, Veranus + UtH, Veranus + your board. Tho i guess you want to build a Spell Hunter? Weak AOE is obviously the weakness for Hunter by design, so not many choices there. Wild Pyromancer is always an option too. Or just dont let it get that far in a first place.
Descent of Dragons Giveaway Results
Same here - 2nd place and was great to see so many people get involved :) Grats to the 1st place people
New Battlegrounds Cards and Card Nerfs are Missing
Yup, we're on it! We could add them manually, but Flux was rendering cards yesterday, so it would just be an extra work for nothing really. Wait a bit longer, we'll add them for sure ;-)
Garrosh are you ok?
Someone wanted unique looking hero skins, now you got a build-a-hero-skin simulator :D
That Guldan with a snake does look pretty awesome!
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
Battletag : Virdo#11439
Region : NA'
Trade : Yes, you go first!
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
A cop stops two cars for speeding. He greets the one and lets him ho. Then he gives you a fine.
From your point of view it is absolutely OK, because you should not take into consideration someones privilege.
Do you see the error in your view?
Best answers (preferably spells) to wide boards?
Explosive Trap and Deathstalker Rexxar for smaller, wide boards. Zephrys the Great for big boards, as clearing such boards is Hunter's weakness. Explosive Shotis a little too situational to run in your main deck.
Descent of Dragons Giveaway Results
awww, i really appreciate the second place reward, thanks to this great comunity!!
ALBATROSS!!!
Tastes like chicken...
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
not that one either.
another hint; it came in 2016.
ALBATROSS!!!
deck aims to shit their draw and make them draw useless 1-costs to have silly moments you don't wait a win-condition here.
Think that like a mill deck. You want to make your opponent fatigue to death. This deck wants to make opponent draw nothing useful but 1/1s. to make them mad.
Win condition is this.
Necrium Apothecary also can only bring Albatrosses because it is the only deathrattle minion so I don't think that you can't draw albatrosses.
ALBATROSS!!!
searched for a bit and yes I got it wrong but yeah that was pretty old and exclusive to the country for that time.
That's impossible to know if you are not interested tho. :D
ALBATROSS!!!
Ellek a good fit?
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
then probably Captain Greenskin, as he is looking for somebody to slay
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
I am already saying that I really gained something in this discussion. I am not pushing anything.
Also true that, not saying anything can't be lying. So Blizzard's not saying that Tyrande might come back can't make it exclusivity a lie.
I am %90 sure of that at first revealed, Tyrande was prime-exclusive after so much whines because people likes the skin so much Blizzard changed their mind and threw it in a pool as a weapon "if we lose consumers in some time, we can use it to bring back them."
Anyways, really tired of explaining stuff. I had opened the forum because of sharing my custom created expansion today while responding other answers but can't even complete to add explains and all the cards because of trying to explain myself and respond to this thread and I didn't have time to do so and a bit frustrated to discuss this long.
I might not respond anytime soon here.
For people I upset, sorry for that but know that you also upset me, I don't upset people unless they are attacking me
and for people who discussed it in healthy way, thanks all for your comments, I've learnt and gained something here, I hope you gained too but if you say "meh, you can't add me anything." That's also ok.
Descent of Dragons - Concept Art Spotlight
I would bet that was Blizzards request rather than artist. You can see he made 3 versions and in each Reno is startled. I guess they wanted it to look more lighthearted.
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
I actually read the whole post and I don't think that is an accurate representation of how it went down. I know you are obviously simplifieng and exaggerating to get your point across. However there was a fair share of arguments made, like how you weren't really tricked since it was never clearly said tyrande would never be available again, it was discussed if people who already own her should get compensation, people from both side gave different opinions and so on. Of course there are always people who insult and bring the children's cards game-argument, this is the internet after all. But I think there where a lot of points made in this thread, it seems that there are more people happy about tyrande coming back than people who feel cheated. Yet you are not alone, but you are the minority. If you think you can convince everyone to think like you and feel for you, then you will be disappointed. Most people mainly care about themselves and don't show empathy for strangers, especially if they are in different circumstances than they are and especially especially if they are some what anonymous on the internet. Don't keep pushing, you are fighting windmills here buddy.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
tribe is correct but sadly not this card too.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
somehow I think it's Southsea Deckhand, the riddle sounds like pirate-ish. on the other side: are pirates that smart?
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
btw, if it is time limited again ( I really don't know about this and don't think also) it might cause newer players to whine more which brings new situations on the table.
I don't think blizzard wants more people whines about tyrande anymore in future so they should do at least free for everyone in everytime this time which is also sounds ridiculous that the only available skin of the game is Lady Liadrin by playing WoW for 20 levels.
So, what is the anduin's meaning at the first place then ? Make Tyrande basic skin if you will give it away whoever joins the game.
Situation here is more ridiculous than I thought. It is horns of a dilemma. If you will give Tyrande any time to anyone, there is no meaning Anduin at all but if you won't give, people who doesn't own might whine in future again.
Hahah ! So funny it sounds.
Garrosh are you ok?
Garrosh just wants to do some smorcing, too, so he borrowed rexxars bow xD
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
The acknowledgement and reward being having had Tyrande as a timed exclusive is an interesting point, but it's a little bit arguable: it was not marketed as such. If their initial announcement was "get Tyrande now with Twitch Prime, or for free at a later date" then I am certain most of these arguments wouldn't even happen today, because people should have known what they were getting into and if they didn't read the fine print then it's their own fault so they really would not have room to complain about it. However, their only official statement at the time was that they were looking into making Tyrande available in other regions too, which let's face it could have meant anything.
The whole timed-exclusive thing actually has more merit than it seems though, because Tyrande was initially released in a time when there were only like a couple of alternate hero portraits total, so having it back then was 'worth' way more than it is right now when we are reaching 3-5 alternate portraits for every single hero. It's definitely a fair perspective.
With all my arguments in this thread so far, honestly I'm just starting to think that it's about the dopamine rush when getting free stuff. Most people get Tyrande for free, while users who already had Tyrande get nothing and are annoyed because of it, since they can't participate in this feelgood atmosphere of praising Blizzard for its love for the community.
Sure we could argue all day about how the initial promotion wasn't fair in the first place, or about Blizzard's manipulative psychological tactics in promotional marketing that make people feel like they're missing out by not participating, or how this whole Tyrande release is the easiest and most low-effort way for Team 5 to get in good graces with its community, since it's just making a previously scarce cosmetic freely available for everyone. But all these arguments ignore how giving away Sylvanas to Tyrande-owners would've most likely meant that none of these arguments would have taken place, at least from my perspective. Then again the cause of that could also be that the Tyrande-owners wouldn't have felt like they were brushed under the rug with this event in the first place, so it's all debatable.
At the end of the day, it's commendable to see it like you do no matter how you put it, and I joined this thread purely out of love for arguing since I fully realize no amount of discussion here will influence anything. But I don't think this debate will ever reach a satisfying conclusion, since ironically both sides accuse each other of being selfish and both have a reason to do so.
ALBATROSS!!!
Does it come with any Wafers?
This deck gave me a good laugh. I would love to annoy the hell out of my opponent with hundreds of 1/1 birds. How competitive it will be is another matter entirely but the game is about having fun too! Which is exactly what is listed as.
ALBATROSS!!!
My very first thought on seeing the title was that classic sketch, you aren't alone :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrqW_BZu5Xk