Very very hard to invoke twice before turn 4. But even in a tempo deck, a 3/6 on 4 isn't something to complain about. Otherwise if you want the full effect, this will most likely drop on 6. I'm surprised there wasn't 1 more neutral Invoke card that was less than 4 mana.
If you spent money on it, you would have anyway, even if they told you it would have been freeware in some years time.
You wanted it, you bought it. That's it.
Exclusiveness is never eternal.
And the value of cosmetics is just that which you give them. Because nobody cares of the cosmetics of their opponent.
That's a personal thought and taste which I can't argue.
I like something special, in-games mostly and when I saw them on another in the game, I think like "hey, a collector like me, how cool ! " and Tyrande won't be rare anymore. That's sad for me.
Anyway, I have expressed/explained myself enough, I presume.
I am playing the game also and don't mind those system because they stated that those contents will come back with every event. It is not same with Tyrande situation. They didn't say there will be more offers like that. All of the overwatch players knew that they will come available again.
There is nothing wrong with my ability. You are just keep wearing "I'm a sensitive guy" suit and keep acting like a fan-boy. Maybe you are not a fanboy I don't know you but that's truth that you are acting like one.
There is a mistake from a company, wrong advertisement etc. and you keep defending it. There might be only two reasons for that, being a fan-boy or strained sensivity like how people do for animal-rights.
They are not irrelevant btw; how you act against for all of those "irrelevant examples" shows how your personality shapes around them. Strained sensivities, histrionics, fear of social exclusion, social influence or concerns about not being approved, all is same how much you say that they are irrelevant from this thread.
It is exactly the same with Tyrande's situation because they never mentioned that Tyrande would be a Twitch prime exclusive deal. You assumed she would be. That is entirely on you. You can blame me for that. You can blame Blizzard for that. You can blame the entire goddamn world for that. But you are the one who interpreted it the way you did. And now you're upset because of it. Wonderful.
Wrong advertisement my ass. You have not once shown even the slightest shred of evidence that proves they said Tyrande would be a one time only deal.
I am not defending Blizzard, because there is nothing to defend. You're literally arguing with your own assumptions.
I've gone ahead and ignored all the pointless drivel you, again, put in your post. If your next reply contains more of this pretentious psychologist analysis I will no longer respond, because you're far too deluded at that point.
Friendly advice: give this discussion a rest. If a petty cosmetic truly upsets you this much then please heed KANSAS' advice and take a break to sort yourself out.
I mean at this point this thread has no point anymore. You obviously just wanna argue your point despite the fact almost everybody disagrees with you.
point is learning from my mistakes. If you still want to buy limited-time content just because they are limited-time, go buy them but don't cry amywhere anymore after you saw this thread.
I left buying those, and suggesting you to not buy here. At least for Hearthstone. The point of this thread is that.
Are You guys always trying to win in threads ? There is nothing to win. I have shared my experiences and how I thought, if you learn from here, it will be for your own goodness, if you don't, it is your loss.
There is nothing to win here and I'm not trying to win some shitty discussions. I've replied as much as possible just because to make you understand my point, not for winning discussions.
Without doing some combos with deathrattle shenanigans, this is just a Faceless Manipulator that can come out sooner, is delayed through deathrattle, and can be silenced. Not sure if it will be playable, but would be cool if it found a home.
Powerful and situational enough battlecry that you don't even need to upgrade him through Invoke completely. I great control and value tool for Priest.
You meant "But why could a 0 mana minion used to keep his buff when being devolved?" I know right - Glad they are fixing it
Oh, you re right, i forgot about this thing, actually i m playing a lot on even shaman in wild and sometimes i can't devolve some random murloc or mech, but it s so rare scenario, but i m ok with it. It's strange addition anyway. looks like someone in test office couldn't devolve some target dummy:D Or idk.
Oh my gosh everybody just chill it is only a cosmetic and it means absolutely nothing.
Write a post as a long as you want but you cannot ignore the simple fact that the skin means nothing, I really don't see any reason for you to be this angry as to quit Hearthstone entirely, simply because blizzard didn't give you something special for having started playing the game sooner.
The fact that; The most-loved ones of you, your family, means nothing to me.
Things mean nothing to someone might be everything for anothers.
Brief and to the point.
If this skin means everything to you then you need to get out more and find a boyfriend/girlfriend, get a hobby/job, and stop worrying about what you look like in a video game
You can't even understand what you read and the "exampling" really. Yeah The most important part of my life is a 32-kb Gif. Nothing to talk with you (edit:in this thread ofc, lol, I don't strike an attitude just because of we couldn't agree here).
I just want to throw out there that Blizzard has explicitly said, many times, that Tyrande would be available again. That's why Tyrande returning was such a big announcement, because they were finally making good on their promise.
She has never been a Twitch exclusive; at best she was a timed exclusive for Twitch, and there was no reason to believe otherwise.
This seals it then. Blizzard wasn’t on the wrong here, @Almaniarra. You, as the buyer, have no one to blame but yourself.
I remember it like Blizzard said that after so much people whines about it so it was a limited-time content at first. I didn't care just because I already decided to not buy hearthstone related content anymore after Ragnaros card back case.
So, it didn't change my mind, I will continue to not buy Hearthstone related content.
But yeah, I won't buy anything time-limited from any other company too just because of this fucking situation. There is no guaranteed stuff in world really, at least, I have learnt from my mistakes.
Sidenote: I am already blaming myself but discussing here only blizzard's part. I know I have also been mistaken but blizzard is mistaken too.
it surely is a letdown when you pay for something and later on everyone gets it for free.
To be fair no one paid for Tyrande: it was a gift included in Amazon Prime, so if you happened to have it (and let's be honest: you don't have Amazon Prime for a HS skin) then you could have claimed it. Moreover, even if you suggest to make her available in the same conditions, now you can have a free month of Prime, so it's just easier to give her away for free.
But I really want to make this clear: Tyrande was a gift limited to some countries and no one directly paid for her.
On the other hand (just so you get the situation I'll use the example you wrote in your comment), Lazul was a skin tied with an 80 $ bundle which was limited in time, so giving her away for free would be unfair; but I wouldn't see anything wrong if they just put her in the new store for the usual price, maybe after a few expansions though
1) I really can't understand how you can't understand those are same.
2) You can't obtain if you don't have a credit card and free-trial membership.
3) Also, I know other guys in my friendlist who lives in those countries and normally don't use Twitch prime but got it just because of Tyrande skin.
4) I am just saying that the way how Blizzard did is wrong for people who obtained this skin before. Make it available to all but make its hero power non-golden for example, that's a way.
5) There are so much ways to make it available as making people who owns the skin happy but Blizzard did this in wrong way again.
1) I can't understand it because they're not the same. We can say that you even cheated ("I just used a VPN and fake address to be able to obtain Tyrande") and it costed you because you wanted that skin so much, but I'm not here to talk about people's behaviors, whether correct or not. Let's just talk about the facts. This event came in a certain time and (again, unless you want to do some shady shit) in certain places: in order to get Tyrande, you had to be an HS player (for example, Twitch Prime gives you so many gifts for games I couldn't care less), you had to live in a certain country and you had to have Amazon Prime (or being in a free trial). This is nothing but a discriminatory promotion (yeah, it's a word that doesn't fit this subject at all, but I hope you got the point), which penalized players, let's say, from Greece that were playing the game at the time and even had a Prime sub. It was clear that who thought this event didn't figure out Tyrande would have got so much success. That's why, when making a promotion, now Blizz tends to lock skins behind a paywall, so that no one will claim them afterwards (see the Thunder King).
On the other hand, Lazul (with Rastakhan, Neltharion, Elise and so on) are obtainable only if you pay loads of money: there's no other way around, since they're not part of a promotion with a partner. You want them? Take your wallet and give it to Blizz. In this case you spent your money for that sole purpose and so people shouldn't get those skins for free. Will they return in the future? Maybe, but only behind a paywall, which is how things should be.
Tyrande being a gift coming from a partnership means that, with her, you even got a month of Amazon Prime (which was the ultimate goal of the promotion after all). If you paid for something that even at that time could have been free just because you wanted it no matter what (shady shit) then it's normal that now you're butthurt. I'd be too. But that's not Blizzard's fault.
2) we are almost in 2020, c'mon man do you really want to hit me with that argument? You don't have access to a credit card (yours, your parents',...) but you can play HS? C'mon maaaan
3) People doing shady things doesn't make them less shady.
4) So you want like different skins for a single skin? Did I get it right? Cause if it's so it's fucking dumb.
5) Does that mean that Blizz should make people that will obtain the skin in one or two days less happy just to make those who got it before happier? It's a fucking GIF in a game bro, calm down. You want to be exclusive at other people's sake, which I have to say is pretty sad, if not pathetic.
You really are still saying "it is a fucking gif c'mon man".
and no, I don't want different skins for a single skin. Different versions doesn't mean seperate ones. I have 1 green tyrande for example, you have 1 blue tyrande, I don't own blue, you don't own green. Like that. Simple.
it's 2020 or 2150, it doesn't matter. You can't buy payable features without it. Think about a kid like 14 years old. He doesn't have credit card and his parents don't let him use it. Could he buy that skin? No. That's simple too.
It is same with any other pre-order skins. IF they can give other limited-time content, It is not guaranteed that they will others too. What I'm saying here and point it out here is this. So, Let's speak after if they gave any of the pre-order skins freely and say that "it's ok". Just because of this, I stop paying to hearthstone content because it is not guaranteed that they won't give for free the content what I've paid for and opened a thread to express my concerns and warn people. It is that simple too. Simple. NOT COMPLEX.
You are still arguing that as calm down, it is a fucking gif, shady shit, people can obtain etc. etc. etc.
It is not the most important part of my life just because we are arguing this in this forum and spent time to do so. We are defending our thoughts here so it might seem so important to you. I don't care. I just wanted to warn people about buying limited-time contents of Hearthstone and how it is not guaranteed and they are just simply trying to trick you as they are limited and if you want to buy packs, go buy them but don't pay for limited-time only contents.
If you don't want to learn from my mistakes and experience it by yourself, go on, do it. I am not holding you. It was just for your own goodness. If you don't need it, Don't ever write here. Why do you even care ? when Blizzard gave Lazul, Rastakhan, Thunder King, Deathwing, Mecha-Jaraxxus or any skins that you bought, You will already understand me. There is nothing to say. You guys are simply willingly refuse.
I just want to throw out there that Blizzard has explicitly said, many times, that Tyrande would be available again. That's why Tyrande returning was such a big announcement, because they were finally making good on their promise.
She has never been a Twitch exclusive; at best she was a timed exclusive for Twitch, and there was no reason to believe otherwise.
This seals it then. Blizzard wasn’t on the wrong here, @Almaniarra. You, as the buyer, have no one to blame but yourself.
Oh my gosh everybody just chill it is only a cosmetic and it means absolutely nothing.
Write a post as a long as you want but you cannot ignore the simple fact that the skin means nothing, I really don't see any reason for you to be this angry as to quit Hearthstone entirely, simply because blizzard didn't give you something special for having started playing the game sooner.
The fact that; The most-loved ones of you, your family, means nothing to me.
Things mean nothing to someone might be everything for anothers.
Brief and to the point.
If this skin means everything to you then you need to get out more and find a boyfriend/girlfriend, get a hobby/job, and stop worrying about what you look like in a video game
Oh my gosh everybody just chill it is only a cosmetic and it means absolutely nothing.
Write a post as a long as you want but you cannot ignore the simple fact that the skin means nothing, I really don't see any reason for you to be this angry as to quit Hearthstone entirely, simply because blizzard didn't give you something special for having started playing the game sooner.
The fact that; The most-loved ones of you, your family, means nothing to me.
Things mean nothing to someone might be everything for anothers.
Envoy of Lazul
Worse Curious Glimmerroot. Some will play this, others will choose not to.
Fate Weaver
Very very hard to invoke twice before turn 4. But even in a tempo deck, a 3/6 on 4 isn't something to complain about. Otherwise if you want the full effect, this will most likely drop on 6. I'm surprised there wasn't 1 more neutral Invoke card that was less than 4 mana.
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
Except... Hearthstone is a collectable card game. It is design to itch the brain of user of (as pokemon says) "Collect them all"
And then they give something rare to everyone for free....
This is just against the human nature of collectors. You cannot blame them for not being happy.
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
That's a personal thought and taste which I can't argue.
I like something special, in-games mostly and when I saw them on another in the game, I think like "hey, a collector like me, how cool ! " and Tyrande won't be rare anymore. That's sad for me.
Anyway, I have expressed/explained myself enough, I presume.
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
It is exactly the same with Tyrande's situation because they never mentioned that Tyrande would be a Twitch prime exclusive deal. You assumed she would be. That is entirely on you. You can blame me for that. You can blame Blizzard for that. You can blame the entire goddamn world for that. But you are the one who interpreted it the way you did. And now you're upset because of it. Wonderful.
Wrong advertisement my ass. You have not once shown even the slightest shred of evidence that proves they said Tyrande would be a one time only deal.
I am not defending Blizzard, because there is nothing to defend. You're literally arguing with your own assumptions.
I've gone ahead and ignored all the pointless drivel you, again, put in your post. If your next reply contains more of this pretentious psychologist analysis I will no longer respond, because you're far too deluded at that point.
Friendly advice: give this discussion a rest. If a petty cosmetic truly upsets you this much then please heed KANSAS' advice and take a break to sort yourself out.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Archmage Antonidas ?
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
Well i do understand the point in the OP.
But at the end of the day, it's just cosmetics.
If you spent money on it, you would have anyway, even if they told you it would have been freeware in some years time.
You wanted it, you bought it. That's it.
Exclusiveness is never eternal.
And the value of cosmetics is just that which you give them. Because nobody cares of the cosmetics of their opponent.
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
point is learning from my mistakes. If you still want to buy limited-time content just because they are limited-time, go buy them but don't cry amywhere anymore after you saw this thread.
I left buying those, and suggesting you to not buy here. At least for Hearthstone. The point of this thread is that.
Are You guys always trying to win in threads ? There is nothing to win. I have shared my experiences and how I thought, if you learn from here, it will be for your own goodness, if you don't, it is your loss.
There is nothing to win here and I'm not trying to win some shitty discussions. I've replied as much as possible just because to make you understand my point, not for winning discussions.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
I have spells to spare, they tend to linger about,
If you don’t want a spell, then you shouldn't send me out,
I believe in equality, everyone gets the same,
But if you are like most you won't play me, what a shame.
Mindflayer Kaahrj
I like your Ragnaros, I think I will copy him.
Without doing some combos with deathrattle shenanigans, this is just a Faceless Manipulator that can come out sooner, is delayed through deathrattle, and can be silenced. Not sure if it will be playable, but would be cool if it found a home.
Descent of Dragons Giveaway Results
Huh? I was sure I commented on every card as well.. Turns out I missed some early ones it seem oh well.
Congrats to the winners.
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
I mean at this point this thread has no point anymore. You obviously just wanna argue your point despite the fact almost everybody disagrees with you.
Galakrond, the Unspeakable
Powerful and situational enough battlecry that you don't even need to upgrade him through Invoke completely. I great control and value tool for Priest.
Murozond the Infinite
This has some ridiculous potential. Awesome tool for Control Priest.
And this will making constant appearances in Trollden videos.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
damn, was it that easy ?
gratz ! your turn.
Evolve Mechanics Updated In Descent Of Dragons Patch
Oh, you re right, i forgot about this thing, actually i m playing a lot on even shaman in wild and sometimes i can't devolve some random murloc or mech, but it s so rare scenario, but i m ok with it. It's strange addition anyway. looks like someone in test office couldn't devolve some target dummy:D Or idk.
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
You can't even understand what you read and the "exampling" really. Yeah The most important part of my life is a 32-kb Gif. Nothing to talk with you (edit:in this thread ofc, lol, I don't strike an attitude just because of we couldn't agree here).
I remember it like Blizzard said that after so much people whines about it so it was a limited-time content at first. I didn't care just because I already decided to not buy hearthstone related content anymore after Ragnaros card back case.
So, it didn't change my mind, I will continue to not buy Hearthstone related content.
But yeah, I won't buy anything time-limited from any other company too just because of this fucking situation. There is no guaranteed stuff in world really, at least, I have learnt from my mistakes.
Sidenote: I am already blaming myself but discussing here only blizzard's part. I know I have also been mistaken but blizzard is mistaken too.
Descent of Dragons Giveaway Results
Congrats guys! Send me some of your luck on the tenth while I open my packs : I'm going to need it! :)
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
You really are still saying "it is a fucking gif c'mon man".
and no, I don't want different skins for a single skin. Different versions doesn't mean seperate ones. I have 1 green tyrande for example, you have 1 blue tyrande, I don't own blue, you don't own green. Like that. Simple.
it's 2020 or 2150, it doesn't matter. You can't buy payable features without it. Think about a kid like 14 years old. He doesn't have credit card and his parents don't let him use it. Could he buy that skin? No. That's simple too.
It is same with any other pre-order skins. IF they can give other limited-time content, It is not guaranteed that they will others too. What I'm saying here and point it out here is this. So, Let's speak after if they gave any of the pre-order skins freely and say that "it's ok". Just because of this, I stop paying to hearthstone content because it is not guaranteed that they won't give for free the content what I've paid for and opened a thread to express my concerns and warn people. It is that simple too. Simple. NOT COMPLEX.
You are still arguing that as calm down, it is a fucking gif, shady shit, people can obtain etc. etc. etc.
It is not the most important part of my life just because we are arguing this in this forum and spent time to do so. We are defending our thoughts here so it might seem so important to you. I don't care. I just wanted to warn people about buying limited-time contents of Hearthstone and how it is not guaranteed and they are just simply trying to trick you as they are limited and if you want to buy packs, go buy them but don't pay for limited-time only contents.
If you don't want to learn from my mistakes and experience it by yourself, go on, do it. I am not holding you. It was just for your own goodness. If you don't need it, Don't ever write here. Why do you even care ? when Blizzard gave Lazul, Rastakhan, Thunder King, Deathwing, Mecha-Jaraxxus or any skins that you bought, You will already understand me. There is nothing to say. You guys are simply willingly refuse.
Descent of Dragons Giveaway Results
I'm sorry I didn't win, but I did have fun talking about cards with folks
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
This seals it then. Blizzard wasn’t on the wrong here, @Almaniarra. You, as the buyer, have no one to blame but yourself.
Descent of Dragons Giveaway Results
It was great to see lots of new faces talking about the cards!
I definitely want to do something like this again next reveal season and hopefully, we can do it with the help of Blizzard sponsored prizing.
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
If this skin means everything to you then you need to get out more and find a boyfriend/girlfriend, get a hobby/job, and stop worrying about what you look like in a video game
About Tyrande's coming back and The value Blizzard gives older players( WARNING: SALT THREAD ! )
The fact that; The most-loved ones of you, your family, means nothing to me.
Things mean nothing to someone might be everything for anothers.
Brief and to the point.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Lightforged Crusader