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Fair enough, warning people against buying Blizzard’s content is a valid reason, especially if they did lie on the marketing. I still think there’s no positive side in changing the skin because of it; the way I see it, the argument you’re making is still valid if the HP wasn’t golden. You’re still getting tricked into spending money for practically the same product.

I agree that the “limited time” argument makes sense here, since the advertising of a limited time offer would possibly persuade you to buy something you maybe wouldn’t have bought immediately. But it still doesn’t make sense on the card back example you gave at the start of the thread.

Oh well, I tried. Congratulations to all the winners, may your openings be blessed with good fortune (and no neutral epics, because all of those are terrible)

At least I have confirmation that I did in fact comment on every single card, I was actually worried I forgot one.

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1. Subjective. OP wants to show his veterancy, Blizzard provided it. OP is still complaining.

2. #1

3. And not everyone wants to abuse a flawed system or were even aware of that flaw. This time everyone can obtain it legitimately but of course there's a bunch of entitled people who need to feel superior to others with a bloody cosmetic.

Btw, Blizzard can do small change by switching (mirroring) Tyrande. Old account will have blue one and all accounts will have green one. Everyone is happy.

Personally I don't care about Card backs and héroes coming back. Already has Rag Cars Back and the Xmas one. But I am happy other people can get it. Also I wouldnt be mad If the new shop included all héroes. They are all fun and You also get (for example with deathwing) a 100 packs with them, so it is more than worth it. It could ve considered "timed exclusivity"

I am one of the People who missed Tyrande, but... If it was Sir Anoyo, Lunara, Kadghar (who was only available through Apple devices), the rogue hero from Year of the mammoth, Mecha Jaraxxus, Etc. It would be fine un My book.

Yes, even If handing them for free. Also not a fan of preorder bonuses. I have lots of them (one being Batllefront 2 for example) and wouldnt mind If You could unlock the skins for 40.000 credits, while the Game is also cheaper now. I bought the Game at 80 dollars, because I wanted it, and I spent much more time with it, that people who got it on sale later. Also did not have to pay to get that extra thing. 

Dragon Ball Fighterz also sold their preorder bonus as a cheap dlc after launch and You get exactly the same. You just have to pay a bit more.

Trying to feel exclusive ir better, by, getting a better/different version of something, and generating exclusivity in some pixels is a practice I hate and Would never apply in my work. And even If I used time exclusivity I would just give it later without restrictions.

Edit: I fought My spanish Google Keyboard all the way through this text. So, You might find some strange Caps and Punctuation on it. Also some Bad written words that mean something un spanish, si Google changed them.

Congrats to all the winners!

Congrats to all winners! Though my luck may not have shone here, at least I had good luck on the few packs I did have (first two packs pulled Bandersmosh and Golden [Hearthstone Card (Murozond, the Infinite) Not Found]

Almost everyone was using Keleseth, so in the mirror, the victory was just a coin toss to who draws keleseth first. That's terrible design.

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3. And not everyone wants to abuse a flawed system or were even aware of that flaw. This time everyone can obtain it legitimately but of course there's a bunch of entitled people who need to feel superior to others with a bloody cosmetic.

By "entitled people" you mean those, who want limited time cosmetics from the past just because they are entitled to have them, right?

Bandersmosh ?

Congrats all !

I hope you got tons of Legendaries !

Yay, I am Draconically Dedicated from now on ! :)

Loved the competition. Hated not winning  ;)

Congratulations to the winners!

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I said something similar to your opinion about the return of the Rag. card back and I'll say it again here: there is absolutely nothing special about the people who already own the Tyrande hero. There was no true effort involved in obtaining it. You just signed up for Twitch prime and, if from one of the regions where she was not available, lied about where you were. I guess you also linked your Twitch and Blizzard accounts. That's all you had to do.

Having the Tyrande hero means nothing other than that you happened to have been playing HS during the time she was available and were aware of the few small steps you had to take to get her. In my mind that is not something that gives you bragging rights or any reason to want other players to be unable to use her or have some superficial tweak as though the original is more special in some way.

Now if Blizz were to hand out golden heroes or 1000 win portraits to everyone, or card backs that actually took a bit to effort to earn e.g. through heroic single player content or competitive play, then yes I'd take issue with that. But those take time and genuine effort, not 2 minutes and a few jumps between different websites.

It's about that already. I don't normally care for skins.

It's not about people who will obtain the skin. I've just felt tricked to buy Twitch/Amazon Prime. It would be same if now they decide to give King Rastakhan to everyone for free because I don't buy normally pre-orders. I like more to buy packs if I really need packs and I've just pre-ordered Rastakhan's Rumble just because of the skin.

People never understand or even are never trying to understand this complaints are not about them. I decided not to buy any of the hearthstone content anymore because of this shitty move of blizzard because I just knew that in Ragnaros card back times because it was the first move that I don't like and I've said under that article it is not guaranteed that they won't give other time-limited contents anymore and Tyrande skin is proof of that. I've ended up right at the end of the day.

I still didn't buy any of the pre-orders since that time and won't buy any in-game content with real money anymore. I've just tricked by blizzard and wanted to open a thread to express my feelings to warn people who plans to buy limited-time in-game content from blizzard about they are not limited anymore.

It is same with how you will feel tricked if blizzard gives 1000-win portraits and heroic adventures to everyone. At the Ragnaros card back times, people defended blizzard by saying the exact same thing as you by saying "you don't spend any effort to gain that cardback". Now you are using this argument to defend this situation here. How ironic.

I feel tricked by blizzard and other players are personalizing the situation here. I don't care who you are or what you will obtain. I care only that I'm tricked by blizzard and won't buy any of the hearthstone content anymore. That's all. I will continue to play the game but won't support the game. I will watch it lose consumers and die in time and I will try to persuade people to not buy hearthstone content anymore. At least I will make it for my family and friends.

I am not even adressing people who doesn't own Tyrande skin. Stop personalizing the situation.

Thing is, I don’t understand why are you mad at Blizzard.

Yes, you chose poorly when you decided to buy Tyrande. I get that - if I buy something that is later given out for free, I’ll feel stupid for buying it, and feel like I wasted my money for nothing.

But how is that Blizzard’s fault? They don’t owe you anything just because you made the decision to buy their skin. You could have an argument if they specifically marketed that the product wouldn’t be offered again/for free. But they didn’t say that, so the way I see it you only have your own judgment to blame.

I definitely get the desire to not buy their content anymore - it’s been shown to be an unwise decision. But I don’t think there’s anyone you should be angry at.

Finally a sane argument;

I think its Blizzard's fault because they advertised it as "Special offer for only Twitch/Amazon Prime" like how they are advertising pre-order skins as "pre-order exclusive.".

I've bought Prime just because of Tyrande so I think i have a reason to blame blizzard.

I've bought Rastakhan's Rumble pre-order just because of obtaining King Rastakhan. I will be tricked twice if they gave it or make it available to buy again for 10$ for example because normally I wouldn't buy that 40+$ pre-order but bought it because of the skin and if i didn't buy that skin with pre-order I would be able to buy it with less money. (that's arguable that I have also got packs but I didn't need those packs because I had enough golds to buy it ah that's also arguable too that I have saved those golds for next expansion tho.)
 
anyways, I hope you got my point. I don't agree the argument; "it was your decision, blizzard is not responsible for this." I think that With me, Blizzard is also responsible for this by advertising it as an exclusive item and am thinking about it as I deserve a compensation or a difference between old tyrande skin and new one.

I get your point, but did Blizzard specify the offer won’t return afterwards? If they didn’t, your impression then doesn’t really justify you being mad at them now. They didn’t trick you. As the buyer, it was your call, and therefore your responsibility.

If they did, I still don’t think they should change the product to maintain exclusivity, because that would be unfair towards the people who buy the skin. Other people shouldn’t be negatively affected because Blizzard tricked you. The fact that you didn’t actually pay only for Tyrande, but for another benefit makes it a difficult situation for them: Blizzard can’t just refund every person that claims they only bought Twitch Prime because of Tyrande. It would mean they lied in their marketing though, so they would be on the wrong here.

 

Also, I think it’s worth mentioning your argument about “older players” has no place here. We’re talking about paid vs. free, so the argument you’re making now is completely illogical in the card back situation, for instance.

Older player argument was there because of its limited time. You couldn't own that skin because it was available in past. That's because of that, how people can't buy Lazul now if they starts to play today for example.

I remember how they state that the offer is exclusive and time-limited and know that Blizzard can't refund primes, That's why I am saying "same Tyrande skins with a little difference" like golden hero power or non-animated like how they did for Elite Tauren Chieftain and SN1P-SN4P.

I am already just saying they lied in marketing so I have been sided against them to not buy any Hearthstone-related content anymore. That's all I can do so I am doing this + I wanted to warn people with my experience and express how I thought. There's no meaning to say here "People can also obtain that skin.". It is not my business.

I can't change people's thoughts, I know that but still can try to warn people to not make same mistakes with me. So, if you need packs, go buy those pre-orders but don't buy any exclusive skins because blizzard lies about them. The aim of this thread is just this. If you still want to buy, I can't do anything but know that you might be tricked like me. If you don't care, then don't care; but I care this. My personality doesn't let it go.

It might be just a fucking silly skin for anyone. That's also valid for me. It's just a fucking silly skin. I only care how I have been tricked and wanted to warn people That's all.

I have fond menories of dropping Spikeridged Steed onto a hexed Frog, and when the shaman tried to devolve away the buff, they realized their mistake and conceded. RIP

Hopefully it will be nerfed pretty quickly once DoD drops. Sadly they aren't going to address the mechanic problem. They'll only nerf Mogu. Then next year, they'll print more problematic cards. Hopefully eventually their hand will be forced. 

Meh. Won't see play

SOLID! Will see play

This might cause some problems in Wild. Odd Paladin doesn't need more ways to buff their board. Yet here we are...

Mech pally has a new toy. Wild is going to hate this card. Isn't going to have an effect in Standard. 

lol same, I thought "yes, this dumb mechanic will finally adressed"

but I guess they still want Mogu to steamroll games at turn 3.

I think this has potential to be the best sidequest. 

It can force your opponent in a situation where they have to decide between trading and clearing your board, or going face to prevent this from completing. Don't underestimate a card that can cause your opponent to make a bad play. 

2 powerful cards to force an archetype. Maybe if more support is printed next year. But doubt this will be viable currently.