And now no one would ever play thekal, is that right? No.
There were already counters to the fringe fringe deck of infinite armor druid or shaman in wild. This card is just them caving to the community begging them for it for years without even thinking about what it would do to the game. It's a common card that makes a legendary card game losing to play against. That enough is to show you how little thought they put into this since it screws with the games bottom line.
It will see play if there's a control deck with a limited damage finisher (for example Highlander Mage with Dragoncaller, Alex, Pyro and Fireball) if Warrior (or any class that can get a sizeable stack of armor, we have yet to see most of Druid's cards) becomes popular.
This is good because it finally removes the "this control deck could work, but it can't kill Warrior through 30 armor so it's useless" stereotype.
Now it's far more realistic to play something like Dragon Control Paladin with a Holywrath combo tagged on as a finisher (aka only 25 damage, no more, no less)
Hell, even something silly like Malylock is possible again.
Armor is no longer a "just builld it up over the game for an easy win" mechanic, but rather a ressource that you can use to take less damage from weapon trades or use it with care as not to overcommit into PLatebreaker
Great neutral card. There's a lot of useful 1 mana spells in every class. The obvious choice being Mage. Being a Dragon it may find home in Dragon decks too.
but...nobody plays Thekal. This is a counter to armor stacking strategies and nothing else. Nobody's gonna run this on the off chance that some lunatic runs Thekal in his Holy Wrath Paladin
Also, armor is the most overpowered mechanic in the game because it has no cap and previously had no counter, so any lategame deck with access to armor generation could jjust very easily grind out opponents with ease.
Not to mention it's also a way to get rid of Infinite Armor Druid in Wild without having to nerf some innocent combo piece
Platebreaker is certainly a surprise, and yes it looks like a hard counter to control Warrior and Druid archetypes, but it's not necessarily overpowered.
First, you would never run more than one of these because they're only useful against two classes*. Second, because this is worse than vanilla against most classes, you'd need to see a lot of control-style Warrior and Druid decks on the ladder before teching it in (according to Vicious Syndicate's last standard report, together they're probably around 13% of the ladder, and Warrior is nowhere near the top tier of decks despite its armor). Finally, you'd need to see armor as the major reason you're losing against Warrior and Druids on the ladder. As noted, Control Warrior isn't strong right now, and Quest Druid's access to armor doesn't really stave off hyper aggressive decks today.
Honestly, I think this is a card that, if it were in standard today, would see no play at all. The only way that changes is if Control Druid, Control Warrior, and Thekal Paladin all become major ladder contenders, which seems unlikely. In either case, this card seems like it was printed to bully some of the degenerate strategies in wild, and will be fine in standard.
* Technically Paladin and Mage can both generate armor (with High Priest Thekal and Ice Barrier respectively), but the uses are narrow. This definitely feels bad for High Priest Thekal, but Paladin has enough healing that he may still be worth playing for the games when Platebreaker isn't teched in.
So there it is. The card I was waiting for way back, but realised how stupid it was when High Priest Thekal was printed. At least it’s a counter to endless warrior or druid armor.
The power level of this expansion is too damn high!!
A deck like shrivallah paladin is already looking very strong versus all the dragon decks that don't pressure the opponent and just generate tons of value.
Just when i was thinking that maybe warriors will gain too much armor (there are the dragon that gives 5 armor, the breath that gives 5 armor and all the other armor gain cards that warriors already played) for shrivallah paladin to reliable win versus dragon warrior i see this in the main page.
If dragon warrior become a thing, shirvallah paladins will put 1 of this in their decks and still win all of the slowest matchup.
I think this card will be played only in combo decks (the ones that does damage obviously, not the mecha'thun ones for example) only if a deck in the meta is gaining too much armor and goes out of reach
I wouldn't normally comment to correct someone's spelling, but I feel I should interject to note the name is Violet Hold. Entirely because Violate hold is a different and significantly less PG place.
EVIL Quartermaster
a good lackey generator
Cobalt Spellkin
would it be able to get the side quests?
New Druid Spell - Breath of Dreams
One for the Even Dragon Druid. :)
Kripparrian Hosting the Final Card Reveal Stream for Descent of Dragons
So, will the giveaway end before or after the stream? - Because it will be pretty hard to come up withlike 60 quality comments in a short time.
Bronze Explorer
a cheap dragon generator
New Card Reveal - Platebreaker (ARMOR DESTRUCTION)
And now no one would ever play thekal, is that right? No.
There were already counters to the fringe fringe deck of infinite armor druid or shaman in wild. This card is just them caving to the community begging them for it for years without even thinking about what it would do to the game. It's a common card that makes a legendary card game losing to play against. That enough is to show you how little thought they put into this since it screws with the games bottom line.
New Neutral Minion - Platebreaker (Armor Destruction)
And they finally did it....We have waited for this tech card for ages...actually this should be a classic card.
Those who complaining about this card are probably warrior or druid players....stop whining guys...it's like
a weapon removal any decent deck should have one.
New Druid Minion - Ysera, Unleashed
Druid has the draw to make this work, but too RNG to be ladder-viable. A good meme card - golden craft.
New Card Reveal - Platebreaker (ARMOR DESTRUCTION)
It will see play if there's a control deck with a limited damage finisher (for example Highlander Mage with Dragoncaller, Alex, Pyro and Fireball) if Warrior (or any class that can get a sizeable stack of armor, we have yet to see most of Druid's cards) becomes popular.
This is good because it finally removes the "this control deck could work, but it can't kill Warrior through 30 armor so it's useless" stereotype.
Now it's far more realistic to play something like Dragon Control Paladin with a Holywrath combo tagged on as a finisher (aka only 25 damage, no more, no less)
Hell, even something silly like Malylock is possible again.
Armor is no longer a "just builld it up over the game for an easy win" mechanic, but rather a ressource that you can use to take less damage from weapon trades or use it with care as not to overcommit into PLatebreaker
Kripparrian Hosting the Final Card Reveal Stream for Descent of Dragons
Looking forward to this!
Bronze Explorer
because every explorer got a key word
Chronobreaker
seems really strong
New Hunter Weapon - Stormhammer
Should be a shaman card. :( Potentially really ood in dragon decks, obviously.
Mindflayer Kaahrj
it really depends on your enemy playing card that fit your game plan or having deathrattle minions
Stormhammer
its a good weapon but hunter is a weak class with dragons
Cobalt Spellkin
Great neutral card. There's a lot of useful 1 mana spells in every class. The obvious choice being Mage. Being a Dragon it may find home in Dragon decks too.
Also pretty good in arena.
New Card Reveal - Platebreaker (ARMOR DESTRUCTION)
Nah.
It just means that Weapons will get better because Warrior is better off using armor as a ressource instead of a shield.
Not to mention noone's going to play this unless Control WArrior is top tier.
Kripparrian Hosting the Final Card Reveal Stream for Descent of Dragons
It should have been like "Kripparian, Dean Ayala and Kibler"
Yes, I don't like that Chris guy. Kripp and Kibler are already like Blizzard employees, They don't be askew if they both will be in the stream.
New Card Reveal - Platebreaker (ARMOR DESTRUCTION)
but...nobody plays Thekal. This is a counter to armor stacking strategies and nothing else. Nobody's gonna run this on the off chance that some lunatic runs Thekal in his Holy Wrath Paladin
Also, armor is the most overpowered mechanic in the game because it has no cap and previously had no counter, so any lategame deck with access to armor generation could jjust very easily grind out opponents with ease.
Not to mention it's also a way to get rid of Infinite Armor Druid in Wild without having to nerf some innocent combo piece
New Neutral Minion - Platebreaker (Armor Destruction)
Platebreaker is certainly a surprise, and yes it looks like a hard counter to control Warrior and Druid archetypes, but it's not necessarily overpowered.
First, you would never run more than one of these because they're only useful against two classes*. Second, because this is worse than vanilla against most classes, you'd need to see a lot of control-style Warrior and Druid decks on the ladder before teching it in (according to Vicious Syndicate's last standard report, together they're probably around 13% of the ladder, and Warrior is nowhere near the top tier of decks despite its armor). Finally, you'd need to see armor as the major reason you're losing against Warrior and Druids on the ladder. As noted, Control Warrior isn't strong right now, and Quest Druid's access to armor doesn't really stave off hyper aggressive decks today.
Honestly, I think this is a card that, if it were in standard today, would see no play at all. The only way that changes is if Control Druid, Control Warrior, and Thekal Paladin all become major ladder contenders, which seems unlikely. In either case, this card seems like it was printed to bully some of the degenerate strategies in wild, and will be fine in standard.
* Technically Paladin and Mage can both generate armor (with High Priest Thekal and Ice Barrier respectively), but the uses are narrow. This definitely feels bad for High Priest Thekal, but Paladin has enough healing that he may still be worth playing for the games when Platebreaker isn't teched in.
New Neutral Minion - Platebreaker (Armor Destruction)
So there it is. The card I was waiting for way back, but realised how stupid it was when High Priest Thekal was printed. At least it’s a counter to endless warrior or druid armor.
The power level of this expansion is too damn high!!
EVIL Quartermaster
I think it's a pretty good card. It gives you a lackey and 3 armor. The question is in which kind of Warrior deck will find it's place.
New Neutral Minion - Platebreaker (Armor Destruction)
A deck like shrivallah paladin is already looking very strong versus all the dragon decks that don't pressure the opponent and just generate tons of value.
Just when i was thinking that maybe warriors will gain too much armor (there are the dragon that gives 5 armor, the breath that gives 5 armor and all the other armor gain cards that warriors already played) for shrivallah paladin to reliable win versus dragon warrior i see this in the main page.
If dragon warrior become a thing, shirvallah paladins will put 1 of this in their decks and still win all of the slowest matchup.
I think this card will be played only in combo decks (the ones that does damage obviously, not the mecha'thun ones for example) only if a deck in the meta is gaining too much armor and goes out of reach
Kripparrian Hosting the Final Card Reveal Stream for Descent of Dragons
It's weird. Really weird.
He is the only popular streamer i'm watching from time to time but I don't think he can be good at presenting decks tho.
But maybe he might do better; At least he won't miss the cards that would not revealed when the stream is on. At least I am expecting like that.
But I'm sure it will take hours to take turns in that stream. He usually uses his all time and I hate that when it has been made in reveal streams.
New Priest Reveals - Mindflayer Kaahrj & Chronobreaker
I wouldn't normally comment to correct someone's spelling, but I feel I should interject to note the name is Violet Hold. Entirely because Violate hold is a different and significantly less PG place.