Are we really in this place? Of all the potentially explosive combos in the game, the Divine Spirit/Inner Fire combo is one of the touchiest to pull off. First off, you need a high health minion to stick. Then you need your opponent to not have taunts. Then you need to actually have two divine spirits AND an inner fire or topsy turvy in hand.
If people are worried about DS/IF priests, put a couple reborn taunts in your deck. They can't combo through taunts, unless they have their single copy of silence in hand.
Summary: What beats the DS/IF combo? Board clears beat it; taunts beat it; trading into minions to drop their health or kill them beats it; and if they cannot do the combo all in one turn, leaving a buffed minion on board, then any silence UTTERLY destroys it. Silence also deals with Amet.
I also consider Nightmare Amalgam to be a poor choice. Ghost Light Angler has synergy both with murlocs and with board refill and with Bloodlust. It definitely deserves a spot.
Would it be easier to make a dedicated thread to point out any missing related cards, or should we just open a new thread anytime one is located?
Update: Yeah I've found 2 others already that need related cards. Let me know if I should open a new thread for each one, or turn this into a dedicated thread.
I just noticed that the various quest cards have not been updated yet with their associated hero powers or cards they give. Can those be updated with the "related cards" section too please?
Yeah, some stuff is marked in a not obvious way in the client, so it didnt get proper updates, we will fix these things manually, so feel free to point them out.
Thanks! I really appreciate all the hard work that is going into this site. It is filling out really nicely and the work shows. The only ones I have noticed so far is all the current quests and old quests. Is it best to pm a mod or post in a thread like this if I find something missing
I just noticed that the various quest cards have not been updated yet with their associated hero powers or cards they give. Can those be updated with the "related cards" section too please?
Yeah, some stuff is marked in a not obvious way in the client, so it didnt get proper updates, we will fix these things manually, so feel free to point them out.
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Your spam filter needs serious work, you need some method of determining trusted users who aren't likely to engage in spam. Surely editing a thread shouldn't trip the spam filter.
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Pretty much why I stay as far away as possible from Wild.... I stick to Standard & Arena; Standard lets me build cards with a fair pool (to a degree), and Arena lets me try my skill (which, I'm happy to say, I'm much better than I thought! Just started going infinite!).
I find it awesome that players are closing in on a competitive quest hunter. Still a lot of iteration to be done, but who would have guessed
I mean, you can throw 30 random hunter cards together right now and have a fairly competitive deck. I think the quest hunter is strong because Hunter is strong. Take the quest out of that deck, and it's still decent
Not sure if Octo is worth it just for this deck, try Undatakah or Siamat as replacements. Both are legendary but at least Siamat is used in plenty ofy decks.
Hey, going to bump the thread again. The set is nearly complete! I have a bunch of neutral cards left, mostly commons, 1 epic, a couple rares. The classes have each undergone multiple revisions to hone their identity and themes.
It's my intention to let this sit for a week or so, before returning to it and doing a final pass and making some nifty promo graphics.
I appreciate any feedback you have! If you see typos, mechanical problems or balance problems let me know. I'll follow up on those and edit them.
I agree, that's why you'd run things that draw cards without triggering a battlecry: Mana Tide Totem, Far Sight, and Acolyte of Pain were all traditionally included in past Shudderwock combo lists for that very reason.
I do like your [card[Doomcaller idea above! Kind of makes me want to try a full on buff Shudder'Thun bomb! Drop the Grumble, just focus on things that will buff Shudder, use Doomcaller or another method to get two C'Thun battlecries off (or more), and then trigger a double battlecry Shudderwock with either an Emperor tick or the Fencing Coach. That way the second round of C'Thun battlecry(s) will be guaranteed to be increased in damage if the first round goes before buffs like Heroic Innkeeper. Now THAT would be an Ultimate Shudderwock!
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That's why you don't run Battlecry card draw. Instead use things like Mana Tide Totem, Far Sight, Acolyte of Pain, etc. These three examples were always part of the traditional Shudderwock combo deck seeing as they draw cards without adding card draw to Shudderwock himself. Deathrattle card draw effects could also be included, like Loot Hoarder. Although many past lists also included Prince Keleseth so a card like Loot Hoarder would be out!
I swore I saw regular Hagatha in the list, but I actually would cut BOTH versions anyway as I wouldn't want my hand filling with Horrors instead of Shudders.
Your Doomcaller idea above is a pretty solid one! So is the Heroic Innkeeper since the C'Thun battlecry damage is based on Shudderwock's attack. Buff him up nicely and he can really do some damage, especially if you get C'Thun battlecry in the mix twice. With that idea in mind I almost wonder if a few things could be cut to not worry about bounce back, but instead just getting a double battlecry Shudder off that also has 1-2 C'Thun battlecries in the bank as well as self buffing effects? That to me would be the ultimate Shudderwock! :)
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Missing Related Cards
Couple more:
Halazzi, the Lynx - missing Lynx
Baited Arrow - missing Devilsaur
Missing Related Cards
Alright, I'll change this to a dedicated thread. However when I hit "Edit" to change the thread title, I'm getting a server error.
Standard Meta Report #4 - September 2, 2019 - September 8, 2019
Are we really in this place? Of all the potentially explosive combos in the game, the Divine Spirit/Inner Fire combo is one of the touchiest to pull off. First off, you need a high health minion to stick. Then you need your opponent to not have taunts. Then you need to actually have two divine spirits AND an inner fire or topsy turvy in hand.
If people are worried about DS/IF priests, put a couple reborn taunts in your deck. They can't combo through taunts, unless they have their single copy of silence in hand.
Summary: What beats the DS/IF combo? Board clears beat it; taunts beat it; trading into minions to drop their health or kill them beats it; and if they cannot do the combo all in one turn, leaving a buffed minion on board, then any silence UTTERLY destroys it. Silence also deals with Amet.
Standard Meta Report #4 - September 2, 2019 - September 8, 2019
I also consider Nightmare Amalgam to be a poor choice. Ghost Light Angler has synergy both with murlocs and with board refill and with Bloodlust. It definitely deserves a spot.
Missing Related Cards
Definitely feels better to turn this into a dedicated thread, rather than posting a new thread for every instance you find.
Missing Related Cards
I know you just recently added this feature, so trying to help out and find cards that are missing any related cards.
Hakkar, the Soulflayer is missing a related card section for Corrupted Blood.
OOC Team,
Would it be easier to make a dedicated thread to point out any missing related cards, or should we just open a new thread anytime one is located?
Update: Yeah I've found 2 others already that need related cards. Let me know if I should open a new thread for each one, or turn this into a dedicated thread.
Animal Companion
Huffer go face!
Out of Cards Changelog - 2019-09-08
Thanks! I really appreciate all the hard work that is going into this site. It is filling out really nicely and the work shows. The only ones I have noticed so far is all the current quests and old quests. Is it best to pm a mod or post in a thread like this if I find something missing
Animal Companion
"Huffer is more trouble than he's worth." I have to disagree, flavor-text author
Out of Cards Changelog - 2019-09-08
Yeah, some stuff is marked in a not obvious way in the client, so it didnt get proper updates, we will fix these things manually, so feel free to point them out.
Out of Cards Changelog - 2019-09-08
Spam filter is very new, it needs to learn. We are sorry for the inconvenience atm, bear with us ;-) Shoot us a PM or write on Discord if your post gets marked as spam when it shouldnt, we will restore it.
Meme of the Week - Inspired Highlanders!
Pretty much why I stay as far away as possible from Wild.... I stick to Standard & Arena; Standard lets me build cards with a fair pool (to a degree), and Arena lets me try my skill (which, I'm happy to say, I'm much better than I thought! Just started going infinite!).
Tombs of Terror Solo Content Giveaway
Favourite moment is dropping two legendaries in a day from packs as a f2p player.
Unsolicited ramblings on the quests
I mean, you can throw 30 random hunter cards together right now and have a fairly competitive deck. I think the quest hunter is strong because Hunter is strong. Take the quest out of that deck, and it's still decent
Traversing Azeroth - Gurubashi Arena and the Gurubashi Trolls
Great lore lessons! gg
Tombs of Terror Solo Content Giveaway
Favorite moment has been the new brawl (League of Explorers: Revived!)
Octosari
Decent card for an aggro deck that doesn't have other methods of card draw in case you are top decking.
Decent card for Deathrattle Rogue, just make sure your hand is mostly empty before playing this.
King Phaoris
Great card for a big spell Mage deck, although Mage needs more support
[Top 100] Necrium Blade Rogue
Not sure if Octo is worth it just for this deck, try Undatakah or Siamat as replacements. Both are legendary but at least Siamat is used in plenty ofy decks.
Invasion of the Legion! (New Set, WIP)
Hey, going to bump the thread again. The set is nearly complete! I have a bunch of neutral cards left, mostly commons, 1 epic, a couple rares. The classes have each undergone multiple revisions to hone their identity and themes.
It's my intention to let this sit for a week or so, before returning to it and doing a final pass and making some nifty promo graphics.
I appreciate any feedback you have! If you see typos, mechanical problems or balance problems let me know. I'll follow up on those and edit them.
I agree, that's why you'd run things that draw cards without triggering a battlecry: Mana Tide Totem, Far Sight, and Acolyte of Pain were all traditionally included in past Shudderwock combo lists for that very reason.
I do like your [card[Doomcaller idea above! Kind of makes me want to try a full on buff Shudder'Thun bomb! Drop the Grumble, just focus on things that will buff Shudder, use Doomcaller or another method to get two C'Thun battlecries off (or more), and then trigger a double battlecry Shudderwock with either an Emperor tick or the Fencing Coach. That way the second round of C'Thun battlecry(s) will be guaranteed to be increased in damage if the first round goes before buffs like Heroic Innkeeper. Now THAT would be an Ultimate Shudderwock!
Out of Cards Changelog - 2019-09-08
I was unable to edit a thread title, got a internal error 500 and then the thread got marked as spam.
Your spam filter needs serious work, you need some method of determining trusted users who aren't likely to engage in spam. Surely editing a thread shouldn't trip the spam filter.
That's why you don't run Battlecry card draw. Instead use things like Mana Tide Totem, Far Sight, Acolyte of Pain, etc. These three examples were always part of the traditional Shudderwock combo deck seeing as they draw cards without adding card draw to Shudderwock himself. Deathrattle card draw effects could also be included, like Loot Hoarder. Although many past lists also included Prince Keleseth so a card like Loot Hoarder would be out!
I swore I saw regular Hagatha in the list, but I actually would cut BOTH versions anyway as I wouldn't want my hand filling with Horrors instead of Shudders.
Your Doomcaller idea above is a pretty solid one! So is the Heroic Innkeeper since the C'Thun battlecry damage is based on Shudderwock's attack. Buff him up nicely and he can really do some damage, especially if you get C'Thun battlecry in the mix twice. With that idea in mind I almost wonder if a few things could be cut to not worry about bounce back, but instead just getting a double battlecry Shudder off that also has 1-2 C'Thun battlecries in the bank as well as self buffing effects? That to me would be the ultimate Shudderwock! :)
Accidentally deleted a post
And after two edits, its been marked as spam again.... seriously this spam filter is terrible. I tried to edit the thread title, got a server 500 internal error or something and the post dissappeared.
Traversing Azeroth - Gurubashi Arena and the Gurubashi Trolls
Interested in loa? They certainly are an interesting mix of deities. If only there was something to explain exactly what they are...... ;)