It is right, and it is no bug: Vargoth casts when your turn is over, so with Time Warp, he actually prepares an additional turn when your turn counter is already past the 1st turn, already on the 2nd one - hence making for 3 consequent turns total.
I've loved it so much that I made a thread about it. But let's stay here instead of there. So I would like to hear everyone else if they love expansion or not.
I'm not being excited by the way, I'm also wanted to try every class for the very first time! There are so many good cards, if not, they are way better than many expansions as this expansion has at least more playable cards than other sets.
It is right, and it is no bug: Vargoth casts when your turn is over, so with Time Warp, he actually prepares an additional turn when your turn counter is already past the 1st turn, already on the 2nd one - hence making for 3 consequent turns total.
I just wanted to say that I'm super excited for the new expansion. I have nobody to tell and my girlfriend just nods and says that's good when I try and tell her about the new rogue quest.
Game one. A paladin who top decks a 3/7 prelate on turn 5 that died the turn before.
Game two. A rouge (so obviously has god hand already, they always fucking do). So on top of his already ridiculous RnG he pilfers a hunters mark as a direct response to my Catrina Muerte which then trades with his silenced pogo rabbit.
Yes I totally deserve to loose like this ever let alone, in casual, as the first 2 games of the day, consecutively.
Fuck this imbalanced bullshit they call "RnG" and Fuck all you net decking pussy cunts who aren't even brave enough to loose some stars "practicing" with the best decks in the game, like they need practice you bunch of fucking wankers.
Side salt: How come Rouges don't have to obey the "Your cards cost X less but not less than (1)" rule that other cards and classes have been literally nerfed to adhere to. More horse shit for Rouges to abuse, suprise suprise.
My first one was Hunter way back in 2015, then Warlock in 2016, Druid in 2017, Mage in 2018 and now I´m very close with Paladin.. So I guess with this pattern my last golden will be Shaman in 2023 XD
Imagin playing a golden DK and not getting a golden hero. Feels totally wrong imo. Hero cards are within the most amazing golden legendarys exactly for that reason. (I opened a golden Valeera, probably my favorit golden card
You would start the game as a non-golden hero anyways.
Golden Genn and Baku only affect your heropower and not the portrait so you‘re still not all golden.
He might be slow as a win-condition, but I can't express how fun it is to play him and beat your opponent with his pings. I have to admit, that I fell in love with the C'thun mechanic, when WotOG was released - it was really amusing to build your deck around honoring an old god, gaining his trust and assistance.
One of my favourite cards in hs. When I first started playing the game, it was right before WotOG and as a f2per I really wanted to have [Hearthstone Card (the golden monkey) Not Found] and make my deck full of legendaries. I can express how satisfied I was, whenever I played the 6/6.
I like it, and i happen to have most of the pieces (barred the new ones ofc).
However, isn't the bouncing OTK too slow?
Isn't the version with Auctionmaster Beardo more reliable, before the game gets out of control (referring in particular to Quest Mage, but also Secret Mage in the incoming meta)?
I don't know how Quest Rogue was fairing in wild, but this is a nice way to make Sonya to be used as intented: a value generator using little copies of big battlecriers/deathrattlers/EoT users.
This change would have made the last few months of standard Quest Rogue look less painful for control decks, though.
Lul. You have no idea how questrogue competes in wild, but you like it. You deserve my down vote for that. :D
And thx to this change Sonya Shadowdancer is unplayable now. I want my dust refund.
Sonya is still playable in a range of other decks. That's a ridiculous reason to ask for a dust refund. Quest Rogue will be just fine with this interaction changed. Just swap out a couple of cards and move on. N
To be fair, this is absolutely a nerf to The Caverns Below. It's not ridiculous to expect a dust refund on something like that. I could see the argument that Sonya hasn't been changed - even though I'd prefer a refund option on her too - but the Rogue Quest absolutely has been changed.
It's a bit late to complain about sneaky nerfs/changes to cards that don't offer refunds, since they've done it several times before and gotten away with it, but I'll keep saying this is a shitty policy if they keep doing it. Allowing them to arbitrarily define what counts as a nerf like this means they can nerf Legendary cards and not give players anything far more easily - Mekgineer Thermaplugg, Shudderwock, Jungle Giants etc.
The rest are at most at 300 and at least 150 I still play mostly my golden classes so I am not making much progress on the other classes, excited in trying zoo priest with the quest might hit 300 on priest until the end of the expansion.
Honestly, the card is still pretty busted for what it's capable of. The stat distribution is more than optimal and the demon will oftentimes summon a 1/1 imp, making it a 3/5 for 3 mana. The only thing hindering its popularity is the lack of support for a good demonlock deck in wild.
I really wish that HSReplay.net was easier to use. I have had difficulty in the past using Hearthstone Deck Tracker so when Hearthpwn came out with InnKeeper it was a great relief on how simple and easy it was to take Hearthstone decks and load it into InnKeeper. It was automatic! I believe that this partnership between OOC and HSReplay was a good step but there should be a dedicated section of this website dedicated to helping its members in understanding how to upload decks into HSReplay. This section could be referenced by others when it comes up in discussions (which it inevitability will.)
Edit: I had an earlier version of HSReplay.net and I re-downloaded it. Once I figured out how to sync my collection with "Collection uploading" things became much easier for me. I think HSReplay.net has greatly improved their app from previous versions.
Archmage Vargoth and Open the Waygate
Yep, not a bug, definitely working as intended.
Just gotta kill them as fast as possible...
I'm excited! Are you?
I've loved it so much that I made a thread about it. But let's stay here instead of there. So I would like to hear everyone else if they love expansion or not.
I'm not being excited by the way, I'm also wanted to try every class for the very first time! There are so many good cards, if not, they are way better than many expansions as this expansion has at least more playable cards than other sets.
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
I only have priest and rarely play ranked but am thinking about doing this as my next challenge
Archmage Vargoth and Open the Waygate
It is right, and it is no bug: Vargoth casts when your turn is over, so with Time Warp, he actually prepares an additional turn when your turn counter is already past the 1st turn, already on the 2nd one - hence making for 3 consequent turns total.
I'm excited! Are you?
Hi all,
I just wanted to say that I'm super excited for the new expansion. I have nobody to tell and my girlfriend just nods and says that's good when I try and tell her about the new rogue quest.
Group Therapy! Need to blow off some steam? Mega salty? Here's the place!
2 games this morning
Game one. A paladin who top decks a 3/7 prelate on turn 5 that died the turn before.
Game two. A rouge (so obviously has god hand already, they always fucking do). So on top of his already ridiculous RnG he pilfers a hunters mark as a direct response to my Catrina Muerte which then trades with his silenced pogo rabbit.
Yes I totally deserve to loose like this ever let alone, in casual, as the first 2 games of the day, consecutively.
Fuck this imbalanced bullshit they call "RnG" and Fuck all you net decking pussy cunts who aren't even brave enough to loose some stars "practicing" with the best decks in the game, like they need practice you bunch of fucking wankers.
Side salt: How come Rouges don't have to obey the "Your cards cost X less but not less than (1)" rule that other cards and classes have been literally nerfed to adhere to. More horse shit for Rouges to abuse, suprise suprise.
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
My first one was Hunter way back in 2015, then Warlock in 2016, Druid in 2017, Mage in 2018 and now I´m very close with Paladin.. So I guess with this pattern my last golden will be Shaman in 2023 XD
Archmage Vargoth and Open the Waygate
Hi
I've been playing some wild lately and two times I played against a mage doing the quest and having Archmage Vargoth.
I looks to me like Archmage Vargoth also cast Time Warp and my opponent gets two extra turns. Is this right and if so has Blizzard commented on it?
Year of the Raven
Finally.
Golden Heropower
Imagin playing a golden DK and not getting a golden hero. Feels totally wrong imo. Hero cards are within the most amazing golden legendarys exactly for that reason. (I opened a golden Valeera, probably my favorit golden card
You would start the game as a non-golden hero anyways.
Golden Genn and Baku only affect your heropower and not the portrait so you‘re still not all golden.
Out of Cards Partners with HSReplay - The Best in Hearthstone Data
awesome
C'Thun
He might be slow as a win-condition, but I can't express how fun it is to play him and beat your opponent with his pings. I have to admit, that I fell in love with the C'thun mechanic, when WotOG was released - it was really amusing to build your deck around honoring an old god, gaining his trust and assistance.
Recent Patch with a hidden Nerf to Questrogue
This is only a contextual nerf to Sonya.
She's still a great card in Rogue, including Odd Rogue: if we want to be fair, she's more real there, than QRogue in the meta.
Surely the contextual nerf hits The Caverns Below itself very hard, and a refund for it would make sense.
But not for Sonya Shadowdancer: ie I have Sonya, but no Quest, and i would benefit out of nowhere from a change that is irrelevant to me.
Elise Starseeker
One of my favourite cards in hs. When I first started playing the game, it was right before WotOG and as a f2per I really wanted to have [Hearthstone Card (the golden monkey) Not Found] and make my deck full of legendaries. I can express how satisfied I was, whenever I played the 6/6.
Garrison Commander
Interesting synergies with the new upgraded hero powers.
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
I have paladin, hunter, warlock, mage and shaman in golden. (in that order)
Now I'm working on druid, but I play all classes more or less equally.
Saviours of Uldum Pre-Release Patch - Crystal Core Change, Card Backs, and Bug Fixes!
Am i right that the rotation for arena has gone live already? So there will be no extra-run?
[Wild] Reno OTK Pally ( Ft. Nozdormu the Timeless )
I like it, and i happen to have most of the pieces (barred the new ones ofc).
However, isn't the bouncing OTK too slow?
Isn't the version with Auctionmaster Beardo more reliable, before the game gets out of control (referring in particular to Quest Mage, but also Secret Mage in the incoming meta)?
Varian Wrynn
I really like his entrance:
Behold the Armies of Stormwind! (Queue the Stormwind music)
Confuse
Both of them look as if they just took LSDs.
Golden Heropower
I always wondered, why golden cards would change your heropower to golden. Am non golden cards would "undo" your golden Heropower.
Shouldn't the golden heropower be a sign of completing the 500 wins? And therefore not be achievable by crafting/opening a golden card?
What do you think?
Recent Patch with a hidden Nerf to Questrogue
To be fair, this is absolutely a nerf to The Caverns Below. It's not ridiculous to expect a dust refund on something like that. I could see the argument that Sonya hasn't been changed - even though I'd prefer a refund option on her too - but the Rogue Quest absolutely has been changed.
It's a bit late to complain about sneaky nerfs/changes to cards that don't offer refunds, since they've done it several times before and gotten away with it, but I'll keep saying this is a shitty policy if they keep doing it. Allowing them to arbitrarily define what counts as a nerf like this means they can nerf Legendary cards and not give players anything far more easily - Mekgineer Thermaplugg, Shudderwock, Jungle Giants etc.
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
I got golden paladin then warlock then hunter..
The rest are at most at 300 and at least 150 I still play mostly my golden classes so I am not making much progress on the other classes, excited in trying zoo priest with the quest might hit 300 on priest until the end of the expansion.
Imp Gang Boss
Honestly, the card is still pretty busted for what it's capable of. The stat distribution is more than optimal and the demon will oftentimes summon a 1/1 imp, making it a 3/5 for 3 mana. The only thing hindering its popularity is the lack of support for a good demonlock deck in wild.
Out of Cards Partners with HSReplay - The Best in Hearthstone Data
OOC,
I really wish that HSReplay.net was easier to use. I have had difficulty in the past using Hearthstone Deck Tracker so when Hearthpwn came out with InnKeeper it was a great relief on how simple and easy it was to take Hearthstone decks and load it into InnKeeper. It was automatic! I believe that this partnership between OOC and HSReplay was a good step but there should be a dedicated section of this website dedicated to helping its members in understanding how to upload decks into HSReplay. This section could be referenced by others when it comes up in discussions (which it inevitability will.)
Edit: I had an earlier version of HSReplay.net and I re-downloaded it. Once I figured out how to sync my collection with "Collection uploading" things became much easier for me. I think HSReplay.net has greatly improved their app from previous versions.