Do you plan going F2P in the future? Or will you still buy at least one of the bundles?
I feel like even the small bundle is enough to keep up with most of the meta, you just have to chose your legendarys wisely. Focus on the decks you want to play and not on the class would be my advice.
Disenchanting an entire class is not even that profitable. Assuming you got all cards of the class, you would only get 1350 dust per expansion for disenchanting everything.
800 for the 2 legendarys
400 for epics
150 for rares and commons.
If you realy need the dust, disenchant some useless legendarys from older expansions that never will see play (Griftah, Harbringer Celestia, Duskfallen Aviana, ...)
already done that.. yeah probably only buying the 50 packs bundle+3k cold. hope that will be enough for most of the time
Well think of past expansions, have you crafted cards that, say, a few weeks later you stopped using? Or decks that you thought were good and found out just didn't work out? Or decks you thought were fun and bored you after a while? I know in my case that's where a TON of my dust went off to. I would see a deck I want to craft, dust bunch of things to make it, then in a week stop using it. Then later I would need to craft the cards I dusted before. Meanwhile I STILL regret crafting Shudderwock right after the Witchwood expansion. That's 1600 dust I could've used to make the murloc warleaders that's keeping me from any decent murloc deck, for example.
If you aren't a Whale, the #1 most important resource is your dust. That, far more than gold, will determine whether you feel you 'have enough' in an expansion. I don't care if you want to solo one class or play every class, whether you play for fun or for competition, whether you suck or are good, crafting the right cards will give you the decks you need for the entire set while crafting the wrong ones will make that gold and cash seem worthless.
Don't think about how much of your collection you have or what legendaries you open. Open your packs, then think and research very VERY hard on what decks you actually REALLY want to be playing for the next 4 months. Go watch streamers, or tournaments, or use the deckbuilder, or whatever, but LOOK at those decks and think "I'm going to be running this for 4 months. Am I SURE this will do for me?" If you go this route I would say, pick about 5-7 of them perhaps.
Once you say YES to those decks, then look at your collection, see which of those decks will require the least amount of dust to craft. Then see how many you can make with the dust you have. Note that this is BEFORE dusting golden cards or duplicates, nevermind your bad cards, NEVERMIND any other dusting. JUST the dust on hand. Craft THOSE decks. Then play them.
After that, if you want to craft a new deck, start with the cheapest to replicate, and start with dusting and ONLY dust just enough to make THAT ONE deck. Myself I rarely hit the 'dust dupe' button: I manually kill enough duplicates to make THAT deck. Once I'm out of those, I dust the goldens, then the bad wild cards, then the bad standards, then so on. But usually long before then I am too busy playing the decks I already made to do anything else. Right now I'm OBSESSED with Muck Shaman, so once I made that I haven't had a reason to make anything else. Even if a quest demands a different class I just use the autocomplete to make 'the best deck' to get wins off of, or else use Brawl.
The idea is to limit the dusting to just what you need to be content. Make a few decks, play it, just make enough decks till you are happy with your decks, then stop. And make it just 'annoying' to dust to make you think. I've had a few decks that I wanted to craft then, when going to collectio nto hunt for goldens I went "do I REALLY want this deck?" and realized, not REALLLLLYY, so I didn't.
If that big mess of text helps then it might make these next few sets easier to handle for your budget and collection.
TL:DR SUMMARY
1. Dust is PRECIOUS. For anyone not a whale, this will make or break your enjoyment of a set. Treat it like happiness-wrapped Gold.
2. Be aware of past times when dust was misused: decks you crafted then stopped playing soon after. cards you later stopped using. ext. That's wasted dust that could've been used elsewhere.
3. Be systematic in a new set: Know WHAT exactly you want. Know the decks that WILL get them to you. You don't need ever deck in an expansion, just the RIGHT ones that you will be able to play for 4 MONTHS without giving up on them.
4. Start with the deck that requires the least amount of dust. Then make those, play those. Then slowly add more expensive ones until you're 'happy' with the decks you have. Then STOP.
5. Don't make dusting easy. Don't pre-dust. Dust only as needed. That INCLUDES that blasted 'dust duplicates' button. If you need to dust, rethink "do I REALLY want this deck?" Make SURE you do.
I'm betting on Quest Druid as a strong midrange/control deck and Hunter Singleton deck with secrets looks promising from Trump's stream although it might be outvalued with regular secret package. I think the most overrated quest will be a Priest one and the most underrated a Mage one.
Hey guys I can't wait to try some new decks on August 6th especially trying selfdamaging lackey zoolock so I thought I would share a deck I've come up with. I would love to see your ideas as well :)
This past reveal period has been eye opening into what kind of resources are required to run the site at a high load due the constant surges of people visiting. In preparations for the expansion next week, we'll be adding some additional caching for logged out users and I'm going to be bumping up the number of instances powering the site. There will be a very small, less than a minute, service interruption late on the weekend to enable this new configuration.
I'm confident we'll be fast, and without a doubt faster than HearthPwn ever was with launch days. It was always frustrating when people at HearthPwn knew the expansion was launching and didn't scale up the site correctly in preparation for the day. I remember when we went offline for a few minutes as an expansion was launching, the key moment of launch day. I don't plan on bringing that curse with us here =)
I definitely thought BEEEES!!!'s text was going to be something like "The long-awaited answer to "Bees?"" as a reference to Cards Against Humanity. But the one we got is very good too.
Hey so during Rise of Shadows I was using the Hpwn for saving my deck lists for Hearthstone, but I specifically remember on the Day of the expansion (Naturally) the site was very slow or non-responsive due to the Influx of traffic on the site.
I switched over here about a two weeks ago and wanted to ask If Out of cards is going to receiving any slow downs during the Opening day of the expansion and if so Is there anything you guys can do in preparation for it?
Ok, so, after facing so many big priests, I got depressed and just quit using control decks (in fact now, I only seek aggro/burn decks if playing ranked, which kind of sucks), although Reno decks are so fun to play with...
How do you guys plan to counter this cancer with these control decks? (I'm not trying to be offensive, just being pragmatic) I mean, just one or two polymorphs are not enough, drawing treachery+doomsayer is not always feasible, and Raza was nerfed...
Maybe the new Zephrys guy with a more midrang-ish deck would be possible?
Fair point. Probably just concede and move on. If have tried teching for Big Priest, but it's just not worth it. The match is still boring to play, it's still not a garanteed win and your deck is going to perform so much worse against other decks.
I don't think there is a card in the basic or classic set that Zephrys can pull out that does the job either.
Soon there will be: transform every minion into a random murloc. Sadly, that's not a neutral card, but there are many shamans out there.
Hopefully, this can hurt Big Priests a lot.
But Zephrys only pulls Basic or Classic.
Anyway, other than Big Priest, QMage is also another Control killer.
And i bet Secret Mage is bound to emerge even further in population.
Overall, the Control route is extremely narrow in Wild, and i don't see this changing any soon.
Invalid Deck ID I am a new player .So if there is someone else who can give me some tips and show me the ropes a lil bit. This quest style epicakep made game has certainly caught my attention and devotion. Thankx
Well the deck has been surprisingly successful for me, but it is still an off-meta deck, and i would suggest against crafting cards EXCLUSIVELY for it.
On the other hand, once you have Genn Greymane, you can build Even Shaman (top tier deck) for very cheap, Even Warlock with some extra, but also Even Rogue, and then also try any other Even deck that comes up to your mind, as i did here.
So yeah, if you already tried some Wild games, and you liked it, starting from Genn is a smart idea, cheap, effective, and fun.
That is super insightful. Thanks dude. I think like you say, and ods/even deck will be the strongest thing I could build on a budget :)
Thank you guys for all your answers! I think I will start with crafting Reno and Kazakus from Wild and Zephrys from Uldum and try it out as much as I can. I have been waiting for a push like that to start playing Wild after all these years with Standard.
Playing only a few classes
Well think of past expansions, have you crafted cards that, say, a few weeks later you stopped using? Or decks that you thought were good and found out just didn't work out? Or decks you thought were fun and bored you after a while? I know in my case that's where a TON of my dust went off to. I would see a deck I want to craft, dust bunch of things to make it, then in a week stop using it. Then later I would need to craft the cards I dusted before. Meanwhile I STILL regret crafting Shudderwock right after the Witchwood expansion. That's 1600 dust I could've used to make the murloc warleaders that's keeping me from any decent murloc deck, for example.
If you aren't a Whale, the #1 most important resource is your dust. That, far more than gold, will determine whether you feel you 'have enough' in an expansion. I don't care if you want to solo one class or play every class, whether you play for fun or for competition, whether you suck or are good, crafting the right cards will give you the decks you need for the entire set while crafting the wrong ones will make that gold and cash seem worthless.
Don't think about how much of your collection you have or what legendaries you open. Open your packs, then think and research very VERY hard on what decks you actually REALLY want to be playing for the next 4 months. Go watch streamers, or tournaments, or use the deckbuilder, or whatever, but LOOK at those decks and think "I'm going to be running this for 4 months. Am I SURE this will do for me?" If you go this route I would say, pick about 5-7 of them perhaps.
Once you say YES to those decks, then look at your collection, see which of those decks will require the least amount of dust to craft. Then see how many you can make with the dust you have. Note that this is BEFORE dusting golden cards or duplicates, nevermind your bad cards, NEVERMIND any other dusting. JUST the dust on hand. Craft THOSE decks. Then play them.
After that, if you want to craft a new deck, start with the cheapest to replicate, and start with dusting and ONLY dust just enough to make THAT ONE deck. Myself I rarely hit the 'dust dupe' button: I manually kill enough duplicates to make THAT deck. Once I'm out of those, I dust the goldens, then the bad wild cards, then the bad standards, then so on. But usually long before then I am too busy playing the decks I already made to do anything else. Right now I'm OBSESSED with Muck Shaman, so once I made that I haven't had a reason to make anything else. Even if a quest demands a different class I just use the autocomplete to make 'the best deck' to get wins off of, or else use Brawl.
The idea is to limit the dusting to just what you need to be content. Make a few decks, play it, just make enough decks till you are happy with your decks, then stop. And make it just 'annoying' to dust to make you think. I've had a few decks that I wanted to craft then, when going to collectio nto hunt for goldens I went "do I REALLY want this deck?" and realized, not REALLLLLYY, so I didn't.
If that big mess of text helps then it might make these next few sets easier to handle for your budget and collection.
TL:DR SUMMARY
1. Dust is PRECIOUS. For anyone not a whale, this will make or break your enjoyment of a set. Treat it like happiness-wrapped Gold.
2. Be aware of past times when dust was misused: decks you crafted then stopped playing soon after. cards you later stopped using. ext. That's wasted dust that could've been used elsewhere.
3. Be systematic in a new set: Know WHAT exactly you want. Know the decks that WILL get them to you. You don't need ever deck in an expansion, just the RIGHT ones that you will be able to play for 4 MONTHS without giving up on them.
4. Start with the deck that requires the least amount of dust. Then make those, play those. Then slowly add more expensive ones until you're 'happy' with the decks you have. Then STOP.
5. Don't make dusting easy. Don't pre-dust. Dust only as needed. That INCLUDES that blasted 'dust duplicates' button. If you need to dust, rethink "do I REALLY want this deck?" Make SURE you do.
6. Hope this helps.
Plague of Death
The ultimate board clear.
Which Quest you'd hate to get
Simply put - If you can guarantee that 1 of the 9 quests will not be your free Legendary Quest, which one would that be?
For me personally, I'd love anything except the Hack the System , because I don't see myself going for weapon oriented warrior.
Stress testing for Saviors of Uldum
I'm glad you guys will have a handle on the site in preparation for SoU, Thanks for the prompt response!
New Viable Archetypes in Saviors of Uldum?
I'm betting on Quest Druid as a strong midrange/control deck and Hunter Singleton deck with secrets looks promising from Trump's stream although it might be outvalued with regular secret package. I think the most overrated quest will be a Priest one and the most underrated a Mage one.
Untapped Potential and Coin
Good to know. Thank you
Untapped Potential and Coin
Ye it does
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Quest paladin bad?99
I think it won't be a meme but probably tier 3 or tier 2 deck at best.
Theorycraft Quest Paladin
You can go infinite with Immortal Prelate and Da Undatakah combined with new hero power
Untapped Potential and Coin
Anyone knows if coin will trigger Untapped Potential ? For exemple: T1 Quest + Coin. Will count as unspent mana?
Theorycrafting new type of zoolock
Hey guys I can't wait to try some new decks on August 6th especially trying selfdamaging lackey zoolock so I thought I would share a deck I've come up with. I would love to see your ideas as well :)
https://outof.cards/hearthstone/decks/4623-self-damage-lackey-
zoolock
Wild · Zoolock · by Meneldor · 7 years, 1 month ago
Saviours of Uldum Pre-Release Patch - Crystal Core Change, Card Backs, and Bug Fixes!
I like it too...I just don't understand why it's a sea of dunes. I figured i t would have been more.....sandy.
Stress testing for Saviors of Uldum
Hey CovenantKevlar,
This past reveal period has been eye opening into what kind of resources are required to run the site at a high load due the constant surges of people visiting. In preparations for the expansion next week, we'll be adding some additional caching for logged out users and I'm going to be bumping up the number of instances powering the site. There will be a very small, less than a minute, service interruption late on the weekend to enable this new configuration.
I'm confident we'll be fast, and without a doubt faster than HearthPwn ever was with launch days. It was always frustrating when people at HearthPwn knew the expansion was launching and didn't scale up the site correctly in preparation for the day. I remember when we went offline for a few minutes as an expansion was launching, the key moment of launch day. I don't plan on bringing that curse with us here =)
All Card Flavor Text for Saviors of Uldum
I definitely thought BEEEES!!!'s text was going to be something like "The long-awaited answer to "Bees?"" as a reference to Cards Against Humanity. But the one we got is very good too.
My Pack
Yep
Saviors of Uldum - 5 Pack Bundles Giveaway
Favorite card this expansion is Splitting Axe just cause i hope we finally get a totem shaman deck :P
Minds Eyes
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Hey so during Rise of Shadows I was using the Hpwn for saving my deck lists for Hearthstone, but I specifically remember on the Day of the expansion (Naturally) the site was very slow or non-responsive due to the Influx of traffic on the site.
I switched over here about a two weeks ago and wanted to ask If Out of cards is going to receiving any slow downs during the Opening day of the expansion and if so Is there anything you guys can do in preparation for it?
Wild Highlander decks with new expansion
Reno even lock looks sweet with zephyr
Saviours of Uldum Pre-Release Patch - Crystal Core Change, Card Backs, and Bug Fixes!
NICE!
Wild Highlander Deck Ideas
But Zephrys only pulls Basic or Classic.
Anyway, other than Big Priest, QMage is also another Control killer.
And i bet Secret Mage is bound to emerge even further in population.
Overall, the Control route is extremely narrow in Wild, and i don't see this changing any soon.
Save the date 8/11/2019
Invalid Deck ID I am a new player .So if there is someone else who can give me some tips and show me the ropes a lil bit. This quest style epicakep made game has certainly caught my attention and devotion. Thankx
Grimm Face Hunter
That is super insightful. Thanks dude. I think like you say, and ods/even deck will be the strongest thing I could build on a budget :)
Wild Highlander decks with new expansion
Thank you guys for all your answers! I think I will start with crafting Reno and Kazakus from Wild and Zephrys from Uldum and try it out as much as I can. I have been waiting for a push like that to start playing Wild after all these years with Standard.