I don't mind Bibliomite by itself at all. What I don't understand is why two minions of the same race, in the same set, in the same class are using different mechanics (shuffling vs discarding) to achieve essentially the same thing. Doubly so for cards designed to win games quickly. Just pick a lane Blizz!
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I think the shuffle minion is meant to reduce the amount of cards in hand so that maybe you don’t discard too many resources with this legendary. So basically when combined with the weapon the intent seems to be play cards and/or shuffle them back to your deck. Then with very few cards in hand and weapon online play the 7/7, swing weapon to replace what discarded. But with Razorfen Beastmaster who needs to worry about playing this guy from hand, right?
Not sure how good it’ll be but DH has in the past been a class to just spam small stuff, go face, and scam some quick wins. With the 7/7 it could do more of that, but if you don’t have control of the board it could get some value via your opponent getting spooked and trading into it but not much else.
I am happy though to see a few things like Bibliomite as I always liked trying Ping Combo DH with Metamorphosis, and shuffling pieces back in when it’s too soon could help.
I completely agree -- restricting this to minions is a huge limitation, because they are inherently less powerful than spells simply due to the fact that they can be used over multiple rounds.
The most obvious class for new Kael'thas is rogue because of Shadowstep. However, I can't think of an expensive and impactful minion they would want to cheat out with this effect.
because those uninteractive play patterns can require a level of skill to perform that justifies the slight frustration that can come from it. if its overpowered they can nerf it, its not the end of the world and they shouldnt completely limit themselves from the number zero just because it makes all the people that dont understand high skill cap uninteractive decks complain about it.
Always nice to see more Yeti support. Maybe the addition of the new Reputation cards might be enough to push it over as a variant of Ashe/Udyr LeBlanc?
Apart from that, DH has problems to be at competitive level in Wild, so I'm fine if Odd DH exists... we will see if that weapon make it too strong or not...
The difference between old Kael and new Kael is that spells exist that costed zero (to discount bigger spells), drew and dealt damage at the same time. There is nothing like that minion wise so the most this is ever going to do is cheat out a big guy. If you saw this and thought wild is going to burn I think you are mistaken.
Well, we saw our first Nerf of the set. Did we learn nothing about this guy with the spells? Colossal minions coming out super fast is scary.
You're looking at at least 6-7 mana to cheat something out, or even more cards to cheat Kael out then a big minion. It's hard to chain minions together, so you're probably only getting this effect once. Which class plays this card? It doesn't seem worth it.
What you're saying is true... It is harder to chain minions together than spells. That being said, Druid, Rogue, Shaman, and Paladin could make excellent use of this card with the little things that support the big things.
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I don't mind Bibliomite by itself at all. What I don't understand is why two minions of the same race, in the same set, in the same class are using different mechanics (shuffling vs discarding) to achieve essentially the same thing. Doubly so for cards designed to win games quickly. Just pick a lane Blizz!
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There Riot did daybreak really dirty
heal your allies wouldn't even that good if it wasn't a daybreak but this... is just terrible
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I just built a Face DH and got a one and done victory for the week.
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I think the shuffle minion is meant to reduce the amount of cards in hand so that maybe you don’t discard too many resources with this legendary. So basically when combined with the weapon the intent seems to be play cards and/or shuffle them back to your deck. Then with very few cards in hand and weapon online play the 7/7, swing weapon to replace what discarded. But with Razorfen Beastmaster who needs to worry about playing this guy from hand, right?
Not sure how good it’ll be but DH has in the past been a class to just spam small stuff, go face, and scam some quick wins. With the 7/7 it could do more of that, but if you don’t have control of the board it could get some value via your opponent getting spooked and trading into it but not much else.
I am happy though to see a few things like Bibliomite as I always liked trying Ping Combo DH with Metamorphosis, and shuffling pieces back in when it’s too soon could help.
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me, whos going to hit legend with it first:
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I completely agree -- restricting this to minions is a huge limitation, because they are inherently less powerful than spells simply due to the fact that they can be used over multiple rounds.
The most obvious class for new Kael'thas is rogue because of Shadowstep. However, I can't think of an expensive and impactful minion they would want to cheat out with this effect.
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because those uninteractive play patterns can require a level of skill to perform that justifies the slight frustration that can come from it. if its overpowered they can nerf it, its not the end of the world and they shouldnt completely limit themselves from the number zero just because it makes all the people that dont understand high skill cap uninteractive decks complain about it.
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Always nice to see more Yeti support. Maybe the addition of the new Reputation cards might be enough to push it over as a variant of Ashe/Udyr LeBlanc?
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At least Kryxis the Voracious can't be played in Odd DH in Wild :D
Apart from that, DH has problems to be at competitive level in Wild, so I'm fine if Odd DH exists... we will see if that weapon make it too strong or not...
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Wow, very strong stats and very powerful with taunt and deathrattle.
Very solid card
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The difference between old Kael and new Kael is that spells exist that costed zero (to discount bigger spells), drew and dealt damage at the same time. There is nothing like that minion wise so the most this is ever going to do is cheat out a big guy. If you saw this and thought wild is going to burn I think you are mistaken.
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What you're saying is true... It is harder to chain minions together than spells. That being said, Druid, Rogue, Shaman, and Paladin could make excellent use of this card with the little things that support the big things.
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I think this is awesome. But I love playing Secrets. If you have secret synergy, then this will be another notch on the belt. Otherwise, filler.