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I disagree, Demon Hunter's main gimmick of building up lots of one-turn attack buffs to augment weak weapons is not really seen in any other class. Personally, I find that gameplay loop pretty fun. The main issue is that their minions and non-attack spells are all over the place.
However, I also think that people are way too harsh on DH. Any time Blizzard makes something that's an even slight deviation on theme for them, and people flip their shit. Deathrattle DH was the only time I've had fun with the class, because it was something fresh. They should be allowed to experiment and find their footing.
To name a few points that are unique to deamonhunters:
-Demonhunters have the unique combination of high card draw and low card generation. This allows them to put out threat after threat each turn, but also causes them to reach fatique extremely quick. Basically a deamonhunter that relentlessly chases you before running out of energy.
-DHs also have strong AoE removel, but struggle against single big minions.
-The class focuses a lot on attacking with their hero, but unlike rogues they do it to pressure their opponents and not (always) to gain tempo. They also barely rely on weapons for this which is something only druids did before, but never really succeeded with.
-They also have quite a unique spin on their token archetypes. Instead of overwhelming their opponents with AoE buffed tokens, they instead let their minions die and "harvest their souls" with other cards and make use of them that way.
Is the casting order fixed or random? I'm assuming when the first relic is cast, the second one is improved, and the third one gets improved again. And of course they start with whatever improvements they got from past relics. The order the casting happens in might have significant impact on how good the card is.
Does Fluffy Kael'thas count itself as the first minion? If so, then for 9-mana you can play Fluffy Kael'thas, Brann Bronzebeard, and any minion for nothing, which opens up all 8+ cost minions to abuse with Brann. Who wants double Jace Darkweaver? Or Kel'Thuzad, the Inevitable?
You play the new Demon Hunter weapon , play this , attack with weapon and immediatley draw 3 from the weapon. I can see this working ...sureley not all the time but i guess this is at least a decent card.
This seems to be a very good refill option for demon hunter. Mostly for the more aggressive archetypes because you can just dump your minions and draw with the weapon.
There is quite strong synergy here actually. Bibliomite can save a card you do not wish to discard and it reduces your hand by 1 so effects like the glaive trigger fully more easily.
There seem to some push for vomit dhunter into the meta. In my opinion it'll likely just end up being shit either way, but we'll see.
Razorfen Beastmaster is a thing, which will do wonders getting Kryxis the Voracious out for free + three cards, but deathrattle dhunter has not really picked out much, being completely destroyed by all aggro decks and then being outvalued by control. Sadly, Im not optimistic of its chances to be honest.
Burden of Pride is probably shit. But there might be a world where this sees some play, probably in some midrange rush warrior. Control probably dont need it, unless youre jamming renathal.
Magnifying Glaive is the sort of thing you need if youre playing vomit dhunter. But with so poor attack and only two durability, it may well be shit, even if the archetype miraculously becomes tier 2 and above.
IMO, Demon Hunter -- the class based on people who are training-obsessed edgelords who will straight-up unironically tell you that while you were indulging yourself they studied the blade -- should have been a buff class built around their minions going dormant and having training montages where they get buffer and buffer. No huge demon-summoning (they're supposed to kill most of those). I also like the idea of your minions and hero on occasion switching places (so a hero card that summons a minion that represents your hero while pulling a minion -- your new hero -- off the board) representing Demon Hunters fluidly entering fights to personally get their hands dirty.
All of that is simply more difficult to deal with than revisiting established tropes. Team 5 can't even give Priest solid, reliable board-centric tempo play and that's arguably the easiest thing in Hearthstone to design. While I put a lot of Blizzard's decisions down to corporate pressure to make a quick buck with the sloppiest, hypest mana-cheats they can toss out, some of this is the design team simply being nowhere near we players on theme for reasons that are completely elusive.
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Wait, why did Bibliomite go through all the faff of shuffling the card back into the deck if DH discards now anyway? Also, why is DH discarding now? 2+ years on and the class still hasn't convinced me it brings something to the table that warlock, hunter and rogue hadn't already got covered.
Razorfen Beastmaster exists, but it's stranded. Trust me, Deathrattle DH has been getting punched in the nethers for a year now (as if its questionable theming wasn't pain enough). The rest of the DR package won't justify this stand-out.
Magnifying Glaive might bring back quest Demon Hunter. You'll have to play super-low-curve. Maybe there's a chance that Wayward Sage won't suck here.
New Hunter Spell - Frenzied Fangs
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Kryxis the Voracious
Now THAT's what I call a turn 4 7/7.
Ghastly Gravedigger is a New Rogue Card Revealed by Gamespot for Murder at Castle Nathria
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Secrets work for this guy and he looks like he could be a paladin.
Three Cards Revealed by Roger for Castle Nathria, Including New Demon Hunter Legendary
I disagree, Demon Hunter's main gimmick of building up lots of one-turn attack buffs to augment weak weapons is not really seen in any other class. Personally, I find that gameplay loop pretty fun. The main issue is that their minions and non-attack spells are all over the place.
However, I also think that people are way too harsh on DH. Any time Blizzard makes something that's an even slight deviation on theme for them, and people flip their shit. Deathrattle DH was the only time I've had fun with the class, because it was something fresh. They should be allowed to experiment and find their footing.
Three Cards Revealed by Roger for Castle Nathria, Including New Demon Hunter Legendary
To name a few points that are unique to deamonhunters:
-Demonhunters have the unique combination of high card draw and low card generation. This allows them to put out threat after threat each turn, but also causes them to reach fatique extremely quick. Basically a deamonhunter that relentlessly chases you before running out of energy.
-DHs also have strong AoE removel, but struggle against single big minions.
-The class focuses a lot on attacking with their hero, but unlike rogues they do it to pressure their opponents and not (always) to gain tempo. They also barely rely on weapons for this which is something only druids did before, but never really succeeded with.
-They also have quite a unique spin on their token archetypes. Instead of overwhelming their opponents with AoE buffed tokens, they instead let their minions die and "harvest their souls" with other cards and make use of them that way.
New Demon Hunter Minion - Artificer Xy'mox
Is the casting order fixed or random? I'm assuming when the first relic is cast, the second one is improved, and the third one gets improved again. And of course they start with whatever improvements they got from past relics. The order the casting happens in might have significant impact on how good the card is.
New Paladin Spell - Promotion
This seems oddly specific. Though you can summon a Silver Hand Recruit whenever you want, so it might work.
Kael'thas Sinstrider is a New Legendary Card Revealed by LoveStorm for Murder at Castle Nathria
Does Fluffy Kael'thas count itself as the first minion? If so, then for 9-mana you can play Fluffy Kael'thas, Brann Bronzebeard, and any minion for nothing, which opens up all 8+ cost minions to abuse with Brann. Who wants double Jace Darkweaver? Or Kel'Thuzad, the Inevitable?
New Demon Hunter Minion - Kryxis the Voracious
Could be good for aggro !
You play the new Demon Hunter weapon , play this , attack with weapon and immediatley draw 3 from the weapon. I can see this working ...sureley not all the time but i guess this is at least a decent card.
Tome Tampering is a New Warlock Card Revealed by Millenium for Murder at Castle Nathria
This looks fun...but we'd need a heck of a lot of discard support or this is way too detrimental to your whole game plan
New Warrior Spell - Burden of Pride
I like this. Good survival tool and the stats for 4 mana are pretty good even without the +1/+1 buff.
New Demon Hunter Weapon - Magnifying Glaive
This seems to be a very good refill option for demon hunter. Mostly for the more aggressive archetypes because you can just dump your minions and draw with the weapon.
Three Cards Revealed by Roger for Castle Nathria, Including New Demon Hunter Legendary
There is quite strong synergy here actually. Bibliomite can save a card you do not wish to discard and it reduces your hand by 1 so effects like the glaive trigger fully more easily.
Three Cards Revealed by Roger for Castle Nathria, Including New Demon Hunter Legendary
There seem to some push for vomit dhunter into the meta. In my opinion it'll likely just end up being shit either way, but we'll see.
Razorfen Beastmaster is a thing, which will do wonders getting Kryxis the Voracious out for free + three cards, but deathrattle dhunter has not really picked out much, being completely destroyed by all aggro decks and then being outvalued by control. Sadly, Im not optimistic of its chances to be honest.
Burden of Pride is probably shit. But there might be a world where this sees some play, probably in some midrange rush warrior. Control probably dont need it, unless youre jamming renathal.
Magnifying Glaive is the sort of thing you need if youre playing vomit dhunter. But with so poor attack and only two durability, it may well be shit, even if the archetype miraculously becomes tier 2 and above.
Three Cards Revealed by Roger for Castle Nathria, Including New Demon Hunter Legendary
Fuck that weapon scares me. So excited to face that stupid all-1-drop Odd DH in Wild again...
Three Cards Revealed by Roger for Castle Nathria, Including New Demon Hunter Legendary
IMO, Demon Hunter -- the class based on people who are training-obsessed edgelords who will straight-up unironically tell you that while you were indulging yourself they studied the blade -- should have been a buff class built around their minions going dormant and having training montages where they get buffer and buffer. No huge demon-summoning (they're supposed to kill most of those). I also like the idea of your minions and hero on occasion switching places (so a hero card that summons a minion that represents your hero while pulling a minion -- your new hero -- off the board) representing Demon Hunters fluidly entering fights to personally get their hands dirty.
All of that is simply more difficult to deal with than revisiting established tropes. Team 5 can't even give Priest solid, reliable board-centric tempo play and that's arguably the easiest thing in Hearthstone to design. While I put a lot of Blizzard's decisions down to corporate pressure to make a quick buck with the sloppiest, hypest mana-cheats they can toss out, some of this is the design team simply being nowhere near we players on theme for reasons that are completely elusive.
Three Cards Revealed by Roger for Castle Nathria, Including New Demon Hunter Legendary
The return of Deathrattle DH? Might be worth a shot.
Tome Tampering is a New Warlock Card Revealed by Millenium for Murder at Castle Nathria
Hey that's pretty cool.
Feels like a legendary effect in this low power level expansion.
14 New Castle Nathria Cards Revealed by SaveFile17, Dreads, Redbeard, & TrumpSC
Famished Fool is basically Azure Drake that can sometimes draw 3 instead of 1. You can bet your ass this card will be played.
New Demon Hunter Weapon - Magnifying Glaive
A new Common Demon Hunter Weapon, Magnifying Glaive, has been revealed!
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Kael'thas Sinstrider is a New Legendary Card Revealed by LoveStorm for Murder at Castle Nathria
I don't think this will be good outside of Druid.
If you can't activate the effect before turn 9 what's the point?
New Warrior Spell - Burden of Pride
A new Epic Warrior Spell, Burden of Pride, has been revealed!
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Three Cards Revealed by Roger for Castle Nathria, Including New Demon Hunter Legendary
Wait, why did Bibliomite go through all the faff of shuffling the card back into the deck if DH discards now anyway? Also, why is DH discarding now? 2+ years on and the class still hasn't convinced me it brings something to the table that warlock, hunter and rogue hadn't already got covered.
Kael'thas Sinstrider is a New Legendary Card Revealed by LoveStorm for Murder at Castle Nathria
Hope I open a golden this so I can dust it once it gets nerfed
Three Cards Revealed by Roger for Castle Nathria, Including New Demon Hunter Legendary
Razorfen Beastmaster exists, but it's stranded. Trust me, Deathrattle DH has been getting punched in the nethers for a year now (as if its questionable theming wasn't pain enough). The rest of the DR package won't justify this stand-out.
Magnifying Glaive might bring back quest Demon Hunter. You'll have to play super-low-curve. Maybe there's a chance that Wayward Sage won't suck here.