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The meta right now is Face Hunter, Evolve Shaman, Aggro Demon Hunter (is there another kind?), Totem Shaman, "Enhancement" (Face) Shaman, "Soul" Demon Hunter (uh, be real and just call it Face DH), Highlander Hunter, Silver Hand Paladin (b…
The meta right now is Face Hunter, Evolve Shaman, Aggro Demon Hunter (is there another kind?), Totem Shaman, "Enhancement" (Face) Shaman, "Soul" Demon Hunter (uh, be real and just call it Face DH), Highlander Hunter, Silver Hand Paladin (board flood).....and Pure Paladin.
Every single one of those decks is ultra aggro/face with the exception of the Paladin decks, which are aggressive midrange. I don't know of a single viable control deck right now. Druid's trying to make big clowns but that deck's gotta be getting wrecked by these face decks. Same thing with any controlling Warrior, Priest or Mage. If you look at Tiers 3 and 4 on HSReplay you'll see all the control decks. Tiers 1 and 2 are all aggro with a few midrange decks in the bottom half of Tier 2, and Paladin.
I first discovered Hearthstone during the Kobold and Catacombs meta, which was very controlling. It was all the great control decks and epic games you could have with them that made me fall in love with the game. I feel like we're as far as can be from that. There's a lot of talk about Blizzard's business practices and the restrictiveness of the the new rewards track. I'm on board with most of that but the lack of control decks is a much bigger problem for me than any of that. Anyone having the same experience? I've been willing to pay for Hearthstone. I'd love to pay less and all that, but if I buy in and all I can do is a) play an aggro/face deck, b) play Pure Paladin, or c) play the kind of control deck that I love and feel impotent as aggro rushes me down....then...I hate to say it but what am I doing here?
In fact I can't even play a control deck that I enjoy because I enjoy playing good control decks that have a decent chance to at least win over 50% of their games. There's not a single one right now. Not one.
Demon Hunter has obviously pushed the game in an aggro direction. They said they didn't want to print more charge cards, yet they flood DH with powerful damage from hand every expansion. What is that if not charge??? They give hunter meme deathrattle cards and meta-defining face cards like Toxic Reinforcements. They pushed Shaman towards aggro with this expansion. They gave Zoo Warlock powerful tools like Revenant Rascal and Wriggling Horror. They even gave Paladin an aggro deck with all the silver hand cards!
Meanwhile what did control players get to work with? Tickatus? Control Warlock isn't even in the meta as far as I can see. Warrior got control tools right? Nope. The menagerie stuff is all oriented to aggressive midrange lists. Only Priest got some decent control tools. But they're not enough to make the deck even Tier 2. Maybe Big Priest can just eke out a 50% winrate.
I was actually kinda hoping this meta would slow down due to the old gods and the corrupt mechanic but it's actually worse than ever!! So what it is going on? Why is control being squeezed out? Because the people shouting on Reddit are mostly F2P aggro players and Blizzard thinks everyone hates control? Because they did market research and found out most players don't have the attention span for control? Because they made some toxic control decks that took too long to lose to like Quest Priest and now they're playing it safe by letting every lose quickly to aggro...so that they can lose quickly to aggro again or just play aggro? Because only whales play control decks and most people that play the game just have one cheap aggro deck that they can run?
I need answers. If the game is going to be like this from now on then, all theatrics and denunciations aside, this is just not Hearthstone anymore. Not for me and players like me. I'm not an aggro player. I'm not into rushing face damage and flooding boards. I'm into reacting and carefully executing my plan. I'm into cool combos and synergies and fun interactions. I'm into mid-length games and the occasional long game, not races. I'm into epic, awesome, control matches. That's my thing. Is it just me? Has the game and the community left me behind? If Hearthstone is all about aggression now and control is a thing of the past someone please let me know and at least put me out of my misery!
I've put together a collection of all secret cards in the game in one easy place to check if you're not sure what your opponent may have played or otherwise. There's a total of four classes in the game that have secret cards, and they will…
I've put together a collection of all secret cards in the game in one easy place to check if you're not sure what your opponent may have played or otherwise. There's a total of four classes in the game that have secret cards, and they will be presented here alphabetically, and with standard cards separate. Up to date as of Rise of Shadows.
If you are new to the game, we also have some guides on basic class cards along with some lore that everyone may enjoy here.
This subject is serious : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8FIefv8API&ab_channel=MarkMcKz
This subject is serious : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8FIefv8API&ab_channel=MarkMcKz
Is it just me or does it seem like "Finish an Arena run with 4 or more wins." and "Finish in Top 2 in Battlegrounds." has a much higher chance to appear? This is my third time rerolling those today and the third time they've rerol…
Is it just me or does it seem like "Finish an Arena run with 4 or more wins." and "Finish in Top 2 in Battlegrounds." has a much higher chance to appear?
This is my third time rerolling those today and the third time they've rerolled into each other.
OK, so like others who have tried to assess how the new Rewards Track compares to the old system, I assumed that completing the Weekly Quests would be a done deal, even while acknowledging that non-ranked players would be missing out on a …
OK, so like others who have tried to assess how the new Rewards Track compares to the old system, I assumed that completing the Weekly Quests would be a done deal, even while acknowledging that non-ranked players would be missing out on a chunk of XP. Well it turns out even ranked players could be disadvantaged too. Last week, I missed one weekly quest because I was constantly re-rolling quests that involved winning in other game modes; the 2nd weekly quest I completed involved a helluva lot of grinding (spend 500 mana).
This goes against Blizzard's promise that we'd be able to get a similar level of rewards for the same play pattern. Already playing to win 7 ranked games a week was going out of my usual play pattern, but now I find it's worse than I thought; I think many of us will be made to spend more time on the game than before. Either weekly quests need to be re-designed, or daily quests need to award more XP so that players can achieve previous level of rewards without weekly quests.
Note: Do not use the regular hearthcards link to post your card(s). The image will disappear after 3 days! Either generate permanent link on HC, or host your card on imgur or similar site! Hello guys! Since a good chunk of the Hearthpwn c…
Note: Do not use the regular hearthcards link to post your card(s). The image will disappear after 3 days! Either generate permanent link on HC, or host your card on imgur or similar site!
Hello guys! Since a good chunk of the Hearthpwn community is moving here i thought we should continue some of our traditions. In the past few months this thread has received great traction so let's continue it here! The rules are the same, you create a custom hearthstone card with the art and specifications the previous post on the thread gave and then you post your own art and specifications and wait for the next user to create your card.
Example art:
And the card:
Use my example art to make a neutral card. Have fun!
As the title says, it occurs to me, while i am having very much fun during the games of heroic duels, i'm getting no xp on reward track whatsoever. For me, its a better mode than arena, you have bigger control over what your deck strategy…
As the title says, it occurs to me, while i am having very much fun during the games of heroic duels, i'm getting no xp on reward track whatsoever.
For me, its a better mode than arena, you have bigger control over what your deck strategy would like to be, meanwhile you can achieve the same rewards. I think its easier to reach the minimum 4-5 wins per run, than arena, so one could say, it is more profitable mode. And much more exciting!
The cherry on the top would be that, while you having a good time, getting extra gold from the runs, you collecting that sweet experience, which is well desired to reach new reward track levels. But that on heroic duels mode just simply doesnt happen. I checked- playing battlegrounds and ranked counts instantly, even simple duel counts. However despite the fact i spent 2-3 hours dueling in heroic, i didnt get a singe xp.
What do you think? It is intentional, and its because you shouldnt get that many rewards from a single mode, or its clearly a bug, and players should be compensated?
Libram Paladin is running wild and there is no viable silence card in Standard. Owl is trash for 3 mana, the new neutral deathrattle silence minion sucks even more and Spellbreaker went into Wild. It is time that Owl got a rebuff to 2 man…
Libram Paladin is running wild and there is no viable silence card in Standard. Owl is trash for 3 mana, the new neutral deathrattle silence minion sucks even more and Spellbreaker went into Wild.
It is time that Owl got a rebuff to 2 mana or got at least some extra stats.
Hello, I was looking for duels decks and I found your website. I used to use hearthpwn and I am looking forward to getting familiar with out of cards! My first issue is that I am using the out of cards plugin for HDT. In HS, it s…
Hello,
I was looking for duels decks and I found your website. I used to use hearthpwn and I am looking forward to getting familiar with out of cards!
My first issue is that I am using the out of cards plugin for HDT. In HS, it says that my card collection is syncing, yet I still cannot see how much dust each deck will cost me.
My second issue is a request - we can filter by just about anything we want except for our hero power and maybe also our desired treasure. If I know I want to use a particular hero power, I would love an option to filter by a class/hero power combination so I can see all decks that support my desired hero power. How hard would this be to implement? The hero power is most important, but the treasure would be nice if that is possible too!
Competition Theme: Old Gods, New Tricks Quick, the Old Gods are coming! We'd best design a card to appease them...You must create a Class minion with the Corrupt mechanicThankfully, Y'Shaarj isn't too picky - …
Quick, the Old Gods are coming! We'd best design a card to appease them...
MathU and grumpymonk both gave us some great options for the competition this week, so we combined them into one Old God celebrating theme!
As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.
Here are the phases of this card design competition
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Are games with a hero in the brawl no longer valid for daily quests (like play 3 games with hunter)?
Are games with a hero in the brawl no longer valid for daily quests (like play 3 games with hunter)?
The bug cost me a game. Fix it! I used a [runecard]Progress Day![/runecard] and he didn't make a turret for it.
The bug cost me a game. Fix it! I used a Progress Day! and he didn't make a turret for it.
By now most of us have had a chance to make at least a few decks with the new cards. We obviously have NOT had enough time to see what the meta will be like, let alone if the cards we liked in theory are worth a damn. That being sai…
By now most of us have had a chance to make at least a few decks with the new cards. We obviously have NOT had enough time to see what the meta will be like, let alone if the cards we liked in theory are worth a damn.
That being said, I am getting the itchy crafting finger to want to craft Tickatus and Y'Shaarj, the Defiler for a theory craft Wild deck I have. Given that both of these are legendary, the craft cost is not cheap.
So my questions I have to pose for the community is this... what are the cards you want to craft, and how long do you usually wait to craft cards after a release?
Hallo everyone. My Name is Samuel from Hearthstone, my Nick ingame is DoktorOkabe. I have so much to tell about the new System as a Pay to Play Player and as a lover since Ungoro.First off lets talk about the new system. Everyone Hates it,…
Hallo everyone. My Name is Samuel from Hearthstone, my Nick ingame is DoktorOkabe. I have so much to tell about the new System as a Pay to Play Player and as a lover since Ungoro.
First off lets talk about the new system. Everyone Hates it, or the biggest half of the community. So me too. Why? Its because Blizzard REALY stole my progress.
I am beeing Slowed Down by A lot. And when i say by a lot, i mean REALY by a lot.
Before the rewamp i could earn nearly a pack or arena ticket a day. (quest + wins). This helps me out to get the cards i didnt draw from the mega bundles i always buy. (blame me or not but i love the game and have the money :D)
But most times i miss about 22 Cards, 18 Legends and 2 or more epics (doubles or solo epics)
After the normal release of a expansion it just need about 4 Weeks to get nearly all my intendet cards. And after this i allways spend the dust for golden ones.
At the moment right now, i only got 3 Packs after the release of Dark Moon Faire.
This is not much.
And i didnt even got this much gold, cause of the packs on the track.
Hope you all didnt get this wrong but i think, blizzard may stole more than 3000 golds or more. They stole our Free Way to Get everthing when we want it. And this is the biggest issue i can see on the NEW system.
Yeah the first level ups give me 1300 Gold. But to be honest, with the level ups that become more and more xp expensive, it will be harder to get more gold.
I even buy the pass for the nice new skins of Annhylde or the Jaina and Thrall Skins. But i am sad that these are the only ones we get.
For 20 Bucks its about 7 Skins + a gold Skin and a golden Dark Moon Guy. This is not okay, because other games give you more than this. Why no Arena Tickets? or MORE Gold for level ups? Like: 100 for the free way, and 200 for the payed way. I mean this would likely make everyone want to get the Pass.
Whats your most LOST in the new System?
Did you Enjoy Hearthstone dispite of the new System?
Greetings from Germany
[I am sorry when i do make big mistakes in english grammar or the right typing of words. its not my mother language.]
A new Rare Rogue Minion, Prize Plunderer, has been revealed! [cardimg rating]10334[/cardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Madness at the Darkmoon Faire Head on over to our …
A new Rare Rogue Minion, Prize Plunderer, has been revealed!
Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!
Head on over to our dedicated guide for Madness at the Darkmoon Faire!
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If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
A new Legendary Neutral Minion, C'Thun, the Shattered, has been revealed! [cardimg rating]10024[/cardimg] [cardimg size=180]Body of C'Thun[/cardimg] [cardimg size=180]Eye of C'Thun[/cardimg] [cardimg size=180]Heart of C'Thun[/cardimg] [car…
A new Legendary Neutral Minion, C'Thun, the Shattered, has been revealed!
Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!
Head on over to our dedicated guide for Madness at the Darkmoon Faire!
This section contains affiliate links.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
I saw a post somewhere that you can already finish some of the achievements for Darkmoon Faire, even it´s not launched yet and you don´t have specific Legendaries or cards. I can confirm you can manage to complete some of them,…
I saw a post somewhere that you can already finish some of the achievements for Darkmoon Faire, even it´s not launched yet and you don´t have specific Legendaries or cards. I can confirm you can manage to complete some of them, if you meet the requirements, but I believe you can only complete them in Ranked mode.
For example, I´ve "accidentally" completed Paladin´s "Lothraxion´s Ballon Shop" just by playing Steward of Darkshire and summoning some dudes with HP or Muster for Battle, Lost in the Jungle... you get the idea. Or you can try it reversed, summon Dudes and use Coghammer or Purifier's Maul on them, I think it should work either way.
Others mention easy completion of Hunter´s "Ride together, Die together" by simply triggering Toxic Reinforcements, or copying the second deathrattle minion on board.
I´m sure there are more, I didn´t have much time to check them out, but if you found out some others, that can be completed now, please share them, so we can gain some sweet XP :)
EDIT: We´ve found another one: Shaman´s "Two Punch Man" is doable with Doomhammer and 2x Rockbiter Weapons, or with any super huge DH attack.
Another to achieve: You can complete the two neutral achievements "Yogg take the wheel" and "Wheel of Misfortune" by playing Casual Duels with mage when you are offered a loot with the new Yogg and manage to play him (The second one needs to be done 3 times with three different outcomes, but it´s not that hard to pull off).
People on Reddit did the calcs.. the rewards are not the same, Everything that is wrong: -The exp per game played is pathetic - The rewards are less than they used to be -Pack rewards are terrible (Specially year of the dragon packs.. at l…
People on Reddit did the calcs.. the rewards are not the same,
Everything that is wrong:
-The exp per game played is pathetic
- The rewards are less than they used to be
-Pack rewards are terrible (Specially year of the dragon packs.. at level 45...)
-The tavern pass is not part of the preorder
-Blizzard makes content creators to shut up about it or ELSE (this is the worst part tbh..)
I will let zeddy talk:
I am hovering over that uninstall button.. not china.. not other controversies done it. not the fact that I was barely playing anymore anyway.. this.. is just the last straw I was expecting this system hoped it would be awesome and all.. but nope it's a big slap in the face!
My go to card game is gonna be LoR from now on, was for a while anyway, see you there.
Edit: uninstalled the game.
I did not get a Daily Quest today. All I have is a small red space telling me I have another 17 hours until I get a new Daily Quest. On Tuesday I did not clear out a new spot for a Daily Quest from the three full spots because the new fou…
I did not get a Daily Quest today. All I have is a small red space telling me I have another 17 hours until I get a new Daily Quest.
On Tuesday I did not clear out a new spot for a Daily Quest from the three full spots because the new four-spot UI made me think I could carry four Quests at a time (Feedback: Not great UI, Blizz). Did this somehow cause it? I then cleared my Quests on Wednesday, then completed the one Daily Quest I received yesterday. When I logged in this morning, all I had was that red empty spot--no new Quest.
Is this part of the new system that I hadn't heard about (Daily Quests aren't actually Daily)? Or is this a bug? Is this even the right place for me to post this?
Greetings here! I'm here to present you my version of how I would change the Neutral Core Set. I'm back at doing these, and this may be the last one, as it's just Neutrals left. This time, as I'm mentioning again, I'm going to end my proj…
Greetings here! I'm here to present you my version of how I would change the Neutral Core Set. I'm back at doing these, and this may be the last one, as it's just Neutrals left.
This time, as I'm mentioning again, I'm going to end my project with Neutral cards. The cards we currently have are not that bad, but a lot of them have been brushed under the rug due to powercreep, and even in the beginning of Hearthstone, some were so bad they need to be replaced. There's also room to add even more diversity to evergreen strategies. I've also added five new Basic cards to alter Demon Hunter's Golden Card distribution to be more in line with Mage and Warrior.
FYI, all cards under spoilers are only new cards or existing cards that got changed. The rest of cards that were not shown stay the same, so they don't exactly need to be exposed. Some cards or changes to them are also giggles and my guilty pleasures. Expect Da Undatakah.
Basic Set
New and Changed Cards
Core Set
New and Changed Cards - Commons
New and Changed Cards - Rares
New and Changed Cards - Epics and Legendaries
Hall of Fame
Basic Set Core Set - Commons (yes, Farseer has been forgotten by me, should've been in 3-Cost) Core Set - Rares Core Set - Epics and Legendaries
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Deck Recipes
Click on the deck you enjoy to also see, which cards that exist in the game are being replaced by cards from my changes!
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Something I can't ever decide if it's worth it or not. When running a primarily spell mage deck, is it right to coin+Incanter's flow on turn 1? Or should you save the coin and wait until turn 2? The idea being that by coining o…
Something I can't ever decide if it's worth it or not. When running a primarily spell mage deck, is it right to coin+Incanter's flow on turn 1? Or should you save the coin and wait until turn 2? The idea being that by coining on turn 1, you are giving a "coin" for all future spells. Assuming you never float mana, in theory the idea holds merit. But if you ever find yourself short of one mana, then holding the coin may be better.
Thoughts?
A new Rare Priest Minion, Nazmani Bloodweaver, has been revealed! [cardimg rating]10404[/cardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Madness at the Darkmoon Faire Head on over to…
A new Rare Priest Minion, Nazmani Bloodweaver, has been revealed!
Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!
Head on over to our dedicated guide for Madness at the Darkmoon Faire!
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If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
A new Harmony , Trusty Hierling, has been revealed! [mythcardimg rating]694[/mythcardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page! Learn more about Expansion 2 Head on over to our dedicated guide for Expansion 2!
A new Harmony , Trusty Hierling, has been revealed!
Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page!
Head on over to our dedicated guide for Expansion 2!
