So, I finally crafted Genn a couple days ago, and already I've fallen for Even Shaman. So I decided to start a thread for anything and everything Even Shaman - lists, strategies, matchups or just stories. Any insight welcome. I'm currently at 10-4 with the deck at ranks 5-4, however I rotate between two lists: one with walking fountains, corpsetakers and some extra hex action; the other with thunderheads, likkims and some extra overload cards like zap and that 4 mana BRM 'gain X attack' boy. Would love to hear from folks who run/ran either or both.

So, yeah, Even Shaman archetype. Hope this is enough to start a discussion!

Hi

   Priest left meta? only nomi in T3?

Hmm ...

  Zerek and Lazul joined for reprodu.. äh replication.

Very enjoyable to play beating metadecks.

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still testing but feels solid.

I believe you guys/gals are trying to focus on sweet new features, but could you change personal profile deck interface similar to this? So, we can filter however we like within our decks. It doesn't have to feature all, just Class and Game Mode filter should do the trick.

Note-I: Maybe it's just me but wasn't "Mage" button next to "Hunter"?

Note-II: Please, change "Is Standard" to "Game Format". It's even mentioned here, so why not change it?

Note-III: Is it possible to implement how many people viewed a deck within this page and our personal profile, similar to ones on Hearthpwn?

Small, dumb suggestion. Why not have it be “Change a Hearthstone Card” or “Rebalance a Hearthstone Card”. This might drum up more discussion about what’s too good or bad instead of just making the forum about wanted nerfs. Or that’s too similar to Card Discussion. Idk. 

Hi guys, I recently found that Zilliax cannot be discovered by Omega Assembly nor by Dr Boom Hero Power. I played warrior a lot and not a single time I see him. So, it's a know issue?

Welcome to the first MTG thread! I figured i would ask everyone what sort of Magic gave you when you began playing it. I had not played magic up until a couple months ago when i decided to give MTG:A a shot. I figure i am not the only one who has played a lot of Hearthstone but little Magic (but if i am that is ok too), but perhaps veteran players would be interested in sharing their thoughts from the past as well.

Overall i think it's pretty fun, although the deck building is much different than i am used to. The resource mechanic of lands is also quite interesting, although it can add a level of frustration if you don't actually draw enough. There are many more complex dynamics to the turn structure and how cards can interact and i think that is pretty cool. I enjoyed what i played, although sometimes it took me a while to comprehend how or why some things happened. It's interesting to observe the similarities and differences between this and hearthstone, which i have played abundantly.

The digital version is great because i don't think i could really get too into the physical version so i could finally introduce myself to this game i always here so much about. I learned a lot over several hours of playing and i definitely see what the fuss is about. It's not something i play a lot of right now, but i am dabbling and figuring out what's strong and what isn't. I seem to prefer green or black decks off the bat, green in particular because it's much easier to get lands on the field.

In terms of flavor the art and themes are great along with the flavour text. That said, i think i still prefer hearthstone in that regard simply because i can relate more to the lore and can enjoy that aspect much more. I'd also say blizzard executes the voice lines and animations better but it is definitely a different type of atmosphere so i don't expect that to be comparable, just preference. I also don't have a huge knowledge of all the different magic sets and what sort of themes they encompass, i should probably check that out one day. I'll continue playing here and there and maybe i'll get hooked on it one day, who knows, but it's definitely a good game. Hard for me to commit to too many games at once though. 

What was your first experience with MTG like?

hey guys, 

I think this is not new but with my broken mobile view (iOS - Safari) I cant search the forum for already existing threads on this topic. 

It would be nice to fix the mobile view for phones. I am not able to reach all content in the menu and there are some display errors like shredded texts or texts over borders when viewing the decks. 

Thanks a lot to the Out of Cards Team!

Whirliglider is quite similar to Bomb Toss. Replacing a 2-damage with a 2/1 minion.

While classic cards are known to be weaker than class cards, I think (and you'll agree) that this card is underpowered.

If it is to be given mech, then it would suddenly become more plausible, you'll get 2 mechs to magnetize later.

This isn't a troll thread btw xD. I need you to take this seriously, and tell me valid logical counterarguments.

So, is this enough?

I want to craft up Mech Paladin, since it's been a deck that I've been interested since Boomsday, and now that it's pretty good, I feel like it's prime time to craft it. The problem is, I'm missing the two epics: Prismatic Lens and Glowstone Technician, and I (currently) only have 1000 dust. Is it better to go for 2 of either, or 1 of both? Since with the Glowstone Technician buffs, it's now a pretty strong handbuff card, without even losing too much tempo. However, Prismatic Lens provides some much needed draw for the deck, and with all the cheap spells it can reduce the cost of minions you draw. What should I craft, and what are some potential replacements I can use until I get the cards? 

P.s. Also no, I'm not going to spend my dust elsewhere, so don't reply with "the deck is bad just craft token druid 4Head" please.

Not fall into the complacent lackadaisical work ethic that we had on Hearthpwn in the last few year. Content quality fell a lot in the past year.

Use this new found energy to keep the site lively and thriving. Create content continuously and not just when a news story breaks from Blizzard. You can't build a site on news alone. Articles about CCG's in addition to news would be great and more of a reason to come back. Inspire discussions and interest. DIg deeper into the games beyond just pasting Blizzard press releases and have actual articles about the games. So many topics that can be explored beyond nerfs and new cards. It will get people more involved in the site and coming back often. A great model is 'Blizzard Watch' and what they do and they are a successful website that was created from a corporate entity shutting 'WoWInsider' down.

Hey all, I just wanted to ask how many golden legendaries have you got from packs in the whole time you've played the game. I personally started playing in 2016 when Old Gods came out and since, I've opened only ONE golden legendary - Lilian Voss. My friend, who's played for the same amount of time as me and we open roughly the same amount of packs, has already opened between five to ten golden legendaries (I can't remember exactly how many). What are your numbers? Is he really lucky or am I really unlucky? Where's the truth? Post below!

I would like to share an opinion towards the division in content offered on the homepage. I think forum threads should be more visible, in the main menu as well as the main layout of the homepage.

I understand why decks and cards are so important, but I think the returning members value threads a lot. There are no notifications as of now, which makes having to search for the thread a lot of work (unless I'm missing something).

I have no idea what pages are being visited most, so it might be done this way because of SEO/user-friendly reasons. If so, please ignore my reasoning. I just think it can be visible more.

Hi

I liked the filter system there was on Hearthpwn. I would like to see the same there, as well as the ability to choose AND/OR connector between filters (and therefore the possibility to make filter groups). Advanced filtering capabilities are very useful for fan card makers (to compare stats and such). I know the regular HS player won't need those but they aren't forced to use it. I still think the current mono-choice system is too restrictive even for a regular player.

Also, choices in the expansion list can't be de-selected. There should be a "--------" option like other select bars.

A while back I randomly had the thought - could Hearthstone add 0 health minions into the game?

I immediately thought that it's actually impossible, but on second thought - it could have a deathrattle? But that idea sounds pretty stupid imo.
Why make a card that needs to instantly die when being played?

I thought again and wondered if these types of minions would work if they had a magnetic effect?
That'd remove the problem of them instantly dying, but then again, another magnetic card that will probably be used to hit the opponent's face is probably a bad idea.

What are your thoughts? :)

So, I'm a fan of the fun and crazy variety of characters in Warcraft lore, and messing around with them in card form is one of the main reasons I play this game. Everything from human knights to lovecraftian old gods to robots is fair game for these characters. That being said, a lot of well-known characters have yet to make an appearance in Hearthstone. What lore characters do you think are overdue for an appearance in hearthstone, and would you rather see them as a Legendary or a hero?

We got no new tribes since Un'goro and I think it would be nice to have new ones. Lets speculate what tribes should be added to Hearthstone and what we may see in the future

I can see three potential tribes

1) Plants. We have tons of plants in druid as well as several neutral plants.
2) Oozes (there are quite a fey slimes\oozes in wild, including stuff that generates slimes\oozes. Standard currently has 4 (acdic\underbelly ooze, floop, 1\1 token generated by the 2/4 rogue mech) 
3) Ghosts (There are enough ghosts\spirits\phantoms\shades\wisp to make them a tribe. Cards like cursed castaway and arfus are a problem)

Hi all, as title really. 

 I have been trying to figure out how to add Screen caps from my phone to Threads here and I can't seem to figure it out. Am I getting old? 🤔

 If anyone can shed some light on this I'd be grateful. 

Hello beautiful people of out of cards :)

So I got a doppelgangster buff 3 times in bob's tavern.

One to reduce it costs to 0.

One to buff it +2/+2

One so it starts in my hand everygame.

I was happy to start each game with 3 4/4 for 0 mana :D

But I only get 1 4/4 and 2 2/2

Why is that? Is that a bug?

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By now, everyone and their mother knows about hearthpwn's fate. So, most of us have migrated here, to out of cards. 

At first, the site seemed mediocre at best; I was having trouble scrolling down and using some features, but it is getting better every day.

Keep it up, moderators, you guys are doing great. I hope this site grows to the size of hearthpwn, and beyond!

I almost like this site even more than hearthpwn, for a few reasons:

1) No pop up ads. It has gotten so bad recently on hearthpwn, that I can barely do anything before I become a 'SUPER LUCKY WINNER!!!' You have no idea how good it feels to be able to browse forever on this site without stupid things coming up!

2) works MUCH better on mobile. If I am ever using this site or hearthpwn, I am 99% of the time on my phone, whether I be on my commute, or just waiting for something to happen. On hearthpwn, once in a while, I would be looking at people's profiles out of pure curiousity, and I would accidentally hit the 'collection' button. See, my phone can't handle this massive collection being loaded, and I'd often have to close the tab because it would freeze trying to load the collection. Thank God there's no innkeeper on this site :)

Well I apologise for writing a book, but I really wanted to voice my opinion on this new site. Keep up the good work guys, and long live Out of Cards!

Hi Flux and all the crew, I just switch from hrtpwn. Please change the color format of your site, please. White text over a dark backgroud really kill the eyes, I could not be able to visit the site if it stay this way. I already push my eyes over the limit just to create this. 

Best of luck in any case.

Hey guys,

Does anyone else feel like Blizzard really missed a chance by having the same final 4 bosses every time on the final wing? When I first heard that the wing's gimmick would be 4 additional encounters, I figured it would work just like the other wings, just giving you more crazy bosses and time to build a crazy deck. However, it seems like the final 4 bosses are the same every time. One of the best things about this adventure is the great variety between all the bosses, and I feel like having the final bosses be the same every time reduces the replayability. Also, the fact that they are all Mages makes it even worse. What are your thoughts?

I'm seeing a lot of topics being created here, which is great of course, but I wonder how many might be duplicates asking for / reporting the same thing or nearly the same thing? There is no way to see if what you're asking hasn't already been requested or reported.

So my suggestion is to create a sticked topic in this forum where you show the list of most requested features that have already been noted and bugs that have been reported. That way people can quickly check that list and see if their feature request or bug report has already been made. Not everyone is going to read it but hopefully it'll help filter out the duplicates.

As for feature request mine is:

Have an option to show the card images in the Cards section. For me that has always been the easiest way to quickly browse multiple cards. The cards themselves show all their information so it seems like a good way to display a list of cards.

And my bug report:

If you use Shift + Enter in the text editor, then (on my Firefox at least) you can't use the Spacebar anymore. It won't add a space in the text. Could be underlying HTML or something with the editor itself. Shift + Enter is what I use in certain text editors to avoid unneeded space between lines, though I'm not sure if that matters on this forum.

on mobile, decks are not that important, i think.

on mobile i'm mostly here for news and the forums.

Hi all, popping my OOC cherry here, so go easy...

I was just wondering what people's experience of archivist elysianna is in control warrior. I unpacked her last weekend and crafted the last few epics I needed to make the deck and have been having a lot of fun with it, but I've been a bit disappointed in the performance of elysianna. It seems like most games end before fatigue, so I rarely have cause to use her, which is a shame  as the idea of having to quickly draft a new deck at the end of a game seems like a lot of fun.

I just wanted to know what other players' experience of the deck has been. How often do you actually play elysianna? Are there circumstances in which you use her not just as an anti-fatigue tool (eg vs bomb warrior, etc)? Or, if you don't run her, do you feel it makes much of a difference to your win rate? 

Love to hear your thoughts :)

Let's be frank, MTGA is a whole new beast and as such, deserved another OOC entirely for it. Do you guys think you'll ever have men power to launch a robust MTGA Section here? With all it deserves: meta reports, decks, articles, guides, etc? Or is OOC destined to a "mmochampion" fate, to have MMO in the name but be actually a gigantic WoW fan site?

I mean, I love HS, it's my old wife by MTGA is my new 18yo lover so... Thirsty for more!

The forum MTGA section is dead... I wrote 3 posts including a new thread and almost a week later, not a single reply.