I know most of you guys havent even heard of this card before and proably none of you heard of this card since the changes made to it.

What it does is that it gives a unit a buff permanently  and gives the same buff to every copy on the board or created in the future.

In the latest patch riot decided that it was too rarely played and that doubling the effect (+2/+2 from +1/+1) for a higher cost would make the card more reasonable.

But as a compensation they nerfed it's speed from Burst to slow.

What was riot's problem with the card?

-It was very niche and therefore rarely played

- for them the card felt too unimpactful to justify playing it in a deck

Why will it always be a niche card?

The buff provided by the spell i quite small for it's cost (3 mana for +1+1 or 5 mana for 2+2+) so that if you affect only 1 unit by it its not good at all, affecting 2 units makes it okish but not good eighter and it starts getting really strong with 3 unit+ profiting from it's effect.

That makes it a exclusive card for token/ clone decks because you never will consistantly pull 3 copies of a minion anywhere else. (outside of 10 copy drafted expansion decks)

given that the majority of token decks use other ways to temporarily buff their tokens (because it is cheaper and higher tempo) and that you need to play around it, iceborn lagacyBADCARDNAME is easily skipped by most players

So why is the change so bad in my opinion?

Short: it didnt fix the niche situation of the card and made it even unattractive for decks using it

Long: The spell is usually used on token/cloned minions (like spiders) that are all low health and therefore are easy to remove.

Since the legacy is now a slow spell you run a huge risk that your spell gets cancelled by any type of creature removal or simply deny, destroying your deck's winconditon.

That scenario is very likely and COMPLETELY kills the card's and the deck's viability and will lead to even lower playrates of them.

It now is an card that is exclusively for expeditions and even there it will only be used to support decks that draft 10 copies of the same unit card (what should not be a thing in first place)

So lets revert the Changes or make it burst speed again (for 6 mana)

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Title pretty much says it all.  I have 8 HS accounts and all have a bunch of dust.  I have Leroy's on a couple names but I am wondering if  this would be the thing to do... Craft Golden versions of Leroy, get 3200 dust right back, then (On some of my names) just disenchant that for 1600 more. 

This would net me 4800 free dust am I wrong?

So I got it 2 or 3 months ago.  I quite enjoyed the pace of growing your collection, you don't get handed everything asap, but you also grow at a very steady pace.  You can cast things at different spell speeds to have windows of interaction like MTG, but the pace of the game didn't suffer for it.  Game aesthetics are on point, it feels well made and well polished.

But the immediate issue I ran into was 95% of my opponents were playing basically the same thing every game: Aggro.

- Elise + Fearsome

- Noxus free damage vomit

- Elusive + Autofill

- Aggro Champion with Quick Attack + Autofill

- Usually some fusion of two of the above

This meant I could literally only ever play Shadow Isles + Stuff myself, because Black Spear was a painful necessity against all the constant aggro swarms, Shadow Isles also has some of the only good card draw to dig with, and even Grasp of the Undying (which is overcosted) was also kind of necessary.

Doesn't help that, on top of this, the "control" deck's cheese of choice with Heimdinger and Karma also pretty much required a cheap 3 damage spell so you could cast 2 removals in a turn, or just get overrun by their endless value.  And "answer me or basically lose immediately" gameplay is VERY polarizing and not fun.  Any delay means too much damage or too many generated cards for the opponent, and you'll lose to THAT even if you find an answer after a short delay.

ALL OF THIS COULD BE ADDRESSED WITH MORE CHEAP CONDITIONAL REMOVAL OPTIONS.

Instead they nerf Black Spear.  It was already balanced and difficult to utilize without filling your deck with a bunch of 1-cost garbage which already can't block Fearsome, can't block Elusive, and is too weak to even BE called a roadblock against the Aggro decks.

So now literally only Culling Strike exists to deal with SOME of the overwhelming number of Aggro cards, and it doesn't work on several.  Noxian Guillotine is worthless because you can't EVEN do damage in the early game at all to units with Fearsome and Elusive going unblocked or Quick Attack not taking damage on attack.  Most games just degenerate into a game of chicken between who can vomit the most Elusive+Fearsome cards or some overpowered Champion like Zed not being immediately answered, starting at "only" 6 damage per turn for 3 and ramping up after.

Legends of Runeterra was already plagued by Aggro being overpowered, Combo being overpowered, and Control pretty much not existing.  For an online card game that FINALLY offered some promise of Mutually Interactive Gameplay (without the toxicity of unlimited value Planeswalkers), instead windows of interaction are being closed.  Almost every low-cost Champion in this game now cannot be meaningfully interacted with, Elusive and Fearsome based aggression is even more dominating, and decks have even less variety in builds and gameplay than before because CONTROL isn't allowed to exist to balance the meta.  (And even on Control's end, I don't want an unlimited value engine like Heimerdinger to exist in his current state either.  That's the SAME issue MTG has.  The card goes a minimum of 2 or 3 for 1 if he even gets answered or just oppressively wins without an immediate answer.)

There's no decisions or variety in deck-building or gameplay.  You play Aggro of some flavor and vomit cards at the opponent and whoever can vomit harder wins.  I don't care that there's 4 or 5 flavors of THE SAME EXACT THING WITH THE SAME FUNDAMENTAL GAMEPLAY, it's still the same deck with the same playstyle.  Vomit difficult-to-block guys, go aggro.  Mostly, it's just whichever aggro deck in the aggro mirror draws more of their unanswerable aggro Champions first and can attack with them first to snowball the game.  Some combat tricks can shift this but those are again just standard aggro cards for standard aggro decks.

Do I really care if it's Shadow Isles, Noxus, Ionia, or Demacia?  Nope.  It's all the same deck doing the same thing.

And that's why I want to put the game down.  It has a fun core, it has promise.  But it's like the developers only like Aggro and Combo and hate Control, like the usual kids in other card games who whine whenever anything Control based is viable.  Instead of playing better, balancing threat output, not overextending, finding ways to increase value generation... these kinds just whine that the other guy's Control cards need nerfs.  It's a childish way to play, wanting to treat the game like a singleplayer race and then complaining that you hit a speedbump instead of asking what you could do to play around your opponent.  And it's a childish and self-defeating way to build a game.

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I just do not understand. I thought that I know how this rating system works, but after this I am not so sure... Does it make any sense to get into a match in which I lose rating even if I win?

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I'm thinking about an easy(ish) way to tidy up https://outof.cards/forums/recent-threads  because right now it has over 90% of the threads from card discussions,making everything else harder to read.

In short, put all (recent?) threads from a specific forum under something similar to the spoiler tag (like a dropdown with a short arrow on the right; clicking on said arrow expands the recent threads from the specific category/forum).

This way we can choose what recent threads to look at. Of course, this can be expanded to show at most X number of recent threads from each forum (when the dropdowm is expanded), to maybe include inner paging (or simply keep it like right now and, when clicking on page 2 simply allow the users to see the next X threads from each forum).

I have 3 copies of all Demacia Champions, and Demacia is my active road.

I just opened a platinum chest at level 18, and one of the capsules upgraded to Champion. I figured the Champion would turn into shards, but no! It became my second copy of Ashe instead!

So there you have it: a Freljord Champion from a Demacia chest when no more Demacia Champions are needed.

"swap 2 allies"  

What does this mean?

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I just run into this in one of the facebook groups I am in, original credits for this goes to someone called jesserese

Just have a look at the 3rd expansion here:

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