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Out of Cards Changelog - 2020-08-26 - Decks Return to the Homepage

Whoa! It's been something crazy like 8 months since we removed decks from the homepage of Out of Cards. Today, that changes. New Features Homepage Decks Widget Quite possibly the most complicated system we have on the site so far. …

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Whoa! It's been something crazy like 8 months since we removed decks from the homepage of Out of Cards. Today, that changes.

New Features

Homepage Decks Widget

Quite possibly the most complicated system we have on the site so far.
Here's how it works:
- The current "game" that you have active is what decks will display by default.
- Decks will show, by default, "Week" timeframe and "Hot" sorting with only decks that include a written guide.
Here's the planned update for Friday:
- Adding the ability to customize your defaults.
  - Did you look at some Runeterra news but you only want to see Hearthstone decks? No problem.
  - Do you want to default to Hearthstone Wild Paladin decks? You go!
- All the sorting options available now will be able to be saved as your own preferences.
Dev Notes
- I wanted a more visual approach with icons for Classes and Regions for their respective games, but the interesting issues with cross-platform and cross-device features were prohibitive. Also, Demon Hunter can rot in hell for having such a long name that is tough to design around. I believe it looks cleaner without them all out in the open, at the sacrifice of extra clicks if you want to quickly check multiple classes/regions out. This might be updated in the future to make class selections easier.
- And on the note of class selections, I already know a request is going to be written somewhere that asks we allow you to customize the filters with something such as "Paladin and Druid decks". This might be a feature enhancement down the line. I'm not making any promises right now though.

Changes

Hearthstone

Collection Manager now has a "bulk remove" button.
- Hit save after using bulk remove to update your collection on the site.
- This is an easy way to reset your collection back to square one, or reverse an accidental "bulk adds".

Runeterra

Collection Manager now has a "bulk remove" button.
- Hit save after using bulk remove to update your collection on the site.
- This is an easy way to reset your collection back to square one, or reverse an accidental "bulk adds".

Bug Fixes

Runeterra

Fixed LoR deck codes not generating codes when Targon cards were present.
Corrected dropdowns available in the Collection Manager.
Fixed an issue where the Collection Manager wouldn't let you remove single copies of a card.

Upcoming

Next Update: Filtering by game for recent forum threads.
Early September: MTG Arena Database and Decks support
- If it wasn't for Hearthstone and Runeterra being so active this month, it would have arrived.

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Hearthstone • Posted by Neoguli • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago •

Fan Creations

Neoguli's Custom Shaman Core Set Changes

Greetings there! I'm here to present you my version of how I would change Shaman's Core Sets. I'm jumping the bandwagon a bit with the changes after seeing some other people trying their reworks and generally accepting classes may need som…

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Greetings there! I'm here to present you my version of how I would change Shaman's Core Sets. I'm jumping the bandwagon a bit with the changes after seeing some other people trying their reworks and generally accepting classes may need some updates.

This time, I've put crossfire onto Shaman. While it's very hard to actually do them, please don't think I'm going to make changes for literally every class, altough if I get bored, I might do in near future. Also chose Shaman this time, because they need some refreshment in their cards.

Strengths and Weaknesses

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Strengths
- Burst - Shamans strike you twice with lightning.
- Minions - Shamans ahve a lot of minions, especially their befriended Elementals, Murlocs and Totems.
- Buffs - Elementals empower you.
- Removal - Shaman can wipe your board like a hurricane.
- RNG - Nature is unpredictable.
Limitations
- Card Generation - Shamans can call the ancestros to get some help.
- Survivability - Shamans can heal their wounds.
- Big Minions - Shaman usually summons smaller ones, but they can also summon larger guardians if they really expend their energy on doing so.
Weaknesses
- Jack of All Trades - Master of none. Shamans excel at a lot of stuff, but never master one thing.
- Card Draw - Shamans need preparation.

New Sets

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Basic Set

Classic Set

Explanations

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Primal Fusion - allows for evegreen Totem synergy, showcases new players that Totems are not mere minions and amplifies Shaman's buffs as their strength.

Seashore Guide - a simple Murloc buffer, but a good one at that. Makes Shaman the premiere Murloc class. Still not sure if it should be a 2/2 or a 3/2.

Molten Blast - as much as I hate to break the rule I pointed to myself when trying to include Scholomance cards into the Hunter rework, this will probably make the cut. Some may say that it limits design space due to tying the number of elementals summoned to the damage, and I do have a bit of concers too. But in the end, it can make up for strong archetypes over an extended period of time, and at it's base is stable enough.

Hot Spring Guardian - gives Shaman a decent early game bodyguard and some healing.

Earth Elemental - now with it's art reworked and with it's functionality slightly changed. It's still a solid defensive body, but it can now deal with something by attacking. It can still be nice with Ancestral Spirit like it used to, but now that combo can be more proactive.

Elementary Reaction - card draw is still needed for the class despite being its weakness, but this card combines both card draw and generation to give Shaman an evegreen tool to draw, generate value and, most importantly, have a reason to play Elemental decks.

Whirlwind Spear - gives you a weapon to control early boards. Note that damaging one of the target's neighbours does not damage you simultaneously.

Primalfin Totem - I… just want Shaman to have more evegreen Murloc synergy. It's also a Totem at the same time, contributing to Totem synergies.

Volcano - has always been a great AoE for Shaman, so they deserve it. Also shows the RNG side of Shaman more than Lightning Storm.

Thunderhead - a better Overload synergy card overall, makes playing such cards more beneficial. Also comes with the revert of its buff to better match the power level Classic Set demands.

Tornado - a silly removal tool, truly embracing Shaman's random nature. But on average, you will deal with a lot of board states at the expense of some Overload. Still not sure if ti should be here, but that is probably the problem with massive Hall of Fame rotations, just like my Rogue core set changes where I also HoF'd around 48% of their set.

Charged Hammer - embodies Shaman's burst side. It's a timely investment, but it gives you access to a good damaging tool.

Neptulon - a massive card generation tool, but Murlocs are on average not the biggest factors in swinging you the game. And still gives you a tool to get Murlocs, which cements their place in Shaman's arsenal.

Hall of Fame

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Some cards that were considered, but didn't make the cut

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Evolve - as much as this form of mechanic has become a staple for Shaman, I do not believe it's healthy to include in the core sets in any capacity. It's way too toxic.

Everyfin is Awesome - sounds fun to bolster Murloc decks even further, but it's too snowbally and limits design space.

Moorabi - ah yes, the ever so legendary Freeze Shaman. I actually thought of trying to incorporate some of it's elements, including Moorabi, into the classic set to make it work, but in the end, Shamans aren't exactly known to master ice and more known as masters of the four basic elementals - air, earth, water and fire. Also too meme.

Plague of Murlocs - debating whether this or Tornado is better to have. I wasn't particularly keen on this form of both RNG and nullifying enem boards. But tbh both cards are weird in every way.

[Hearthstone Card (Sprit Claws) Not Found] - didn't think I need to give Shaman an evegreen way to have a Spell Damage archetype. Also hard to balance due to Shaman's Hero Power.

Snowfury Giant - a solid body that rewards you for deckbuilding for heavy Overload cards, but I'm against most cost reductions in core sets. However, it could make Tornado look better, as its every instance of Overloading would contribute to this boy. xd

Surging Tempest - probably the safest 1-drop I could imagine giving to the class, but Shaman has been historically too good when they got too many good early game tools and minions.

Rain of Toads - solid, but lacked room.

Among many, many, MANY other cards…

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Hearthstone • Posted by EvilDave • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago •

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Worst quest.

Anyone else just wanna cry when you re-roll a daily quest and get Inspired?  Ugh...20 hero power uses....*sigh*

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Legends of Runeterra • Posted by Arthas • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago •

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New Targon Spell - Sunblessed Vigor

A new Common Targon Spell, Sunblessed Vigor, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]715[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Call of the Mountain Head on over to ou…

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Updates • Posted by Fluxflashor • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago •

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Out of Cards Changelog - 2020-08-25

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Legends of Runeterra • Posted by bocageaa • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago •

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Nightfall Bilgewater

Was trying to create a nightfall deck that used the warning shots and rex from bilgewater, and came up with this, what do you guys think? [runedeck]3730[/runedeck]  

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Feedback • Posted by JackJimson • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago

Is there a way to filter Recent Threads by Game?

Hi,  Is there a way to filter Recent Threads by Game? For example, for me, I only play hearthstone, but when I click recent threads, I see all the threads from the other games like Runeterra.

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Hearthstone • Posted by DoubleSummon • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago •

Arena

Arena rewards need to change

I commented on the latest news but I think this is worth the discussion.. I think arena has no real fun reason to play it, most of this OP will be a copy paste from that comment on the news article: but I reformatted parts of it to be more…

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I commented on the latest news but I think this is worth the discussion.. I think arena has no real fun reason to play it, most of this OP will be a copy paste from that comment on the news article: but I reformatted parts of it to be more readable.

https://outof.cards/hearthstone/1792-the-arena-will-keep-separate-rewards-from-hearthstones-battle-pass

What is wrong in arena? (At least for me)

I don't like that the runs take a lot of time and you needs an insane win rate to actually profit from arena, I don't feel like sitting through 12 wins only to get trice the entry fee.. the arena feels unrewarding for the time poured into them.. I didn't play arena for over 2 years and I used to play more when I didn't had many resources it's feels like a chore..

I do enjoy the gameplay but it feels like such a big time and gold commitment to play.. I just hate playing it and losing too fast or make risky picks.

The reward system is the same since beta... SERIOUSLY.

Suggested estimated rewards that would feel better:

lower the entry fee, lower the max wins, increase the reward threshold.

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entry fee:50 gold, win caps at 10 instead of 12.

0 wins you get 40 gold (so you can't reroll indefinitely)

1 win you get 70 gold worth of dust/cards/gold,

2 wins you get a pack and 20 gold worth of stuff. (the first pack is from the latest expansion)

3 wins you get a pack and 50 gold worth of stuff (3 wins is the new 7 wins, you have over 50% win rate at this point!)

4 wins you get a pack and 75 gold worth of stuff.

5 wins it's 2 packs and 20 gold worth of stuff. (the second pack can be anything even a yearly pack!)

6 wins you get 2 packs and 70 gold worth of stuff.

7 wins it's 3 packs the third is also random + a chance of a cosmetic.

8 wins you get 3 packs + a guaranteed golden rare + random reward worth 20 gold + a chance of a cosmetic.

9 wins you get 3 packs + a guaranteed golden rare + random reward worth 80 gold + chance of an epic + a chance of a cosmetic.

10 wins you get 3 packs + a guaranteed golden epic + random reward worth 100 gold + 50 gold + a chance of a cosmetic.

I just threw numbers and rewards but something that will be exciting to earn and not just.. "value" it feels bad to play arena and get some value we want to get special rewards or get guaranteed rewards on good runs.. arena feels BAD to win at and feels bad to get less than 7 wins you get less than the fee.. and need insane win rates. About the cosmetics: it's not a hero skin (maybe as a rare 10 wins drop) but it's something to grind for like some alternate card art or some old card backs.. give players a good reason to play more arena the mode is fun the entry fee is discouraging and so are the rewards.

More improvements suggestions:

1.Would also enjoyed the mixture of the expansions in arena but it wasn't conveyed correctly had no idea what to play or not around there was no way in game to tell which expansions were available.. for that a new feature needs to be implemented which is a peek into the available pool just open a collection manager which shows you the expansion available and what cards are legit or not, from the draft screen no need to do in game.

2. Arena tickets as rewards from quests + exp since they are 40 gold quest for none arena players this way. people who don't want to play arena can start and exit just to get the 40 gold, it will intensify players to try arena more and experiment more.

I hope I formatted this post correctly so it's easy in the eyes.

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Legends of Runeterra • Posted by FLENTERCK • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago •

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Jugadores de LATAM

Hola al que este leyendo esto, abro foro para saber si existe algun server para jugadores de LOR de latam o si alguien le interesa la formacion de uno, seria asombroso el poder conversar del meta con jugadores de la region

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Legends of Runeterra • Posted by Arthas • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago •

Card Reveal

New Targon Spell - Messenger's Sigil

A new Rare Targon Spell, Messenger's Sigil, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]693[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Call of the Mountain Head on over to…

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Legends of Runeterra • Posted by Arthas • Updated 5 years, 2 months ago •

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New Targon Spell - Starshaping

A new Common Targon Spell, Starshaping, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]691[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Call of the Mountain Head on over to our ded…

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Legends of Runeterra • Posted by Arthas • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago •

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New Targon Spell - The Skies Descend

A new Epic Targon Spell, The Skies Descend, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]690[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Call of the Mountain Head on over to our…

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Legends of Runeterra • Posted by Arthas • Updated 5 years, 6 months ago •

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New Targon Card - The Infinite Mindsplitter

A new Epic Targon Unit, The Infinite Mindsplitter, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]689[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Call of the Mountain Head on over…

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