You don't do anything you can't do with pen and paper so it's not cheating.

Edit: dunno what happened to OP.. It's not me. 

I don't have a premium, but when I'm on the Account Management page, it says Premium Member on the top right.

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Greetings there! I'm here to present you my version of how I would change Mage's Core Sets. I'm jumping the bandwagon a bit with the changes after seeing some other people trying their reworks and generally accepting classes may need some updates.

After a long time, I've put crossfire onto Mage. While it's very hard to actually do them, please don't think I'm going to make changes for literally every class, altough if I get bored, I might do in near future. Also chose Mage this time, because while their core sets are cohesive and fulfill the fantasy, over time, some of the cards have become either problematic or obsolete. I'm also adding some new class identity to the class - mainly Dragons and RNG.

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Neoguli's Custom Core Set Changes - Control Secret Mage

Wild · Secret Mage · by Neoguli · 5 years, 3 months ago

• 1Kabal Lackeyx 2
• 1Mirror Imagex 2
• 2Apexis Smugglerx 2
• 2Frostboltx 2
• 2Novice Engineerx 2
• 3Arcane Intellectx 2
• 3Combustionx 2
• 3Frost Novax 2
• 3Ice Barrierx 2
• 3Illuminatorx 2
• 3Mana Bindx 2
• 3Mirror Entityx 2
• 4Conjured Miragex 2
• 5Curio Collectorx 2
• 6Toki, Time-Tinkerx 1
• 6Toshleyx 1

5,840 Dust 736 0 Copy Deck Code

It was stated at the end of competition 1.20 that you guys were looking at starting season 2 around the mid expansion time, are there any updates on a more specific date for it?

What's up everyone! Just dropping in with the new cards - and a video that I was SUPER excited to make because DAMN I've been waiting a while for these cards to be revealed! lol If you wanna check out the video which has all of the cards in the keyword, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXjesiynBSE

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I've tried a lot of different versions, some that are more midranged with Dragon synergies, some that are more aggressive with lots of 1-drops, but I keep finding that they just don't cut it. They're not fast enough to be consistent against control decks, and the other classes that support aggro and tempo decks are often better at it, so if you don't have a 1-drop into Power Word: Feast as your opening play, you're often dead in the water. Relying on getting at least one cheap buff in your opening hand has been a struggle.

https://imgur.com/a/N9sRhcN

Anyone else think Maokai and Nautilus is to easy to complete?

Often enough they can simply stall until turn 7-8 thanks to multiple removal spells, and the small costed units that are also very beneficial towards their core strategy completion and it heals them.

Then turn 8-9 sometimes as early as turn 7 as in this instance your either dead or have to trade in most of your board towards overstatted minions which means your most likely gonna lose next turn.

And if that doesn't occur your deck being obliterated before you have even reached turn 10 also does the trick.

Only way my decks really are able to beat em is if i either play hyper aggro and kill em before Nautilus comes down or they are extremely unlucky and neither draw Maokai and Nautilus.

Otherwise all my other slower decks are basically insta-lose.

First of all, this is not a salt thread about aggro decks. I know everybody enjoys different types of decks and I am not the one to judge. However, I do not enjoy aggro decks. I don't want games to end on turn 5, I don't want my highest cost card to be a 4 mana card. I want to play expensive cards, I want to control the board, I want to assemble my win condition and I want big swing turns. I am a control/combo player, that is what I enjoy about hearthstone.

Last expansion was the first time I generally experienced fatigue and stopped playing for a couple of weeks. The introduction of demon hunter and how blatantly overpowerd basically all of their cards were and how it was a stupid strong deck even after 10+ cards got nerfed just tilted me so much that I could not enjoy the game anymore. 

Then the new expansion came and I got excited again, so many cool new legendaries with unique effects, but also a lot of veeeeryyy strong tools for aggro(a better jeeves, really?). I jumped into the first day, opened my packs, crafted some exciting cards and went right in and it was so fun. I played highlander warrior and priest, ripper warrior, control-soulshard-warlock, paladin paladin and more. Druid seems stupid again with all the ramp but that is nothing new. Besides that I had a lot of fun the first couple of days. Paladin paladin also seems very strong but not op and I saw loads of different decks and archetypes. But after a couple of days, the thing that always happens happened. Aggro came through. Suddenly a majority of players started playing aggro rogue, hunter or druid, all petty much the same lists and they are very strong. The reload they gave rogue is insane(1 mana draw 5 seems like a good idea, right?) , token druids win condition has been savage roar for years and I am sick of it and even hunter has so much card draw and value generation, that it seems impossible to outvalue/outlive them with any type of control deck.

It just seems there is no place for control decks any more, and if you want to play a combo deck you better combo your opponent to death before turn 7 or you are just dead. Which means you gotta play druid and that just feels like tossing a coin to me.

I want to know how you feel, has anyone made similar experiences? What do you do to still enjoy the game? Or is hearthstone just not the right game for me anymore? 

So I've personally been feeling a little burned out on LOR

This being the result of several factors.

1. A fairly established meta game, which I will include here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqHMDLe5Ldk

2. Running into a lot of made hand scenarios for every single deck - aka opponent card draw simulator

3. Less people willing to run synergistic low tier and exciting lists

4. Having all the cards

5. A distinct impression that others aren't enjoying the game anymore - aka speed chess

6. Slow roll or value plays being generally phased out for pure tempo

So if you guys have any ideas on how to keep things fresh until the expansion I'd love to hear it

Hey guys thought i would upload some of the decks ive been refining since release day. Please upload yours if you wish.

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really fun great against control, would love some feedback on this one

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a bit draw dependent but hilarious if you get good starting hand. good against decks who like clearing your board turn after turn

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another hurt me deck but my own take on it that i theorycrafted two weeks ago

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really good against druid and other decks that cant deal with big minions

so thats it please show me your fun decks from SA

Hope this is the right section/anyone could help me.

When I start the Hearthstone app on my smartphone, it goes smooth and everything. After the time required to play 2/3 game, it starts lagging; restarting the app, makes Hearthstone go smooth until it starts to lag again.

It started doing this like a month ago, but I have no idea how to solve this. Does anyone have any advice?

My smartphone is a Xiaomi Mi 9T btw.

Thank you in advance

It's clear now that blizzard will never nerf the rez mechanic, a mechanic in wild that is so abused and annoying to play against, yet so easy to pilot that a lot of people are still playing it even now. And it's clear there is no stopping it, since bliz is even now releasing cards like Raise Dead and Vectus for the neverending bullshit that is Convincing Infiltrator spam. And i have gotten tired of trying to voice my opinion about it just to hear people tell me it's fair and balanced and fun to play against just because it's their favorite deck to play in wild. So i'm just going to make this thread three times a year, or until the mechanic is fixed.

What is this thread you ask? Well a year ago there was a deck:

Big Priest Murder Simulator

Wild · Control Mage · by Morkimus · 6 years, 7 months ago

• 1 Gravelsnout Knight x 2
• 1 Saronite Taskmaster x 2
• 1 Weasel Tunneler x 1
• 2 Arcanologist x 2
• 2 Flamecannon x 2
• 2 Primordial Glyph x 2
• 3 Arcane Intellect x 2
• 3 Conjurer's Calling x 2
• 3 Counterspell x 2
• 3 Forgotten Torch x 2
• 3 Marsh Drake x 2
• 3 Polymorph: Boar x 2
• 3 Potion of Polymorph x 2
• 4 Polymorph x 2
• 6 Sylvanas Windrunner x 1
• 8 Marin the Fox x 1
• 9 Frost Lich Jaina x 1

7,400 Dust 9,447 12 Copy Deck Code

Okay that's enough of my rambling, here's where you come in, i will be testing these changes out myself but other opinions are always welcome :)

Potential additions by expansion:

Saviors of Uldum:

Reno the Relicologist

Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron(?)

Zephrys the Great(potential highlander possibility in wild. zephrys can get Cabal Shadow Priest early)

Golden Scarab(potentially more Polymorph)

Descent of Dragons(and Galakrond's Awakening):

Malygos, Aspect of Magic(mainly for Malygos's Polymorph, but eight damage from Malygos's Flamestrike wouldn't be bad either or even Malygos's Intellect for draw)

The Amazing Reno POOF

Ashes of Outland:

Evocation(potentially more Polymorph)

Magtheridon(i would never craft this card for this deck, but it does make sense for the matchup.)

Infectious Sporeling(sounds good but probably doesn't work, priest has removal for things like this)

Terrorguard Escapee(one of the new cards for this deck. Mostly an excuse as to why they haven't nerfed the rez mechanic, but it could work nicely)

Scholomance Academy:

Devolving Missiles(potentially not good enough, but i'll try it out.)

[Hearthstone Card (Lorekeeper polkelt) Not Found](basically freeze mage, play polkelt topdeck blizzard freeze them out for an OTK, Just keep telling yourself the whole time, that running Mindrender Illucia in a rez deck is bad deck design and don't be too upset when they play it anyway.)

Sphere of Sapience(tutor for polymorph effects)

If there's anything i missed let me know, but i think i got pretty much everything. In closing rez priest is not a hard opponent to beat with the right deck, just about any control deck with [Hearthstone Card (chef gnomi) Not Found], and enough removal can beat it. But this deck isn't designed for that. It's designed to make the rez priest feel bad they picked that deck to play. It wants to make them question every mage they see might be the unwinnable matchup. To make the priest stop joining games with their rez deck and think they've won on turn one because they had Convincing Infiltrator and two Resurrect in their mulligan. It's for that reason. If you have a similar deck let me know i'm down to check it out!

I decided to leave my impressions and thoughts about these first few days of the expansion and an analysis of the legendary cards i've got. The thread is long so bear with me.

Glide is a card that i despised upon first glance. I mostly play slow decks and it looked like something designed to completely screw over with them in aggro DH which is supposed to be weak to Control decks. I only played against two DH with Glide so far. The meta isn't favorable for the card but it's awful if you are trying to keep resources in hand. They vomit everything on their hand and then they play this and refill their hand while discarding yours (it's not true discard but it feels like that). It may not be as op as i thought but it's as anti-fun as i thought. 

I got Lorekeeper Polkelt from the bundle and i've been testing him mostly in highlander decks. It's an interesting card that has its uses but it can be a liability as well. You can play him one turn before you get to your big cards and you are guaranteed to draw them on the next turn. I have used it to have Dinotamer Brann consistently in my hand by turn 7 but if you don't draw Polkelt in time then he just becomes useless. Also, he's bad for specific card combinations. I've been testing Professor Slate in the deck as well and it's not good to have both him and/or Rapid Fire at the bottom of your deck. Polkelt is a little tricky to use properly and not as much of a meta breaker as people thought.

Speaking of Professor Slate, that's a card i haven't seen at all. Not in ladder, not in videos, absolutely nothing. I decided to test the card and it's quite good. Hunter doesn't lack hard removal. In fact, they have a lot of it right now with both Slate and Krolusk Barkstripper joining his arsenal alongside Deadly Shot and Rotnest Drake. The key difference is that Slate isn't random. You can choose your destruction target and that's relevant against wider boards. The problem is the lack of good spells to use with the card. Rapid Fire is good with Slate and... pretty much nothing else. Well, there's Vereesa Windrunner but nobody uses her so... Yeah. Besides that, we have Explosive Shot and Multi-Shot. These are not good enough. There will be people making the atrocious mistake of running into an Explosive Trap before removing Slate but i can't really count secrets as those are very easy to play around. In the end, the card lacks proper support but he can easily become great with a decent and cheap Multi-hit/AoE spell (like Grievous Bite in Wild).

Mindrender Illucia is another card that's really hard to utilize properly. She is mostly good for disrupting combos but those are extremely rare because the ladder is full of aggro decks. In my experience, she isn't great in control or midrange games because even if you waste your opponent's resources they can do the same to you. You don't want to play her with your big cards in hand and if you wait too much then there won't be much left to disrupt. In aggro games you can actually use her more effectively because your opponent is mostly holding low cost cards and you are holding high cost cards. If you play her early you can screw them and they won't be able to do much with your hand. Overall, she is another card that's really tricky to play with and she gives me the tech card vibe. 

The meta isn't great on my end as i'm facing Druid all the time. There are a lot of Face Rogues (ugh...) and all sorts of Hunter decks as well. I rarely see Paladins and Warriors and not much else. Druids tend to fall apart pretty quickly against any aggression. However, it's undeniable that Lightning Bloom is a liability and it's just going to cause problems for the remainder of the year and the next one. Secret Passage is also pretty ridiculous. Voracious Reader is only good in extreme hyper aggressive decks that vomit their hands very quickly but the card isn't very good in any deck with cards that costs 4 or more. I think it will be fine if Face DH and Face Rogue fall from the meta.

Just as i expected, Mozaki, Master Duelist is extremely difficult to utilize as she is a combo card and the ladder is infested with aggression. Combo decks just fall apart very easily because of that. So far, she seems like a big meme that's going to see play just because combo lovers will never give up on making cards like that work. Ras Frostwhisper is much better and can be slotted into Highlander Mage without any other support cards. I don't play Shaman so i don't know how he's doing in that class. Btw, Ras is the only dual class legendary i've got so far. Really unlucky.

Finally, there's Sphere of Sapience. The card is very good in specific decks. I utilize it in my Wild OTK Miracle Priest. The deck always ran into the problem of drawing my big key minions before i could play Zerek's Cloning Gallery and the weapon prevents that which greatly increased its consistency. The weapon is good in Big Warrior and Duel Paladin as well because you really want to keep the big minions in the deck so you cheat them out. Sphere is pretty good, especially in decks that want to keep certain cards inside the deck.

Edit: I completely forgot about Infiltrator Lilian. I guess that's how much i care about aggressive cards. I tried her in a Secret Passage Stealth Rogue and it was fine. The deck has a lot of damage. Self-Sharpening Sword and Vulpera Toxinblade are really strong. Sometimes i didn't even need Secret Passage to win but that card just improves the deck's consistency a lot. Drawing 5 cards for so little just leaves a ton of flexibility and you can make the most out of your mana because of it. Also, if you draw Eviscerate the combo is going to active already. Lilian itself is just okay. The guaranteed damage can make the difference occasionally but she isn't needed to play a deck like this.

So far, the expansion just feels okay. There's some big mana cheat shenanigans happening (mostly because of Lightning Bloom but High Abbess Alura also contributes to the issue), lots of aggro decks, combo decks dying to aggro decks (as always) and Control decks seem to be AFK (at least, i haven't seen a lot of them). Let's see what's going to happen next week. Any thoughts? Thanks for reading!