Megam0gwai is back on LoR streaming, planning to do the Runeterra Open in 2 weeks, etc.

Apparently Snap's biggest cheerleader has jumped ship.

https://app.mobalytics.gg/lor/meta-tier-list

So low and behold I'm browsing current standard tier list to admire the shit show.

What do I see in A tier.

Illoi Jarvan a deck that hasn't been popular since initial release and that I've been playing competitively ever since.

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It's got the one of nakaboros from my list, they replaced the 3 mana buff with cataclysm thats a meta decision, and added single which again is a meta decision.

So all told they rotated two cards for strikes and jammed two copies of Riptide.

So yes better for standard where there's more agressive targets and you need 8 removal cards but Jesus this is literally just my deck and not even in the format I like.

This is getting saj guys if you're gonna steal from the king at least say so. What's next 30 days from now I look at eternal tier lists and its like copy paste 5 of my decks you run into on ladder?

So on a possitive note even though we are 30 days away from competitive I'm gonna talk about the only format I care about and that's eternal.

Specifically the decks I think got better with the last set additions. I'm gonna skip over the obvious  ones like pirate aggro, like we know this last set was huge for bilge noxious.

What else we got?

1. Star springs - pretty dope with eight punch Pablo. Providing both a good body with attune, a healing activator cuz of strike, and potentially contributing to removal efforts is amazing value for this deck. Cosmic youngling is less great but good into hyper aggro, where star springs usually suffered. So now it's do you want toad for the draw or youngling for the sustain?

2. Echo - the fact that shurima got its own version of a 4 mana tutor follower is insanely good for echo. Clocking predicts and draws and gives you that annoying little body all at once.

3. Shen - I personally believe Shen Sett is the new Shen Jarvan, or Shen Fiora once you see that interaction of Sett getting barrier on attack triggering a.cascade of effects and generally being cheaper and harder to kill then jarvan you won't go back.

4. Azir Irelia - fallen sands general is a pretty solid finisher for this deck when sometimes it feels like your deck doesn't do enough on its own and you just need that little extra late game. Not a deck I play but pretty sure you can just copy paste a list and add him.

Again, this is just the beginning for me. While a lot of players will A use old tier lists for Eternal or B meme with a dumb otk wincon I will continue to provide quality decks that win not because they are amazing but because they are well balanced and durable.

So the 3 year anniversary celebration for Runeterra is happening right now.

It's a great chance for new players to get old champions, and for established players to get free currency.

One problem though Nora and Bard are essentially unplayable in standard.

In eternal they are solid cards bard can turbo buff elusives with Zoe, and Nora can easily slot into grindy control decks with her infinite board value.

It's just another case out of 10,000 why Runeterra standard is less a "format" for an established game and more a quick trimming of the card pool to keep a small subsect of players happy while screwing the long term fans who helped it reach 3 years in the first place.

Here's a 3 year anniversary idea, we are making eternal ladder ever green to support the player base the helped make our game great

There's an announcement I can get behind.

Don't get me wrong casual eternal is amazing but winning every game does nothing for me, when it should be just as valuable as it is in standard.

Yep, read the title.

I’m at diamond 9 trying to hit 5 for the free pack and every other game is still either a Blood or Frost DK. Blizzard needs to bite the bullet at this point and just restrict discovery from other rune cards as well. I find it ridiculous that Blood DK, the control deck, can just start digging through Frost and Unholy rune cards for more damage/board whenever it needs it. Like what’s the point of the rune system at this point if all of the runes can just bypass their rune identities and weaknesses through Discover.

I really hope it gets better past day 1 at least, but I don’t see any new decks at all despite all of the buffs given to so many archetypes. DK needs to be brought more in line, and cards like Marrow Manipulator and The Scourge needs to get nerfed/reverted because a 5/5 with Pyroblast is just absurd, and a 7 mana spell which just completely flips the board is not okay either.

Like, good luck beating that with Thori’belor (I love this change though, thanks Blizz for making it what it should have been from the start).

I'm assuming by now the novelty of standard has worn off.

The limited deck builds and selections.

The premeditated leaning towards pro-players and number crunching vs creativity and memes.

It's all exceptionally boring and limited.

So I wonder how long till play rates drop, views drop, all the metrics people care about diminish.

Because I'm not playing, a lot of people I respect aren't playing, because we all had to wait 2 months just to play the format we like, aka eternal, aka og real Runetera.

Frankly this is unacceptable eternal ladder should have been established the minute rotation happened, anything else is just lazy.

Another 30 days to go on top of the 30 I just waited yeeeeeeah woooo how fun Riot!

Competition Theme: The Grand Almost-Finale

We're about to reach a climactic end, so it's time to make some noise!

• Make a card that uses the Finale keyword.
  • Whether this is using the mechanic itself or interacting with it in other ways is up to you.

We have reached the final quarter of Season 6, and Loknax wants us to hype it up in the most fitting way possible.

As always, we can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Apr 24 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Apr 29 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Apr 29 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Apr 30 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Apr 30 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, May 1 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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I don't know about all of you, but I have been sincerely missing the decks that were created and posted to help the community take out the achievements with the newest expansions.  Ever since I started playing TCGs in my teens with MTG, I have never been the best at creating decks.  I could pilot them well enough but the custom decks I made that were fun, let alone competitive, were few and far between. 

I looked forward to the "community" decks and walkthroughs that people were able to create to help other players get through the achievements for the rewards, and have fun exploring the possibilities with the new cards and tactics.  I know that with the exodus of key people here at Out of Cards left a hole where this was happening more on the regular... but I think that we can start putting these back together and posting them on the site. 

With that being said, has anyone had success at creating decks to help kill off some of these achievements?  I have created a few, but nothing I would say is dominating or competitive, or even getting "two birds with one stone" anymore.  The closest I have is a Shaman Totem deck I made where I included Pack the House as an E.T.C., Band Manager side board and included Melomania to "refill" my hand after dropping a bunch of low cost totems/minions.  Be damned if I can find a way to put Saxophone Soloist in there with any efficacy.

I did use Ghost Writer in most of my decks since it, in my opinion, is one of the best cards in the set.  But once I got the achievement I traded it out for another card.  What are you all playing to get these achievements done?

There wasn’t an article so I figured I’d drop a post here.  Don’t have all the details (sorry) but playhearthstone.com should.

Like:

What would you say is the rarest card in your collection. (metric: The least players own it)

For me it's most likely Golden Captain's Parrot. :D

There are so many bad legendaries I still have golden ones off, but I think the Parrot can't be earned anymore (I wish I had ETC or Gelbin :/)

IFF it should be atainable again it's most likely golden Sherazin, Corpse Flower or golden Zerek, Master Cloner

Just a reminder to everyone, prime gaming does have 3 standard packs available this time.

Competition Theme: Top Secret: The Fourced Sequel

We're keeping some more Secrets, but this time they're not held by the heroes.

• Make a card that makes a secret choice using the "Secretly" word.
  
  • Our most prominent examples of this are Blademaster Okani, Jandice Barov, and the new Rhythm and Roots.

Loknax has asked us to reboot the Top Secret series with a fourth installment. We're focusing on a different type of Secret in this one.

As always, we can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Apr 17 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Apr 22 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Apr 22 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Apr 23 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Apr 23 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Apr 24 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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So Jack one of the worst champions in standard currently actually shares new dialog with Trundle.

Now 90% of players will never experience this content, and they will never know that the new Champs were actually built with rotated Champs not only "in mind" but literally based content around their interactions.

I'm curious to see how much dialog there is with rotated Champs and new Champs, because pro players are making it sound like Riot didn't balance the new content with existing content in mind.

But clearly they did, Jack was always meant to team up with Trundle due to the massive synergy inherent between them.

Now standard players will never know this interaction was not only intended but is genuinely amazing.

Just another reason why eternal is the real LOR in a growing list of reasons.

----big rant---

I gotta be honest I'm a little pissed that pro players like Majin gutted half the game so.they can have an easy ladder climb.

Because not only have they messed with the pre-existing core experience, they literally neutered Champs pre-release!

Jack was a champion designed for Trundle and ramp, and pro players decided pre-release that this archetype was irritating and killed Jack before he could be played.

Thats balls man, that's giant fucking.balls to say stfu Riot I know you designed this champ with Trundle in mind and recorded dialog and everything but I'm pro player x y z and I think ramp is annoying.

Thats not an objective standpoint, here's an objective standpoint make eternal everygreen so I can play the game the way the devs fucking.designed it.

Jesus

In my quest to get ready for Eternal ladder I've been pre-scouting what the new set brings to existing deck interactions.

There is some insanely broken stuff here, infinite draw with tf, hyper burn aggro, and my favorite otk ramp.

What other amazing mysteries does this red headed step child format have to offer?

How will it develop long term?

And who will be the new pro players of this format?

All these secrets will be revealed in time and my God are things gonna get broken.

But I'd rather that than a standard season that gets solved in a day comprising of things that are obviously good because they survived rotation.

See you next time runeterra dragon out!

details here !

https://esports.gg/news/hearthstone/hearthstone-twitch-drops-active-this-weekend-with-solarys-festival-of-legends-celebration/

With recent patch, I just noticed Yogg-Saron, Master of Fate is buggy. Is it just me? Let me know in the comments. Here is what happened:

I played him, fortune wheel hit Curse of Flesh. Upon initiating first attack, game responded with "Too late, your turn is over." even though I had like a min remaining on my turn. I couldn't do anything until I restarted the game, which seemed to fix the issue. It happened on PC if I recall btw.

There's a bit of an ongoing trend you will see with the new Champs where their power lies in their base form more so than their level up condition.

First up is Sett - really strong as a natural upgrade on shen Fiora, because he has natural barrier built into his kit.

So its possible to challenge on the left, level shen on the attack, proc your barrier dudes to boost attack all at once, very cool.

Samara - obvious upgrade for pirate aggro, enabling you to say play a 1 drop, play Samara, and on 3 ping and play 2 plunder 1 drops which depending on your opponents deck is very hard to stop.

Jack - the problem with Jack isn't Jack, he's actually pretty decent as a card, but all of the coin support is actually in Ionia not bilgewater which makes Jack very difficult to run in a flexible way, like say ramp Jack which could be a thing otherwise.

I hate to say it but Jack should be a runeterra champion with the simple text that says I can run all coin cards, problem solved. But again you would run into rotation problems that way.

-----huge edit----

Sorry I lied jack Trundle is broken not only does ice pillar turbo level him, of you spend 12 mana on dance dance combo, it counts as 12 mana spent to instant level 10/10 jack.

Then you can play ice pillars after for 8 points of free attack.

Isn't eternal 10 times more interesting than standard where smart players can just break the game in half?

Remember if everything is broken nothing is thats how modern works in mtg

So before I showcased one of the best aggro decks in the eternal format.

Essentially hard core pirate aggro that makes the old versions look like joke when it comes to pure speed and responsiveness.

But how do you beat it?

Well its actually exceptionally easy I'll list the cards for each region:

Feijord: 3 of blighted ravine, 3 tavern keepers, 3 avorosan, and 3 catalyst (ramp) you're basically guaranteed any slower freijord deck will manage okay sometimes in the aggro matchup

Ionia: got its own 4 drop tavern keeper in the new set, you have your standard ryze tools essentially burst followers and dragonlings.

But I think low key the best Ionia tools are the simple ones people sleep on like palm and face smash. It pound for pound punishes development more than anything else.

P and z: really shouldn't struggle into aggro ever, it's the ping region it's all pings

Noxious: better at dealing with midrange threats but flock is still the best one mana card in the game

Bandle: goes wide better than any other region

Shadow: its again the cards that people don't use, 5 mana deal 2 to two followers is big value, or maybe it's just tripple vile tripple go hard.

The point is that eternal has a massive card pool with so many good cards to chose from and given the diversity of the format the relative power of "Bad cards" is much higher.

With each new set released the complexity of the core LOR experience (eternal) increases.

More variable, more interactions, more champions, old decks get better, new decks are born and everything in between.

But standard is just that, literally a handful of 4 decks that are top tier, will always be top tier, and there are no balance changes that can freshen up a rigid format because there aren't enough variables to work off of.

The reality is that standard is an experiment, an attempt to appease pro players doing there 3 deck rotation ladder grind, and a way of bringing back snap players who get scared by complexity.

But you see core LOR still exists, it didn't go anywhere, it didn't stop functioning, and it didn't dissappear.

And any attempts to turn a blind eye to the superior core format of the game will only end up hurting it in the long run.

I know it's only the second day, but with the fervor of people playing the new decks is all over the place.  I can already see problematic cards coming to the table and I am curious as to what other think.  

KEEP IN MIND this is not throwing salt around, this is just the community responding to what R&D missed. 

I'll got first, Kangor, Dancing King needs to be nerfed.  I did a Twisting Nether twice to try and keep it from going back to my opponent's hand and continue giving them more and more lifesteal minions.  There is something overlooked on this minion.  A good nerf for this would be it can only come back to your hand if there is a minion in it.  If there is a situation where you have no cards in hand... it still goes back there.  Unless everyone is packing Silence of some kind or Sylvanas, the Accused in every deck.  It is brutal.  What about anyone else?

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So let's break this down I'm tired of winning so I'll open myself up to snipers ^ then inevitable switch decks and go right back to winning again.

- 13 high value one drops every single one has 2 health or more to devalue pings like vile feast

- mana 2 is all spells and burn. So make it rain plus pirouette is gonna seal the mirror

- you have your burn pkg obviously noxious, demo, decimate

- you have your standard draw so you can sustain in longer games so tenticle and elusive dude

What makes this deck different?

It's basically the simultaneously anti control and anti aggro considerations.

How do we beat vile, how do we best the mirror we have big answers for both, and we don't fall into the trap of mirrai warden, it's a great card but it's not what we want necessarily.

So yeah the only good answer is the hard counter basically freijord shadow that has teched specifically with nothing but chump blockers.

Then once you face the counter you off match and go with a slower counter deck.

So this is how I thought about and built one deck ^ all my decks go through this scrutiny and are similarly sucessful.

Two aggro decks enter one leaves.

No mismatching no shenanigans.

Just my aggro built custom for Eternal as a hyper burn deck and meta Samara daybreak.

Who wins, the crowd waits with bated breath!

Well its obviously me, because I understand the format and I built custom

And the opponent lost because those standard play patterns are boring, predictable, and downright underpowered by eternal standards.

I remain the king of that format always, until Riot formally adopts it, and then the pro players pool their resources to make a tier list.

Even then however with this many decks and card choices I will still rain Supreme.

I love that people keep trying to one up me, I saw someone who was all in on burn literally precious pet nothing but one drops, but he lost too. You can try to counter me, you can try to one up me, you can try to beat me.

But it won't work, I'm the eternal master.

How long will it take before you all get that through your heads?

Eventually you'll all give up and start asking for advice, Nifty how is it that you build different and play different.

You'll get your answers from the eternal master, the only one in LOR right now.

The title to debate. With recent patch allowing us to spend gold into golden packs, a new opportunity has arisen. There are some points I would like to point out:

• Normal Pack: Costs 100g, at least nets you 1x20+4x5=40 dust from a pack.
• Golden Pack: Costs 400g, at least nets you 1x100+4x50=300 dust from a pack.

Therefore, spending a golden pack rewards you more with dust than 4 normal packs ever could. However, there is also the legendary timer to consider. I know that buying first 10 normal packs guarantee you to get a legendary but beyond that, I don't know the math. Same goes for golden pack legendary timer, what are the odds?

One can also play Arena and/or Duels, provided you're really good at it. Yet, does it really compensate for buying golden packs?

In short, what should be the best option for a regular player? Spending gold on:

• Normal Packs?
• Golden Packs?
• Arena/Duels?

I look forward to hear your thoughts on this matter. Thanks for reading and I wish you everyone have a great day.

I can't say enough about this format.

I went like 10/0 last night all with my own decks.

Illoi (midrange) 

Pirates (aggro)

Asol (ramp)

Ryse (combo)

It doesnt really matter what you play, as long as.you have that advanced concept of deck building you will win.

Doesn't matter if an entire army of people try to stop you, they can be the best players, or the worst players.

At the end its all the same to Nifty.

So here's hoping Riot does the right thing and formally adopts this format long term because honestly standard is for grade schoolers at this point.

I really wish Swim didn't get canceled because he's bad with women. Because his oppinion on this debate would be the only one I'd listen to with our play styles being very similar.

Like how many people do you know can hit insane winrates with absolute trash? 

I can count those people on one hand, there's me and then there's him.

Streamers will pretend that hey time bomb printer is the best deck ever! I face it and it crumbles to me in two seconds.

Hey why don't you go peddle your garbage brews to someone else and leave the house cleaning to the professionals?

Competition Theme: Numerical Value

It's time to mix it up! Swap in them beats and change the flow. [Insert additional music reference here]

• You must design a card that can swap the numbers around on itself.
  • You can switch Attack and Health, Attack and Cost, numbers in the text; whichever works, so long as something is causing them to be mixed up.
  • Examples include: "Harmonic/Dissonant" cards like Harmonic Disco, "Worgen" cards like Swift Messenger, etc.

Ready for Festival of Legends to begin? Icefiremage would have us search for a new rhythm!

As always, we can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Apr 10 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Apr 15 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Apr 15 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Apr 16 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Apr 16 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Apr 17 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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