I’d argue that Frost Nova is good where it is. Look at Priest, instead of printing a solid board control card for the basic set, Blizzard has to cope with this by making a token “OP board clear” every expansion for it.
Similarly with Frost Nova, it allows Blizzard to try more things with the Freeze archetype (for better or for worse) without clogging up a slot in every expansion with a “token mass freeze”
Great analysis, but you might want to re-evaluate Avenge here. It can be slotted into the new Highlander Paladin and the few Secret decks people will be trying out, but it will not go into Murloc Paladin as it ruins the whole Tip the Scales package.
Shaku and Swashburglar are great cards that can fit into any Rogue deck. The question then becomes will Swashburglar be able to replace Pharoah Cat? Probably. I’d say 3-4 star on both. They can also be slotted into Highlander Quest Rouge which is an absolute banger of a deck to play already, upping the consistency of quest completion will make it just a tiny bit better honestly. Might be a bit biased on the rating because of Patches the Pirate PTSD.
Also, controversial opinion, but you can replace Masked Contender with Call of the Wild. That card actually has one of the worst win rates in the deck, and I had replaced it long ago
I draft Zephrys in Arena and this fuckwad steals him out of the deck with THOTSTEAL TWICE. MY DECK STILL HAS 15 OTHER CARDS TO STEAL ASSHOLE. Oh, and he is constantly at 6 health because I keep hero powering him. Would be REAL NICE TO DRAW THE ZEPHRYS I DRAFTED. I have 3 fucking cards in the deck and I STILL DON'T DRAW HIM. Fuck this game.
HOLY FUCK, I NEED TO GO AND TAKE A WALK. THANKS FOR THE THREAD, I FEEL BETTER ALREADY.
Definitely a good deck, I have been playing it for a while now and the Control Warrior matchup is surprisingly not that oppressive. Siamat usually wins the games on his own, so thats a good card to have. Highlander Warrior is able to consistently build up tempo and clear threats, it mostly dominates the midgame and you will just steamroll your opponents if you can curve decently with Zephrys as a potentialfinisher.
For some changes, my list runs Akali, the Rhino in it and he has saved me multiple times by letting me copy buffed Rush minions. I cut War Axe, Sul’thraze and Raging Worgen because i felt they were just not good enough, replaced them with Grom, Bone Wraith(tentative) and Militia Commander.
Like others may have said, Octosari is carrying the deck on its back, I would not reccomend playing the deck without him!
Prince Keleseth. I opened him TWICE when KotFT launched. I dusted him the first time because modt of the community was like: “Princes bad lol”. Opened him another time and was really pissed, but resisted the urge to dust him because I wanted to try meme it up with him.
Quest and Hagatha in the same deck seems weird. I'd say cut quest and place something like Millhouse for max meme value tbh. Quest doesn't synergise with anything and you barely have any battlecries.
Apart from that, lots of funny ideas provided in these memes, nice work!
The VIP Tavern Treasure gave me the option to play Bob’s “Bobalicious Deck”. It replaced my entire deck with treasures from previous PVE modes! Needless to say, both Plague Lords got wrecked first try.
Really enjoying this mode so far, its very flavourful and although the Plague Lords were challenging, they were very fun fights. Also, finally getting to play as Reno was epic.
I see, just offering any suggestions to help. Looks like card draw isn’t as needed as we thought it was. Mind saying how the deck is working out so far?
Cool ideas like the Oozeling and Wurm stuff, they probably complete the quest super fast!
Probably cut the Secrets (except maybe Snake Trap?) + Subject Nein stuff, and replace with Cult Masters/Master’s Call. They are not impactful enough and too slow. Can also recommend maybe Bone Wraith or something? Unless that is way too slow for Wild.
Springpaws and Razormaws seem great, you could probably cut the Hunting mastiffs for them.
Piper is once again probably too slow, so how about Halazzi or Flark instead since Cult Master can handle the draw problems?
Cool idea but needs a bit of work. Atm curve seems a bit wonky, you could also cut one copy of Revenge and the Wildtamer for Animal Companion
Rogue, Hunter and Mage are easily the strongest classes right now.
I don’t think mage has ever been bad, its just a very solid class with the ability to change between aggro and control at a moment’s notice, especiall with cards like the 6 mana kill Ultrasaur or 7 mana laugh at aggro decks.
Rogue is also one of the best classes right now because of how strong their tempo is with cards like the Scimitar and Envenom Weapon.
Hunters directly counter Rogues most of the time due to their low amounts of healing, and it also has access to cards that are very powerful like Flanking Strike and Baited Arrow. Its face game is no joke and most of the time, an aggro gameplan is very hard to stop.
The other classes are very dependent on draft, so if you are looking for wins, just stick to these three classes.
I tried memeing it up with Infinite ZephrysLock, and my biggest suprise was that i actually won a few games, like wtf. Had a lot of fun seeing my opponents emoting at the combo lol.
Oh well, lesson learnt, just do what makes you happy I guess :
I try to counter the trend of Quest Paladins and Hunters by playing Zoolock, and the next five games are all Quest Shamans and fucking Highlander Priest? So of course I get stomped. And I'm like: "Okay, this isn't working, lets switch to Warrior and try to counter the meta." Guess who shows up?
"YOU'LL FIND ME WHEREVER THE ACTION IS!!!"
"THAT WAS GOOD/BY THE LOA OF MY PEOPLE!"
Play about 10 games of non-stop Hunters back to back, switch back to Zoolock, and then ta-da. "Victory or Death!"
I think the Golden Epic is overrated, honestly. See you next season.
I’d argue that Frost Nova is good where it is. Look at Priest, instead of printing a solid board control card for the basic set, Blizzard has to cope with this by making a token “OP board clear” every expansion for it.
Similarly with Frost Nova, it allows Blizzard to try more things with the Freeze archetype (for better or for worse) without clogging up a slot in every expansion with a “token mass freeze”
Great analysis, but you might want to re-evaluate Avenge here. It can be slotted into the new Highlander Paladin and the few Secret decks people will be trying out, but it will not go into Murloc Paladin as it ruins the whole Tip the Scales package.
Shaku and Swashburglar are great cards that can fit into any Rogue deck. The question then becomes will Swashburglar be able to replace Pharoah Cat? Probably. I’d say 3-4 star on both. They can also be slotted into Highlander Quest Rouge which is an absolute banger of a deck to play already, upping the consistency of quest completion will make it just a tiny bit better honestly. Might be a bit biased on the rating because of Patches the Pirate PTSD.
Also, controversial opinion, but you can replace Masked Contender with Call of the Wild. That card actually has one of the worst win rates in the deck, and I had replaced it long ago
I ama so FUCKING MAD RIGHT NOW.
I draft Zephrys in Arena and this fuckwad steals him out of the deck with THOTSTEAL TWICE. MY DECK STILL HAS 15 OTHER CARDS TO STEAL ASSHOLE. Oh, and he is constantly at 6 health because I keep hero powering him. Would be REAL NICE TO DRAW THE ZEPHRYS I DRAFTED. I have 3 fucking cards in the deck and I STILL DON'T DRAW HIM. Fuck this game.
HOLY FUCK, I NEED TO GO AND TAKE A WALK. THANKS FOR THE THREAD, I FEEL BETTER ALREADY.
Definitely a good deck, I have been playing it for a while now and the Control Warrior matchup is surprisingly not that oppressive. Siamat usually wins the games on his own, so thats a good card to have. Highlander Warrior is able to consistently build up tempo and clear threats, it mostly dominates the midgame and you will just steamroll your opponents if you can curve decently with Zephrys as a potentialfinisher.
For some changes, my list runs Akali, the Rhino in it and he has saved me multiple times by letting me copy buffed Rush minions. I cut War Axe, Sul’thraze and Raging Worgen because i felt they were just not good enough, replaced them with Grom, Bone Wraith(tentative) and Militia Commander.
Like others may have said, Octosari is carrying the deck on its back, I would not reccomend playing the deck without him!
Nice to see that Jades are still ruining another brawl
Pfft, 12 health on turn 3? You gotta pump up those numbers, Combo Priest can drop it to 0 by that time with a 24/24 on board.
Prince Keleseth. I opened him TWICE when KotFT launched. I dusted him the first time because modt of the community was like: “Princes bad lol”. Opened him another time and was really pissed, but resisted the urge to dust him because I wanted to try meme it up with him.
Lo and behold META DEFINING CARD.
Sweet mother of God, Flamewaker is back. I thought I could finally escape by playing Standard forever, but well... hiatus time
Might be a issue with Heroic mode only, I have the same thing happening with me.
Quest and Hagatha in the same deck seems weird. I'd say cut quest and place something like Millhouse for max meme value tbh. Quest doesn't synergise with anything and you barely have any battlecries.
Apart from that, lots of funny ideas provided in these memes, nice work!
The VIP Tavern Treasure gave me the option to play Bob’s “Bobalicious Deck”. It replaced my entire deck with treasures from previous PVE modes! Needless to say, both Plague Lords got wrecked first try.
Really enjoying this mode so far, its very flavourful and although the Plague Lords were challenging, they were very fun fights. Also, finally getting to play as Reno was epic.
I am so fucking pissed, can Blizzard fix their shitty servers already?
I see, just offering any suggestions to help. Looks like card draw isn’t as needed as we thought it was. Mind saying how the deck is working out so far?
Yeah, its “Clear the path!” Listened to it for a bit lol
Cool ideas like the Oozeling and Wurm stuff, they probably complete the quest super fast!
Probably cut the Secrets (except maybe Snake Trap?) + Subject Nein stuff, and replace with Cult Masters/Master’s Call. They are not impactful enough and too slow. Can also recommend maybe Bone Wraith or something? Unless that is way too slow for Wild.
Springpaws and Razormaws seem great, you could probably cut the Hunting mastiffs for them.
Piper is once again probably too slow, so how about Halazzi or Flark instead since Cult Master can handle the draw problems?
Cool idea but needs a bit of work. Atm curve seems a bit wonky, you could also cut one copy of Revenge and the Wildtamer for Animal Companion
Blizzard: AYY YOU KNOW ROGUES AND HUNTER ARE KIND OF STRONG IN ARENA RN?
Player: Well, yeah?
Blizzard: HOW ABOUT EVERY PALADIN DECK GETS 3 SPIKERIDGED STEED TO COUNTER THEIR WINRATE
Player: ...
Blizzard: FIXED. GOOD WORK TEAM
Rogue, Hunter and Mage are easily the strongest classes right now.
I don’t think mage has ever been bad, its just a very solid class with the ability to change between aggro and control at a moment’s notice, especiall with cards like the 6 mana kill Ultrasaur or 7 mana laugh at aggro decks.
Rogue is also one of the best classes right now because of how strong their tempo is with cards like the Scimitar and Envenom Weapon.
Hunters directly counter Rogues most of the time due to their low amounts of healing, and it also has access to cards that are very powerful like Flanking Strike and Baited Arrow. Its face game is no joke and most of the time, an aggro gameplan is very hard to stop.
The other classes are very dependent on draft, so if you are looking for wins, just stick to these three classes.
I tried memeing it up with Infinite ZephrysLock, and my biggest suprise was that i actually won a few games, like wtf. Had a lot of fun seeing my opponents emoting at the combo lol.
Oh well, lesson learnt, just do what makes you happy I guess :
Matchmaking is rigged as fuuuuuuuuuck
I try to counter the trend of Quest Paladins and Hunters by playing Zoolock, and the next five games are all Quest Shamans and fucking Highlander Priest? So of course I get stomped. And I'm like: "Okay, this isn't working, lets switch to Warrior and try to counter the meta." Guess who shows up?
Play about 10 games of non-stop Hunters back to back, switch back to Zoolock, and then ta-da. "Victory or Death!"
I think the Golden Epic is overrated, honestly. See you next season.
The flavour is verygood, but Cho’gall himself appears to be pretty bad. I mean, 50/50 draw some cards or lose the game? Lol.
The other cards are cool tho, I can imagine some pretty funny moments from them.