And you will think how to accompany them with cards you have in a best possible way. And this period lasts for a several months, until you have all the pool 3 cards.
I agree, it would take several months of steady playing to collect the entire pool 3.
Just to remind you, your claim here has consistently been that Marvel Snap is better than LoR, because it's harder to get all the cards.
Now, to repeat my previous comment: it takes a full year of steady playing to collect complete sets of all of the cards in LoR.
Last I checked, a year is longer than a few months.
But you forgot one little thing: pool 3 is not the last pool of cards that you collect. And 99% of the players will never have all the cards in the game at any point. I'm not saying that because of that, Snap is better than LoR of whatever. I'm just saying that it's different, and that's cool.
And btw, collecting in Marvel Snap is not only about cards. Variants and splits are a big part of this game, but this of course if you care.
And the collections are different for everyone - that's the beauty, so primitive netdeking is impossible. Moreover, the collections are different for everyone not only throughout the entire third pool, but even after it, given how difficult it is to get cards from pool 4 and 5.
There are a couple things going on this quote that are misunderstandings.
1) Literally everyone who hits collection level 486 has EXACTLY the same collection at that moment. Every single player, no exceptions. There is zero difference in their cards, just in their variants. Same thing for collection level 222 - every player at collection level 222 has identical collections with every other player at collection level 222.
2) Everyone in pool 3 has all of the pool 1 and pool 2 cards, guaranteed, no exceptions. This means that the only remaining variable is which cards your deck has that are exclusive to pool 3 or higher. This certainly allows for variations, but every deck will still contain a significant number of cards from pools 1 and 2.
3) Pools 4 and 5 are not actually separate pools. The only reason they are mentioned is because they have a different drop chance than pool 3. But you could theoretically get a "pool 5" card immediately after moving into pool 3 - anytime after collection level 486. You don't "move out" of pool 3 at any point, though I suppose you could say you're no longer in pool 3 if you manage to collect every single pool 3 card. But there is no collection where you move from pool 3 to pool 4.
Okay...
1) 222 and 486. I mean, c'mon... Unless you want to stay a while at these CL, it's just two very short moments in time. That one core card of the meta deck might be the last card in your collection tree in that pool. Or two cards. Or three cards. So you play the whole pool 1 or 2 period with the substitutions you should think of.
2) The period you were saying lasts from 486 to 600. Not that long also. After 600 in pool 3 your opponents will be mostly with full meta decks. And pool 3 cards change the gameplay significantly. It's not fair to say that your deck will still consists of pool 1 and 2 cards. It will be a completely new game for you depending of what few pool 3 cards you will have. And you will think how to accompany them with cards you have in a best possible way. And this period lasts for a several months, until you have all the pool 3 cards.
3) And after that you will have probably 3-5 random cards from pools 4 and 5 and you start post-pool 3 period (doesn't matter how you name this period, I name it pool 4-5, why not, makes sense, you have all the pool 3 cards by now, now you get only 4's and 5's) with that and this period will last even longer than the previous one, I will say that it will last probably forever for 99% of the player base, because it is very hard to have all the cards from current pool 5 in any period of time.
Last two things. The difference is that Snap never allows you to target a specific card you want (well now it kinda allows, partially) is a very big difference. Being able to fully craft in other games a good meta-deck (you could craft good aggro deck pretty fast in any game) is a fundamental difference. It's not just "only" difference. And the second one, I wouldn't say anything about "most people" at all. It's still one person who expresses this point of view.
My point was that you will lose more than you win ... not that you can't climb at all.
Nobody denies that.
My point is that as long as you don't have all the cards, you are forced to think for yourself how to replace them in the metadecks, based on what is in your collection. And the collections are different for everyone - that's the beauty, so primitive netdeking is impossible. Moreover, the collections are different for everyone not only throughout the entire third pool, but even after it, given how difficult it is to get cards from pool 4 and 5. Yes, at that point, there is already little diversity in the collections, but still. There are no such conditions in Hearthstone, or in Legends of Runeterra, or in Gwent, God rest his soul.
I personally think Marvel Snap is a great CCG game. They did all the core CCG things right. The main thing - the gameplay - it's addictive, it's fast, and it's complicated at the same time. The collecting aspect - again, it's also very addictive, good CCG should not allow you to gain your cards that easy, because where is the interest then? I quit LoR after two weeks because of how easily I can get good cards and decks - I lost interest in collecting them. That is not what collecting about. The cosmetics of cards, premium card upgrades - it's amazing. Again, I quit LoR also because of how bad the premium card upgrade looks. It's literally the same card. Why should I care about collecting them? But here, it's like collecting inside collecting. Millions of opportunities to show off one same card. Great idea. Great mobile client. It literally feels good to play the game on a smartphone. It's just I can't say what they did not right. I mean, I obviously, like most of us, I think, want at least a draft mode - that would be really amazing. But I'm sure we will get new modes in the future - the game just came out.
P.S. And yeah, why in the world do you want the game to be another Hearthstone in terms of playing your hand. We already have one. Variety is a good thing. This way more people will find the game they like.
P.P.S. I forgot one more advantage compared to other CCGs is that often in this game you have to think for yourself what to include in your deck. This is facilitated by both the randomness of receiving cards and the days of locations. And in our time, few other CCIs can boast of this. This game has a lot of good cards and interactions that can work under certain circumstances. Variety in many different aspects of this game is probably its main advantage for me.
Money does not give you any advantage only in pool 1 and 2. But in pool 3 it does.
How? (I'm not there yet
Too many cards in pool 3 and very slow progress in collecting them. I think there are very few people who actually have all these cards, so the money will definitely give you an edge here. Do not forget that with money you can speed up the collection progress.
Well, you can speed it up a bit, but it slows down even for paying players, and the collector tokens make it so you can get a card if you really want it.
Yeah, but still, you'll be in disadvantage all the way along pool 3. Hmm... maybe not all the way, it depends of how exactly the matchmaking works. If it's possible to match you with an opponent with more cards than you, then, it is a disadvantage. And I'm sure there will be these matches, especially in the mid+ pool 3, because it will be harder to find you an opponent with the same collection level/mmr/rank. So if you are spending, you can shorten this period. Anyway, I mean it's not only one seasonal card, it quite often will be way more cards than that. But, if you will be lucky or you make it work instead, then good for you.
P.S. And yeah, you can buy pool 3 cards that you need for tokens now, but it's not an advantage for you, because it's an advantage for everybody. In the end there will be more refined decks now because of that. And even more, your opponents can buy pool 4 and 5 cards they want now. So in practice this will not make your life easier.
Money does not give you any advantage only in pool 1 and 2. But in pool 3 it does.
How? (I'm not there yet
Too many cards in pool 3 and very slow progress in collecting them. I think there are very few people who actually have all these cards, so the money will definitely give you an edge here. Do not forget that with money you can speed up the collection progress.
But you forgot one little thing: pool 3 is not the last pool of cards that you collect. And 99% of the players will never have all the cards in the game at any point. I'm not saying that because of that, Snap is better than LoR of whatever. I'm just saying that it's different, and that's cool.
And btw, collecting in Marvel Snap is not only about cards. Variants and splits are a big part of this game, but this of course if you care.
Okay...
1) 222 and 486. I mean, c'mon... Unless you want to stay a while at these CL, it's just two very short moments in time. That one core card of the meta deck might be the last card in your collection tree in that pool. Or two cards. Or three cards. So you play the whole pool 1 or 2 period with the substitutions you should think of.
2) The period you were saying lasts from 486 to 600. Not that long also. After 600 in pool 3 your opponents will be mostly with full meta decks. And pool 3 cards change the gameplay significantly. It's not fair to say that your deck will still consists of pool 1 and 2 cards. It will be a completely new game for you depending of what few pool 3 cards you will have. And you will think how to accompany them with cards you have in a best possible way. And this period lasts for a several months, until you have all the pool 3 cards.
3) And after that you will have probably 3-5 random cards from pools 4 and 5 and you start post-pool 3 period (doesn't matter how you name this period, I name it pool 4-5, why not, makes sense, you have all the pool 3 cards by now, now you get only 4's and 5's) with that and this period will last even longer than the previous one, I will say that it will last probably forever for 99% of the player base, because it is very hard to have all the cards from current pool 5 in any period of time.
Last two things. The difference is that Snap never allows you to target a specific card you want (well now it kinda allows, partially) is a very big difference. Being able to fully craft in other games a good meta-deck (you could craft good aggro deck pretty fast in any game) is a fundamental difference. It's not just "only" difference. And the second one, I wouldn't say anything about "most people" at all. It's still one person who expresses this point of view.
Peace.
Nobody denies that.
My point is that as long as you don't have all the cards, you are forced to think for yourself how to replace them in the metadecks, based on what is in your collection. And the collections are different for everyone - that's the beauty, so primitive netdeking is impossible. Moreover, the collections are different for everyone not only throughout the entire third pool, but even after it, given how difficult it is to get cards from pool 4 and 5. Yes, at that point, there is already little diversity in the collections, but still. There are no such conditions in Hearthstone, or in Legends of Runeterra, or in Gwent, God rest his soul.
I personally think Marvel Snap is a great CCG game. They did all the core CCG things right. The main thing - the gameplay - it's addictive, it's fast, and it's complicated at the same time. The collecting aspect - again, it's also very addictive, good CCG should not allow you to gain your cards that easy, because where is the interest then? I quit LoR after two weeks because of how easily I can get good cards and decks - I lost interest in collecting them. That is not what collecting about. The cosmetics of cards, premium card upgrades - it's amazing. Again, I quit LoR also because of how bad the premium card upgrade looks. It's literally the same card. Why should I care about collecting them? But here, it's like collecting inside collecting. Millions of opportunities to show off one same card. Great idea. Great mobile client. It literally feels good to play the game on a smartphone. It's just I can't say what they did not right. I mean, I obviously, like most of us, I think, want at least a draft mode - that would be really amazing. But I'm sure we will get new modes in the future - the game just came out.
P.S. And yeah, why in the world do you want the game to be another Hearthstone in terms of playing your hand. We already have one. Variety is a good thing. This way more people will find the game they like.
P.P.S. I forgot one more advantage compared to other CCGs is that often in this game you have to think for yourself what to include in your deck. This is facilitated by both the randomness of receiving cards and the days of locations. And in our time, few other CCIs can boast of this. This game has a lot of good cards and interactions that can work under certain circumstances. Variety in many different aspects of this game is probably its main advantage for me.
Yeah, but still, you'll be in disadvantage all the way along pool 3. Hmm... maybe not all the way, it depends of how exactly the matchmaking works. If it's possible to match you with an opponent with more cards than you, then, it is a disadvantage. And I'm sure there will be these matches, especially in the mid+ pool 3, because it will be harder to find you an opponent with the same collection level/mmr/rank. So if you are spending, you can shorten this period. Anyway, I mean it's not only one seasonal card, it quite often will be way more cards than that. But, if you will be lucky or you make it work instead, then good for you.
P.S. And yeah, you can buy pool 3 cards that you need for tokens now, but it's not an advantage for you, because it's an advantage for everybody. In the end there will be more refined decks now because of that. And even more, your opponents can buy pool 4 and 5 cards they want now. So in practice this will not make your life easier.
Too many cards in pool 3 and very slow progress in collecting them. I think there are very few people who actually have all these cards, so the money will definitely give you an edge here. Do not forget that with money you can speed up the collection progress.
Money does not give you any advantage only in pool 1 and 2. But in pool 3 it does.
I agree. The current rotation of old sets in the Arena is such a breath of fresh air. Especially for an old-timers.