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Meming With Bard In Eternal

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Bard is often considered one of the worst Champs in LOR

And that reputation is in some respects well deserved and others not so much

Pros:

He levels easily

Cons:

Leveling doesn't really help you win games

So logically the best Bard decks are decks that can essentially win on their own and Bard is just a supporting piece along for the ride

Obvious synergies with cards like Siren song will be ignored we don't want to be that sweaty 

So what else we got?

Well Demacia basically

Using 6 mana cythtia to buff our full board of junk we don't care about and swing to place chimes deal dmg etc

And single combats allow us to "cash out" on our over stated units

Honestly Bard is probably fine for what he is

He doesn't win games he just gives you a little numbers boost to your midrange deck and thats all he needs to be

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  • CUEACAYABYAQKAAMAEDAUGQBAYADAAIGBEOQCBQMAEAQOAAFAYAQAAYGBQNDGNQAAEAQEAAB

    Bard is often considered one of the worst Champs in LOR

    And that reputation is in some respects well deserved and others not so much

    Pros:

    He levels easily

    Cons:

    Leveling doesn't really help you win games

    So logically the best Bard decks are decks that can essentially win on their own and Bard is just a supporting piece along for the ride

    Obvious synergies with cards like Siren song will be ignored we don't want to be that sweaty 

    So what else we got?

    Well Demacia basically

    Using 6 mana cythtia to buff our full board of junk we don't care about and swing to place chimes deal dmg etc

    And single combats allow us to "cash out" on our over stated units

    Honestly Bard is probably fine for what he is

    He doesn't win games he just gives you a little numbers boost to your midrange deck and thats all he needs to be

  • I even thought about using dawnspeakers but it literally didn't trigger once after play so the draw is probably better

    It should activate chime give you another unit etc

  • Yeah you can't just play house spider house spider arena dude to simulate the impact of bard cythria

    I might have understated bard impact

    He lands a chime he a 3/6, you buff with elusive that's a 4/7 he plants more chimes

    He trades he dies whatever

    You play another, cythria comes down

    All of a sudden you're just getting grinded out and you don't even realize it

    So yeah bard is doing a little something if you know how to use him

    Beyond going wide and providing a small buff

  • Now the actual thing that is preventing bard from.being competitive isn't his board presence, his level condition, or his effect 

    It's flock and disintegrate, again these cards are important they will be the only thing preventing siren song from running over the meta in eternal

    But it also just happens to be really bad for bard

    When your opponent pie tosses (half a card)

    And disintegrates bard before you get chimes in, so now your second bard is also doing nothing

    So typically that's what happens you snap remove and he can't do bard thing

    But if he does do bard things he's not bad

  • Yeah its good, it's about on the level of eternal poro king

    Probably above level because you have better burst and removal, and honestly a cheaper numbers grind

    The best way to play poros right now is kind of the best way to play anything which is buff and pitch

    You buff your cards to demand answers from your opponent and then pitch them to their death

    Each time they are running lower on cards lower on resources lower on life

    So you'll see this with Nora, Viktor, aphelios, and so they actually grind you out through death

    Bard grinds you out through living and that's always gonna be worse

    But hey it sure is easy to turbo him eh?

    Burst for 4 towards level at 2 mana, for demacia 18 towards level, garen 6 towards level etc

    So in that perfect world bard can do work and I like that there are Champs like that in the game

    Heckarim is another good example, just swing and close your eyes and sometimes you'll win

    Play that siren song and swing and sometimes you'll win

    What's your opponent gonna do spend 5 mana on a harsh winds just so they can not die?

    Assuming they aren't gonna be competitive with ping spam disintegrate 

    I'll always be a champ first player and that's why I'll always be bottom of masters and you know what that's okay with me

  • So I did win fairly easily there with bard garen into karma sett

    But  thats because you couldn't buff pitch set

    Which is what that deck does

    Only Sett doesn't die when you pitch him making him the ultimate close your eyes and swing champ

    Meanwhile I fought you tooth and nail for every inch and had a leveled bard

    So of course I would win before you could start pitching for value

    I dont want to condemn that style of play, which is to say leverage your champions for trade value at any expense.

    I will say however that isn't the style of play I enjoy. Naaah I gonna flip, I gonna make 4 mana 7/7 that buffs for 2/2 I gonna do that with bard cuz that's what bard does.

    But most would just swing and trade with him all day and that's probably better 90% of the time.

  • Now unfortunately this deck is 100% eternal

    13 cards out of 40 are rotated

    So you won't be seeing thing kinds of results on the "competitive but actually less balanced" format.

    But man this is why eternal is fun. You take these dumb unplayable cards like bard like Laurent blade master and together you make them legendary

    But then you have to face down 18/18 stats with quick attack across 3 bodies for 0 mana so pick your poison I guess

  • Yeah you're pitching again so I'll swap out

    Wow I just snap removed your pitches and you lost?

    Welcome to eternal

    Oh no I shromed you through your champ pitches?

    Welcome to Nifty land

    Every strategy has a weakness and while we can sit here and talk about which Champs are better to suicide is it zillian or is it Sett

    The reality is you don't want to be pigeon holed into one play pattern.

    Cuzz yeah someone will just Catlyn your face in. I think thats why I like eternal so much its literally impossible to say hmmm this one.broke strategy is so broken it can't be stopped 

    Thats a standard thing only.

  • Wait I just found the next great eternal deck Zillian Sett!

    You just suicide in all your Champs for value and then time bomb or elusive them to death

    Wait don't give them any ideas 😅

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    I'm willing to run the one condense from the standard tech instead of the officer squad

    There is that one scenario where you double Corina, or even just get your extra mushrooms. But I'm not gonna allow myself to draw 3

    That being said I won't do sump monument or condense as a 3 of when that list is literally 50/50 which I can see based on rationing alone

    Just give me decent cards the 3 pokey, the 3 concologist, the 3 thermos I'm fairly confident I can survive with that alone

    Because I just wrecked Jax orn

    Why do these decks keep dropping catlyn?!

    You literally just conceded on level because you didn't have her

    Respect my girl!

  • People think you run ava because it doubles Corina trigger and they are right but the real reason you run 3 ava is catlyn

    Want to know how much dmg she does after 6 puffcaps and 3 flashbombs? Half your life total

    So running ava without catlyn is a little sus

    Because you want that open attack with Corina backup 50/50

    Can you 1) stun/frostbite leveled catlyn 2) hold up the deny mana for Corina

    Otherwise you basically have to condense Corina cuz you have 0 attack pressure, and you're literally waving a flag saying don't spend your mana and hold up your deny

    So now you're 100% all in on combo and I dont play that way personally it's too...gimmicky? Unreliable? Like what are the chances sump monument keeps you alive? I would personally run sump in the freijord shell, so now we are saying okay you can't kill us with chip dmg and we will frostbite the big stuff

    That seems good