Legends of Runeterra

There have been some crazy shifts in the tier list since the season of fortune began, with really out of the box decks like Anivia, and Poros creeping into tier 2. I would say at this point that we have effectively hit balance perfection in legends of runterra and you can officially play whatever you want.

https://www.swimstrim.com/runeterra/decks-and-meta

Let's open it up to hear what you guys are playing right now.

I'm a big fan of treasure Nautilus it's gotten me good results against both control and aggro matchups

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I feel like Jinx level up is still to weak when compared to the two other champions that are most like her. Her level up ability is essentially a variant on Ezreal and Lux but is substantially weaker.

Lux ability is free, hits a unit and face, and can be used multiple times in one turn.

Ezreal ability hits face for half the damage of Jinx rockets but can be triggered many times in one turn, is free, and essentially burst speed since you don't have to cast it.

Jinx only hits face, same as Ezreal but hits for 4, but her skill is slow speed like Lux, and can't be chained unlike both Lux and Ezreal. Then to top it off it costs 1 mana. So its not even free. But it requires just as much prep work to pull off as the other two.

Jinx rocket should firstly be free at the minimum and be able to be cast multiple times a turn just like her competition. Jinx should be the middle ground between Lux and Ezreal. Not the ugly step child they keep locked up in the attic and occasionally feed fish heads to from time to time.

It's a small gripe. I love how every unite have voice lines, but some of them need work. Like for example, the Legion Veteran.

He says; "The young fight for glory, I fought for legacy."

Wait, what? So he fought when he was already old? That's a contradicting statement. What is he trying to say?

I tried to delete this since it didn't  add a picture of a deck i was playing.

A maokai snapvine deck.

https://imgur.com/a/zxYcrrz

Here is the link for a picture of the deck pretty fun.

The problem with this mechanic is not that the cards that use it are too strong (although they are), it won't be fixed by simply nerfing BMM, P.Goods and the Yordle. The problem with this mechanic lies in the fact that is too chaotic for a game like LoR, it creates scenarios that are unpredictable and uncounterable, and it changes the outcome of games out of pure luck.

For example, If I run a single Ruination in my deck and my enemy is not playing SI, then you can't expect me to play against Ruination (alongside with all the other cards in my deck), and I shouldn't do it. It's a frustrating, unfun and unfair mechanic.

Making it draw from the bottom instead of the top of the deck is just part of the solution, but that was not really the core issue here, that was just a buff to Freijlord, not really a nerf to the mechanic itself.

As I see it there are 2 possible ways of actually making this mechanic fair: You either make the nab'd cards fleeting or you reveal them to the enemy. I personally rather have the later. I think it would still be played since the cards have extreme value right now. BMM is a 1 mana 2/1 that draws a card. PG is a 2 mana draw 2 cards that can be turned into a 0 mana draw 2 cards if you have BMM on the board, which is most of the times. Having those cards being revealed to the enemy is more than fair. 

I don't understand. I heard a few streamers say that. But the deck sucks. It completely revolves around you getting Heimer. If you don't get Heimer you lose. Plain and simple. Vi only protects him that's it. How is that the best deck  in the game?

i was playing with freljord/SI deck vs nox/SI player in unranked, when he used Harsh Winds on me to win the game ?!

He had no card steal options and I dont even have Harsh Winds in my EndureSpider deck.

How the hell he can use the freljord card ??? Cheating? or did I miss something?

Tier 1 - Frejord

The buff to braum has only cemented the place of this region at top of the pile since patch 1.3, and while its true the power mostly lies in the champions, it turns out thats kind of a big deal. Also the changes to yoink made buffing your deck, and yetis inherently better. Also has some of the best combat tricks in the game.

Tier 2 - Noxious

What really impressed me with this region in the new season is deck diversity. Sure we see aggro nox decks of various varieties everywhere, but we also have allegiance just starting to be a thing with the buffed bassalisk rider,  we have its pairings with frejord in midrange builds, you can even run it with shadow with a longer endgame plan

Tier 3 - Shadow Isles

Shadow is always the best anti aggro region with withering wail being a pretty obvious mvp control card. The champions are solid offering a variety of deck builds, and keeper is still the best 2 drop in the game despite the nerfs. Deep is still solid, with only ephemeral still being in need of a little work.

Tier 4 - Bilgewater

The yoink nerf hit this region hard, you no longer need to fear MF tempo decks like the plague, but that just gives room for gangplank and TF to shine in control builds. Kegs have received consistent buffs and is in a healthy and solid position, the perfect slightly above average region.

Tier 5 - Ionia

Provides elusives, counterspells, bounces, and stuns, and great card advantage tools. While there might not be anything about ionia that really strikes you as OP anymore in the champion department, it turns out just being solid is good enough. Ionia struggles against aggro a bit, but punishes midrange so its placement on the tier list will always be moving up and down as the meta changes.

Tier 6 - P And Z 

I absolutely love this region, but beyond the very limited applications in burn aggro, and Heimer Vi it's truly underrepresented at the moment. Its top end options could use a few buffs cementing its placement as a control region, with the likes of Corina, celebration day, and that 7 mana multishot removal spell.

Tier 7 - Demacia

Not only have they suffered nerfs to their flagship midrange bannerman deck with the likes of badger bear and grizzled ranger falling from grace. But the real bullet to the head, was changing their indestructible spell from burst to fast speed, which hurt lux in a big way. There isn't a lot of reason to run this region other than single combat which is the most efficient removal spell in the game.

Conclusion - Expect these rankings to change with future balance changes and expansions, legends of runterra is a well designed game and the difference between a top tier region and low tier region is just a numbers tweak away.

I want to start by apologizing for what is going to be an indepth analysis of logical fallacies, in relations to net decking in Legends of Runterra.

Be aware, this doesn't apply to games like mtg or hearthstone where net decks are actually just objectively better.

We are going to use Elusive burn as an example https://lor.mobalytics.gg/decks/brpb1t1la4s47cjpnfn0

Originally this list used to feature two potions two retreats and 0 zeds

These 4 cards or slots in the deck are what we call tech choices, they exist to counter the decks you are likely to run into on ladder

The only problem is that said slots can only exist as good in a specific time and space in which they are intended.

For example retreat is at it's best when it counters get excited which forces the opponent to go down a card, which is found in Heimer Vi

The play rate of Heimer Vi is lower than initially thought and we replace it with Zed which is better in every other instance

Therefore you are better off coming to these conclusions yourself because you will always be faster than the meta shifts.

Please feel free to discuss but keep it civil - heart you all

where I can see them, after the award?

I'll be honest I'm pretty luke warm about the predictions for the new season.

It's a lot of elusives, and burn in tier 1, along with Heimer that also just generates elusives.

That being said what isn't there is very healthy with endure and yoink dropping down to Tier 2.

The good news is that it's pretty easy to tech against aggro, especially if you're running shadow isles anyway.

Let me know what you guys think, again not endorsing these opinions so don't hate on me, just passing on the info for the hardcore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPmy--U6EM

You can skip to the solutions on the bottom if you don't want to read the following explanation of the cards problems.

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The reason the card doesn't see play has nothing to do with the cost. It's the effect/pay off. The problem with the effect is as Swim stated the card wont's you to do two completely different things that contradict one another.

One it wants you to play a ton of spells. Easy enough. Then it wants you to flood the board with units. How do you do that? You can't have both. Its either one or the other.

At least that is what I thought till I made a deck that I have found can consistently do both and leave you with a full board of unites to buff up to anywhere between 7/7 - 11/11 by turn 7 or 8 and almost always have a mind meld in hand by then. By consistently I mean literally every time I played it. After 10 games with the deck I never once didn't have the mind meld and a full board by turn 7. I used all the multi unite spawning type spell cards between BW and P&Z with the usual P&Z board control spells and lots of BW an P&Z draw spells to find mind meld by turn 7 or 8. 

The problem is mind meld is meant to be a finisher but it fails at its job. Up until turn 7 or 8 all you have are mostly low cost 1/1 chum blockers who you can't afford to block with most of the time. Then your reward for making it to turn 7 or 8 is to buff them all to 10/10 unites that all end up getting blocked then turn back into little 1/1 unites at the end of the round.

So you cleared the board but didn't even harm the enemy nexus 99% of the time. So unless you have another MM you are now dead in the water.

PS: I also tried using unites that spawned spells rather than spells that spawn unites but you rarely had a full board by the time MM was ready to be used.

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I'm sorry this took so long but I felt I had to first point out the problems before I could lay out the solutions.

Option 1: Make the effect stay. This would allow for you to clear their board, defend yourself during their turn, and hopefully finish them off on your next turn. It would also allow the enemy player time on their turn to take out some of your unites and build a defense for your next attack or do a board clear of their own.

Option 2: Give the unites Overwhelm or Elusive when under its effect. Though this maybe OP.

Option 3: Make the spell either burst or fast speed. This would allow you to attack in when you see a good opening where the enemy player can't block all your unites then when they confirm their blocks you hit them with MM and hopefully win.

Losing elusive outweighs making him cheaper, and they even nerfed his condition for drawing, now he needs to survive an enemy spell. Buffing a unit that has no combat perks like Elusive, is not that rewarding and he compares terribly to crimson aristocrat when it comes to being a target for spells like transfusion, blood for blood.

Now that my mis-leading title has caught your attention. Let's play guess how many new accounts get created to this forum in the next month to specifically complain about:

1) Elusives
2) Aggro Burn Style Decks
3) Braum

I would offer a reward for a successful guess, but I don't want junk accounts created just for someone to get to their number. While I do think Elusives and Aggro Burn Style is about to rule the meta once more. I think Vlad/Braum might actually be scary now.

Call me a Negative Nancy, but I think we will see 5 new accounts create threads complaining about the above.

To do friendly challanges with for the extra XP. 

Feel free to add :)

Tag: Katanaswing#3458

Dunno how Vincent3383 managed to make a thread with just a title and no post before this one... but to answer the question

Quotes from previous patch notes:

Starting with Patch 1.2, we’re adjusting how we patch LoR to make sure players get to play on new versions as simultaneously as possible, regardless of platform or location. The short version is we’ll continue to patch on Tuesday ~10 AM PT, but you won’t actually see changes until 24 hours later.

Starting with 1.2, here’s what it’ll look like when we update LoR every other week:

• Monday, ~10 AM PT
  • Patch notes article goes live.
• Tuesday, ~9:30-10:30 AM PT
  • We’ll deploy the new client to PC and the app stores. Players will be able to immediately update on PC, while mobile may take several hours based on your location.
  • This deployment will now be client-only, with no visible changes—think of it as the foundation for the new patch. You’ll be able to play afterwards as normal (though matchmaking will be separated by version), but functionally it’ll feel like you’re playing on the previous patch (in almost all cases).
• Wednesday, ~9:30-10:30 AM PT
  • We’ll push a data-only update that enables the new changes. You’ll briefly bounce to the Ashe loading screen if you’re in-client but won’t have to re-log (and games won’t be interrupted). We'll also force-update everyone to the new version—if you haven’t updated, you won’t be able to queue until you download the new version from your app store or re-log on PC.

( Source: https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/patch-1-1-notes/#patch-timing )

Starting with Patch 1.4, we’re updating when we post patch notes—rather than posting the article at 10 AM PT on Mondays, we’ll start doing so at 10 AM PT on Tuesdays (24 hours later than we currently do). The 1.4 notes will land at 10 AM PT on June 23.

Starting with Patch 1.5, we’re updating Vault unlock timing to put it more safely after our patch timing. Vault unlock will move back from Tuesday to Thursday at 8 AM (local time based on shard). The week we move the Vault, we’ll have an extended, nine-day Vault to make the transition.

( Source: https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/1-3-patch-notes/ )

Latest Runeterra patch boosted Braum in a way that to me is devastating. I created this deck, it's not so bad even now, but I expect that from tomorrow its win rate will boost !

https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/patch-1-4-notes-the-season-of-fortune/

Hey guys.

This patch is gearing up to be hugely impactful, with the tuning down of a few troublesome mechanics like yoink, and the buffing of several unplayable epics like Farron, shadowblade, and Jae.

Let's post our ideas for new lists on this thread, and I'll start us off with a fun budget aggro list with Ren.

He's a 4 mana 3/3 with quick attack that creates a show fiend in hand

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I'd love to see what your ideas are as well.

Do they reset your rank every season? What is new about every season?

Do their effect count for puffcaps? They are technically spells. They just have lingering effects that could last long after the Funsmith or Keg is gone.