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Adventures

Dissapointing difficulty

normal (named as story now) is laughably easy and heroic which is challenge mode is like normal difficulty..

there should be story(unlocks cards) normal(deck building) and heroic (ACTUALLY HARD!!!).

chapter 3 looked promising, a deathrattle deck that can pop them for 1 mana.. that's really challenging right? wrong! he trigger your deathrattles too so it's easy, the moment you gain board control you win.

A Skruk that buffs all his deck and board and hand by +1/+1 every turn for 1 mana.. 50% of his deck are weapons, the other half useless kobolds..

And 2 identical fights that are quite just ok, not hard enough though.

On the evil side it was a pure joke, heroic could be called easy mode for what it's worth...

The first one all his deck are dragons so dragon slayer and dragonmaw poacher make him a joke, the second one is the only one that made me make a custom deck(patron warrior) and is identical to the explorers so I am just annoyed it's the same fight, not even a twist.

and the dragons? it's a joke right? stall 10 turns.. just pick mage and freeze the board every turn.. not even close..

I don't know why they made them so easy... I remember trying again and again and again on BRM,naxx and frozen throne(only lich king, really) and having hard time trying to beat the bosses with many many tries.. this is a breeze.

and what annoys me is that it's obvious they made them easier.. cause they could make the dragon boss only trigger his on DRs they could made the dragon hunter actually having a functional deck (I passed for 5 turns doing NOTHING.. and still won), and the ships.. at least have ANY difference between the fights.. add some cannons only eudora has and cannons only the wanderer has..

/rant

 

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  • normal (named as story now) is laughably easy and heroic which is challenge mode is like normal difficulty..

    there should be story(unlocks cards) normal(deck building) and heroic (ACTUALLY HARD!!!).

    chapter 3 looked promising, a deathrattle deck that can pop them for 1 mana.. that's really challenging right? wrong! he trigger your deathrattles too so it's easy, the moment you gain board control you win.

    A Skruk that buffs all his deck and board and hand by +1/+1 every turn for 1 mana.. 50% of his deck are weapons, the other half useless kobolds..

    And 2 identical fights that are quite just ok, not hard enough though.

    On the evil side it was a pure joke, heroic could be called easy mode for what it's worth...

    The first one all his deck are dragons so dragon slayer and dragonmaw poacher make him a joke, the second one is the only one that made me make a custom deck(patron warrior) and is identical to the explorers so I am just annoyed it's the same fight, not even a twist.

    and the dragons? it's a joke right? stall 10 turns.. just pick mage and freeze the board every turn.. not even close..

    I don't know why they made them so easy... I remember trying again and again and again on BRM,naxx and frozen throne(only lich king, really) and having hard time trying to beat the bosses with many many tries.. this is a breeze.

    and what annoys me is that it's obvious they made them easier.. cause they could make the dragon boss only trigger his on DRs they could made the dragon hunter actually having a functional deck (I passed for 5 turns doing NOTHING.. and still won), and the ships.. at least have ANY difference between the fights.. add some cannons only eudora has and cannons only the wanderer has..

    /rant

     

  • Yeah, the adventure is too easy until now. I played some heroic Naxx a few weeks ago and it was much harder than to newest adventure, even with all the new cards.

  • They absolutely should have been made a bit more difficult since I've done most of them with my default burgle rogue deck.

    With such a large pool of wild cards I can understand things being easier than they were with Naxx and BRM, even if the bosses are objectively a similar difficulty (they may not be!). I wonder how people who have only been playing for about a year feel, since their collections will be comparable to mine back at the early adventures.

    Perhaps Blizz should reuse the Lich King model, and impose real deck building restrictions, ideally as restrictions at the deck building stage (we know the technology is there because some tavern brawls have done this). All it would require is storing a deck at the encounter itself rather than using one of our normal 18 (again tavern brawls already do this). A cruder version is to only allow certain classes which might find things less trivial, e.g.  you have to survive against the dragons with hunter so no endless freeze shenanigans.

    I suppose we could technically impose these restrictions on ourselves, but people don't work that way. They want a challenge, but also take the easiest route.

  • I had the same experience: story being too easy and heroic merely requires conditional deck building to exploit obvious weaknesses.

    I think we need to go back to the old version of heroic in adventures: blizzard makes the deck and lets you play against an overpowered AI deck (so you cant just stick a couple of Dragonmaw Poachers in your deck and win) or restricted deck building model (no dragons, no epic cards, etc.)

    Its the year's worst adventure in terms of game play, in my opinion. You're either laughing your head off or tearing your hair because you don't have a sizable card collection to begin with. They even let you preview the future adventure bosses (we know you fight Galakrond at the end of both sides of the adventure, correct me if I'm wrong). A little disappointing that this is the 'grand finale' of trilogy.

    Friendly

  • Haven't had the time yet to finish all chapters on heroic , started yesterday and i agree - even on heroic most of the Opponents are way to easy compared to other Story Modes on Heroic.

    I mean i understand that they made it easier to "Help" new players to finish the mode on heroic but i guess it could be a little bit harder :) 

  • Maybe it's the old elitist in me talking, but... I don't believe heroic should be accessible to newer players. Normal mode absolutely should be accessible to pretty much anyone with a vaguely reasonable collection, but heroic should be an apex challenge that you need to play very well - and build very well - to beat. Naxx isn't a good comparison in my opinion because it was their first time trying to balance these things and there are some encounters in there that were as much about luck as they were about skill (I'm looking at you, Sindragosa), but if you're beating them first time without even making a bespoke deck then they're far too weak.

  • That’s weird, I’ve been really struggling with the heroic adventures. Maybe it’s because I insist on beating the good side as one of the EVIL classes, and vice versa.

     

    or maybe it’s because I suck at Hearthstone lol

  • Ok the last wing is actually in the right level (except the paladin ones I beat them with odd paladin)

    Too bad the rest of the wings were too easy.. and it wasn't that hard to make them harder (as suggested)

    • you mean in story mode right?

      Is heroic too easy? I haven't had the chance to try. From some posts up earlier, I understand there's some frustrating difficulty in heroic mode on the last wing.

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      • Quote From dapperdog

        you mean in story mode right?

        Is heroic too easy? I haven't had the chance to try. From some posts up earlier, I understand there's some frustrating difficulty in heroic mode on the last wing.

        I mean wings 1~3 they were a beeeze most of them didn't even require a specific deck or were remotely unfair.

        The last wing is in the right level for heroics, except the paladin friends who were on the easier side due to just being a slightly stronger odd paladin. ish. at least they had boss cards.. this adventure has a severe lack of boss cards..