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Good card with nice potential

They call it a half-revert, which I think is accurate: it will be more playable as a 1-mana 1/2 than as a 2-mana 2/3.

The potential to snowball is what prompted the nerf in the first place, so I'm glad they're not doing a full revert.

Yeah, that Mobalytics report is awfully blind to some of the stand-out performers of the new meta so far.

I've been seeing a lot of Fiora, and man does it drive me crazy. Fiora is easily the most annoying champion to have to play against, because they always have the answer. All-in Fiora decks are essentially impossible to beat without Hush or Vengeance.

You just stall with removal and non-combo pieces until you can do the combo like any other etc control warrior. I will look to see if I can make it better when more cards are revealed.

I was on the leaderboard for the September/October season with a 7.5 average. After that, I might not even have played 30 matches in total. Don't really know why. I still enjoy it. Just feels a bit like I've completed Arena.

I played a fair bit of Leblanc/Sivir in the first few days of the expansion. I stopped playing it because it's VERY bad against Fiora, Lissandra, swarm aggro ... actually it's hard for me to even say what it's consistently good against.

Neither of those champions needs a nerf.

Awww man, I'm having PTSD thinking back of Starving Buzzard + Unleash the Hounds during Vanilla  ..!
With just an extra Scavenging Hyena for good measure and pressure ^^

I have fond memories of this card from my early days on this game, back when it was a bit harder to remove big minions outside of a few cards. One of the cards that made me love warlocks, actually. I'd love to believe that there will be a meta someday that will have room for this guy, but it's hard to see it. I guess the extra 1 health makes it less of a low roll if it pops up from a random generation, but only slightly.

Dont like it but we will see if it will be meta defining or not

I like the comparison to Battlefiend upthread. It's definitely not an "auto-include", but it's now a decent option if you need a 1-drop.

P.S. I wanted to commend you for using "its" and "it's" correctly -- it's a pet peeve of mine that seems to be spreading. :-)

Not in this version, this will be the standard version, but the one you are talking about will be the classic version of 2014

Are you guys really rating this card like it's new? you know it's been in the game since classic, I realize there was a rework but it's not a new card the only change is the spell synergy here you know..

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Since you're a fellow shuckle fan you may be interested to hear I prepend it with 'angry' for a reason very close to the present discussion: an angry shuckle simply hasn't got the attack stats to change the situation it is in, so the best it can do is calm down and make the most of what it has got. It sounds a bit defeatist until you remember shuckle learns Power Trick, making it the single most powerful Pokemon when it wants to be. Leaving yourself with a measly base 10 defense along with base 5 speed and base 20 HP isn't a risk to take lightly though, so best to hold off until something really gets your gogoat!

The interesting thing is that shuckle can absolutely be monstrous with the right moves like rollout. After a defense curl its nigh unbeatable.

I don't think they are rotating heroes in duels. The way I understood they just will add 10 more heroes and it will be a pull of 20 different heroes

Weird effect, but the reference is fun

I'm not familiar with most of those names ...
Any player from our Forum made it this time ?

2 weeks after the initial review and not a single card since. Maybe its a new avant garde kinda PR move, so the plan is to vomit everything out 1 day before launch.

That Flare and Starving Buzzard revert is probably the most impactful, but its wild, and hunter kind sucks competitively, so its hard to say that its going to make any impact. Still, a 2 mana buzzard is probably one of the most scariest thing you can see from hunter back then, and its likely to see some amount of play, if only because hunter draws like shit.

I was actually thinking of Wyrm Weaver a few days ago because it kinda sucks during the current meta game, but might be way too powerful in the next. But with mana wyrm now being 2 health team5 decided to reduce its mana cost preemptively. We'll see if that's a wise move, because this card might just actually be overbearing depending on whether tempo mage can be a thing in the next meta.

Too many people underestimate what a 1 drop can really do. The only reason why a 2/1 1 drop is bad is because it can be hp down, since that's not usually possible for a 1/2, it needs to be traded or your opponent needs use resources to deal with it. That's game changing in a tempo oriented game.

Even in worst case scenario, this card becomes a 2/2 with one spell investment, and the fact that it can snowball makes it a magnet for removal. Sadly since its not available in standard, its not going to see any play, not because its a poor card, but the bar for a good card in wild is absurdly high. Still, having a 1/2 for 1 is leagues ahead of a 1/3 for 2.

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Why not just leave the Mana Wyrm alone if they wanted people to play with them?  Making them 1/2 is virtually unplayable.

It's playable, just not broken like before. Comparable to Battlefiend, a bit weaker early since you can't guarantee +attack if you need it, but much more dangerous mid to late. They probably made it this way so they can bring it back to Core later without much worry.

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Also, off topic.  But I'm sure you've seen this!

Of course! With eviolite around I suspect they cannot actually give shuckle an evolution. Could you imagine it with 50% higher defenses? Amusing as it might be, effective base 345 defenses might be a bit too much...

Yeah, so nostalgic! Hunter was my first 500-wins hero back in the glory days!

Off-topic: someone remembers Shockadin??

Why not just leave the Mana Wyrm alone if they wanted people to play with them?  Making them 1/2 is virtually unplayable.