It has become clear as the year has gone on that DH weapons need to be made weak by themselves to compensate for how easy it is to add to their attack. Hopefully they learn from this and don't print baseline strong weapons for the class in the future.
With these nerfs there is more room for decks who are dominated by DH. Everthing will be fine and Knuckles surely is tested internally. Those tempo swings of Thrall can easily be controlled.
Internaly etsted yeah right even if happens if was good their etsting we'd ntoi end up with enrf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf after nerf constanty.
An incomplete set of nerfs is not the same as a useless set of nerfs. If evolve shaman ends up needing a nerf they can just nerf it later.
I don't really see why you think the nerfs will leave more classes "dead in [the] gutter" than there are currently. It is clear that these nerfs will help out the current worst classes (druid, priest, mage and warlock) because whatever happens to the meta, it must slow down at least a little bit. Certainly it does those classes no harm, and a shift in the top decks might well do them more good than the mere improvements to win rates against DH and hunter.
In the end, something will be the OP top deck that people complain about, and that happens whether you nerf cards or buff them, and even if you have perfect foresight when doing so. All that really matters is that nothing is so dominant that it suppresses half the classes simply because they have inherently bad match-ups against the dominant deck/class.
And the bad classes wills till be bad after the nerfs,blziz just hates giving tools people need to answer stuff in standard
Though they have introduced 3 mini-expacs a year. At a time when most of us would normally be conserving/saving our gold for the upcoming new expansion.
Sitting on current expac packs earned through end of season rewards etc can mitigate that a bit, though you need self discipline and doesn't feel fun :) Remains to be seen how many epics/legendaries will be added to the set.
It's a 19.2% saving in XP up to level 50.
Also you are forced to win ranked games every week even if you are already Legend and would otherwise take a break or you just play other game modes. Before you could just win or lose 3/6 games in casual every few days. Given the promise of "play Hearthstone your way" I hope this weekly will be changed to be any game mode at some point.
Definitely improved though with the changes for some quests completable in brawls or battlegrounds though. Step in the right direction.
The nerf to Lorekeeper Polkelt isn't that big of a deal, the main deck it's in (Raza Priest) is just as problematic as before because it's core brokenness hasn't been addressed. Just make Raza the Chained affect only your basic hero power already and be done with it. You can't have a refreshable hero power cost 0 mana. Especially not one that kills everything. Just accept it. Until that gets changed the same exact deck will keep doing the same exact thing in Tier 1 and nothing will touch it. The deck has single-handedly killed off pretty much all control decks since its unnerf and has been doing so before Polkelt was even a thing. Yes, maybe the games won't feel as samey if Polkelt doesn't curve smoothly and has a poor body for cost so it's harder to play out, but that doesn't exactly fix the deck it's problematic in.
Voracious Reader now slots perfectly into Odd Paladin and gets drawn by Crystology which the deck already runs, but that isn't that much of a problem, Odd Paladin hasn't been as dominant as expected. The other deck it fits into is, again, still as broken as before. When your Token Druid opponent can go second and drop their entire hand turn 1, generating a board of 7 minions that faces you for 16 on turn 2, who gives a damn about drawing cards one mana later. There is quite literally no answer to most of Token Druid's early game plays because 0 mana spells like Embiggen in a world of Spellburst cards and Patches is untenable. That goes especially for Gibberling. Voracious Reader's cost going up won't fix the deck's ridiculous built-in highroll.
But the biggest offender of all is missing from the list completely. Just...give Animated Broomstick the Warsong Commander treatment for fuck's sake. How is 1 mana give your whole board Rush acceptable? And that's not even counting the 1/1 Rush body that comes with it. Games should not end turn 3. Because of this thing, they do. It should give one minion rush, at best, or cost way more than 1 mana. Nerfing Animated Broomstick would pretty much solve the Darkglare Warlock problem overnight (or at least nuke its winrate and thus play rate because it would fold to aggro). Losing the ETC OTK wouldn't be that big of a price to pay for getting this little shit out of the game.
Odd pally ahs no ened for reader at all,it has betetr version i divine fuckign favour which ti runs a1off only ANd it woul rather draw its other 1attack miniosn then reader espcially since main power is in tis fuckign hero power and ti runs quite a few expensive cards (3/5mana +) and just BAKU alone makes reader way worse
Same here. I've really enjoyed the archetype but haven't played it much since the Dragonqueen nerf. Since I probably won't play it in wild I think I'll dust it. Sadly.
Junkbot should be unnerfed to Tier4. He was problem in past because he was one of the biggest pile of stats, but today he's nothing compared to elementals.
Turns out Killmox was a killjoy. So it wasnt obvious from the get go? what kind of game devs are they? dont they even know their own stuff? cause me and everyone i watched with a brain immediately said that card should be broken and surprise it was
Art for this challenge is going to be tough...a lot of the O.C.s just have their original card art, and maybe a single piece of concept art from an expansion reveal video. I guess it's okay to reuse that art, but typically a new version of any character comes with new art.
what the hell? so that basically means the packs we opened from Darkmoon Faire werent even worth its 100 gold each since u were getting dupes rares and commons when u could be getting the extra ones that are missing. thats next level rip off. cant believe they went that way
Annoying, right? Not only did Blizzard change our way of playing this game through the rewards track and having to obtain enormous amounts of XP via grinding out games. They also changed our way of pack openings which occurred mostly at the start of each new expansion for the majority of players.
I do not want to sound like the Doomsayer here, but he was right: "The end is coming!" 😄
what the hell? so that basically means the packs we opened from Darkmoon Faire werent even worth its 100 gold each since u were getting dupes rares and commons when u could be getting the extra ones that are missing. thats next level rip off. cant believe they went that way
I finally managed to reach level 51 before the reward track gets updated later today. For the rewards, I picked the alternate coin and the Nightslayer Valeera hero portrait (hoping I will play that class more often). With the rewards track update, I should get a boost to level 60 instantly. I will wait and not open the 5 Darkmoon Faire packs we will be receiving today until the mini expansion is released.
so the mini expansion isnt gonna be released in the form of an adventure? or somekind of thing where u spend around 2k gold and u get all the cards from the mini expansion? u saying its gonna be added into the regular Darkmoon Faire packs? cause that would be a first
Exactly, so if you already opened at least 40-50 DMF packs keep the new ones unopened to get the commons and rares of mini expansion. You will get at least 4 packs from Winter Weil event, 5 packs from compensation, few from monthly rewards
I think that even without go hard around Vladimir wouldn't see much play, All other 5 mana champions ( Gangplank, trundle, Lee Sin, Vi, Quinn, Swain) are either strong finishers or offer you powerful control effect. What does Vladimir do? Drain you opponent for 1 damage? They could at least give his level up form fearsome or some effect that trigger when he takes damage like Braum does.
Should've just removed all the restrictions or at least make it apply only to rare and common cards. There's little to no reason why duels remain practically the only mode currently paywalled and with such a ridiculous condition no less. Under what circumstances will a primarily duels player be interested in getting unique epic cards, and 15 of them too.
I finally managed to reach level 51 before the reward track gets updated later today. For the rewards, I picked the alternate coin and the Nightslayer Valeera hero portrait (hoping I will play that class more often). With the rewards track update, I should get a boost to level 60 instantly. I will wait and not open the 5 Darkmoon Faire packs we will be receiving today until the mini expansion is released.
so the mini expansion isnt gonna be released in the form of an adventure? or somekind of thing where u spend around 2k gold and u get all the cards from the mini expansion? u saying its gonna be added into the regular Darkmoon Faire packs? cause that would be a first
Yes, they have said that a mini expansion will be released about halfway into this latest expansion and those cards will be obtainable through regular Darkmoon Faire card packs. This is part of the elaborate scheme IMO to have people buy more packs with real money at the beginning of the expansion if they want to play with more decks from the get go. I myself, will not do that and just have to adjust my pack openings from all occurring at the start of a new expansion and redistribute that quite a bit to leave pack openings halfway the expansion possible without using real money.
For a whale like me, this is not really a problem since I have accumulated upwards of 200K convertible arcane dust over the years (I usually buy every package deal), but it feels really bad to me at least to spend that arcane dust in a significant way. I know the purpose of dust is to craft cards with (I can hear you) but it still feels bad to do it. I tend to craft a few legendaries every expansion but my arcane dust pile keeps growing.
I don't think I've ever had a phone with less than 2gb or RAM since Hearthstone was a thing. It did start to play slowly towards the end of my Xperia II's life cycle but my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra has no issues.
I finally managed to reach level 51 before the reward track gets updated later today. For the rewards, I picked the alternate coin and the Nightslayer Valeera hero portrait (hoping I will play that class more often). With the rewards track update, I should get a boost to level 60 instantly. I will wait and not open the 5 Darkmoon Faire packs we will be receiving today until the mini expansion is released.
so the mini expansion isnt gonna be released in the form of an adventure? or somekind of thing where u spend around 2k gold and u get all the cards from the mini expansion? u saying its gonna be added into the regular Darkmoon Faire packs? cause that would be a first
I like a lot of the avaible portraits, Valeera and Jaina looks really cool but I already have Maiev and Khadgar and like those. I need new faces for Shaman, Hunter, DH and Warrior, but I'm not a fan of the new Thrall and would prefer the 1000W if I ever get there. I like the new Garrosh, but I almost never play Warrior now so we'll see. New Rexxar/Illidan is kinda meh, but I prefer both classes over Warrior so maybe. Both Malfurion and Gul'dan have cool new portraits so I might upgrade from Lunara/Nemsy. So right now I'm choosing between 4 or 5 of the options. :D (Not removing Arthas or Tyrande, no way.)
I use a Vlad deck with Tough followers and Demacia/Noxus buff cards... It has a weaker lategame than my Elites or Freljord midrange, but the followers are harder to remove early on, and make good trades/ burst damage with the 2 mana buffs/ Single combat. Culls as well help you control the board early on. The main reason why I don't think you see Vlad is because Go hard/ Pack your bags stops most midrange decks from being worth running.
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
It has become clear as the year has gone on that DH weapons need to be made weak by themselves to compensate for how easy it is to add to their attack. Hopefully they learn from this and don't print baseline strong weapons for the class in the future.
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
Internaly etsted yeah right even if happens if was good their etsting we'd ntoi end up with enrf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf,nerf after nerf constanty.
Blizzard is terrible at balance.
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
And the bad classes wills till be bad after the nerfs,blziz just hates giving tools people need to answer stuff in standard
Details on the Hearthstone Progression System Update Arriving December 15
Though they have introduced 3 mini-expacs a year. At a time when most of us would normally be conserving/saving our gold for the upcoming new expansion.
Sitting on current expac packs earned through end of season rewards etc can mitigate that a bit, though you need self discipline and doesn't feel fun :) Remains to be seen how many epics/legendaries will be added to the set.
It's a 19.2% saving in XP up to level 50.
Also you are forced to win ranked games every week even if you are already Legend and would otherwise take a break or you just play other game modes. Before you could just win or lose 3/6 games in casual every few days. Given the promise of "play Hearthstone your way" I hope this weekly will be changed to be any game mode at some point.
Definitely improved though with the changes for some quests completable in brawls or battlegrounds though. Step in the right direction.
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
Odd pally ahs no ened for reader at all,it has betetr version i divine fuckign favour which ti runs a1off only ANd it woul rather draw its other 1attack miniosn then reader espcially since main power is in tis fuckign hero power and ti runs quite a few expensive cards (3/5mana +) and just BAKU alone makes reader way worse
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
Same here. I've really enjoyed the archetype but haven't played it much since the Dragonqueen nerf. Since I probably won't play it in wild I think I'll dust it. Sadly.
The December Hearthstone Battlegrounds Update - Old Gods, Spells, New Minions, Rating Reset
Junkbot should be unnerfed to Tier4. He was problem in past because he was one of the biggest pile of stats, but today he's nothing compared to elementals.
Hearthstone No Longer Playable on Mobile Devices With Less Than 2GB of Memory
I disagree with the suggested requirements.
I play on a Redmi Note 4 (2 ghz processor, 3 gigs ram) and it's struggling to keep up with wide boards.
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
*cries in highlander hunter*
Hearthstone Duels Hero Power and Treasure Unlock Requirements are Being Reduced This Week
Turns out Killmox was a killjoy. So it wasnt obvious from the get go? what kind of game devs are they? dont they even know their own stuff? cause me and everyone i watched with a brain immediately said that card should be broken and surprise it was
Original Character, Do Not Steal - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Art for this challenge is going to be tough...a lot of the O.C.s just have their original card art, and maybe a single piece of concept art from an expansion reveal video. I guess it's okay to reuse that art, but typically a new version of any character comes with new art.
Rewards Track: Current progress
Annoying, right? Not only did Blizzard change our way of playing this game through the rewards track and having to obtain enormous amounts of XP via grinding out games. They also changed our way of pack openings which occurred mostly at the start of each new expansion for the majority of players.
I do not want to sound like the Doomsayer here, but he was right: "The end is coming!" 😄
Details on the Hearthstone Progression System Update Arriving December 15
Dang, I was trying to keep my fan-licking obsession a secret.
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
yep when im getting low on health i have to cover my view of the bottom screen with my arm just to not get the outcome spoiled.
Rewards Track: Current progress
what the hell? so that basically means the packs we opened from Darkmoon Faire werent even worth its 100 gold each since u were getting dupes rares and commons when u could be getting the extra ones that are missing. thats next level rip off. cant believe they went that way
Rewards Track: Current progress
Exactly, so if you already opened at least 40-50 DMF packs keep the new ones unopened to get the commons and rares of mini expansion. You will get at least 4 packs from Winter Weil event, 5 packs from compensation, few from monthly rewards
Vladimir rework.
I think that even without go hard around Vladimir wouldn't see much play, All other 5 mana champions ( Gangplank, trundle, Lee Sin, Vi, Quinn, Swain) are either strong finishers or offer you powerful control effect. What does Vladimir do? Drain you opponent for 1 damage? They could at least give his level up form fearsome or some effect that trigger when he takes damage like Braum does.
Hearthstone Duels Hero Power and Treasure Unlock Requirements are Being Reduced This Week
Should've just removed all the restrictions or at least make it apply only to rare and common cards. There's little to no reason why duels remain practically the only mode currently paywalled and with such a ridiculous condition no less. Under what circumstances will a primarily duels player be interested in getting unique epic cards, and 15 of them too.
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
I'm torn as I don't have a ton of cards, Dinotamer is how I made it Legend last expansion, and I love highlander decks.
Rewards Track: Current progress
Yes, they have said that a mini expansion will be released about halfway into this latest expansion and those cards will be obtainable through regular Darkmoon Faire card packs. This is part of the elaborate scheme IMO to have people buy more packs with real money at the beginning of the expansion if they want to play with more decks from the get go. I myself, will not do that and just have to adjust my pack openings from all occurring at the start of a new expansion and redistribute that quite a bit to leave pack openings halfway the expansion possible without using real money.
For a whale like me, this is not really a problem since I have accumulated upwards of 200K convertible arcane dust over the years (I usually buy every package deal), but it feels really bad to me at least to spend that arcane dust in a significant way. I know the purpose of dust is to craft cards with (I can hear you) but it still feels bad to do it. I tend to craft a few legendaries every expansion but my arcane dust pile keeps growing.
Hearthstone No Longer Playable on Mobile Devices With Less Than 2GB of Memory
I don't think I've ever had a phone with less than 2gb or RAM since Hearthstone was a thing. It did start to play slowly towards the end of my Xperia II's life cycle but my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra has no issues.
Smug mode engaged.
Rewards Track: Current progress
so the mini expansion isnt gonna be released in the form of an adventure? or somekind of thing where u spend around 2k gold and u get all the cards from the mini expansion? u saying its gonna be added into the regular Darkmoon Faire packs? cause that would be a first
In The Swing Of Things - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Congrats! Nice card :)
Rewards Track: Current progress
Level 33 atm, without the XP boost.
I like a lot of the avaible portraits, Valeera and Jaina looks really cool but I already have Maiev and Khadgar and like those. I need new faces for Shaman, Hunter, DH and Warrior, but I'm not a fan of the new Thrall and would prefer the 1000W if I ever get there. I like the new Garrosh, but I almost never play Warrior now so we'll see. New Rexxar/Illidan is kinda meh, but I prefer both classes over Warrior so maybe. Both Malfurion and Gul'dan have cool new portraits so I might upgrade from Lunara/Nemsy. So right now I'm choosing between 4 or 5 of the options. :D (Not removing Arthas or Tyrande, no way.)
Vladimir rework.
I use a Vlad deck with Tough followers and Demacia/Noxus buff cards... It has a weaker lategame than my Elites or Freljord midrange, but the followers are harder to remove early on, and make good trades/ burst damage with the 2 mana buffs/ Single combat. Culls as well help you control the board early on. The main reason why I don't think you see Vlad is because Go hard/ Pack your bags stops most midrange decks from being worth running.