Not really satisfied with that 1 mana nerf to Blade Dance, should've been 4 mana or a complete redesign instead, but since they also hit Shardshatter Mystic, I guess we'll be seeing whether it will be possible now to stick boards against soul dhunters.
Nerfing Dinotamer Brann was unexpected and will definitely hit them hard. For some reason I often find myself 1 turn away from stabilizing against highlander hunter, only to be dead from a turn 7 King Krush. So this being 1 turn away will definitely change things.
Voracious Reader nerf was not only necessary, its basically an expected target from its introduction. A 1 mana nerf to this card is enormously brutal. Now at 3 mana if you're stuck with both in hand you might as well just concede the match.
So I guess evolve shaman will be topping the charts now, with druid and warlock perhaps going a few places up. Hunter will probably be unmoved, dhunter and warrior to drop a few places.
Why aren't there images for the Shadowshell Informant nerf? I totally overlooked it until I read the comments here.
I was not expecting Duels nerfs, but since they're doing it, I'm surprised they left the Hunter "trigger a deathrattle" hero power alone. That is super busted!
awww come on, i have been a loyal hs player for so long, and my only device is an LG K9, now they are jusg going to hit me whit a "just get a pc 4Head" ?? i am so sad rn, i seriously can't belive they did this to me
With these nerfs there is more room for decks who are dominated by DH. Everthing will be fine and Knuckles surely is tested internally. Those tempo swings of Thrall can easily be controlled.
An incomplete set of nerfs is not the same as a useless set of nerfs. If evolve shaman ends up needing a nerf they can just nerf it later.
I don't really see why you think the nerfs will leave more classes "dead in [the] gutter" than there are currently. It is clear that these nerfs will help out the current worst classes (druid, priest, mage and warlock) because whatever happens to the meta, it must slow down at least a little bit. Certainly it does those classes no harm, and a shift in the top decks might well do them more good than the mere improvements to win rates against DH and hunter.
In the end, something will be the OP top deck that people complain about, and that happens whether you nerf cards or buff them, and even if you have perfect foresight when doing so. All that really matters is that nothing is so dominant that it suppresses half the classes simply because they have inherently bad match-ups against the dominant deck/class.
Man there's gonna be a lot of Neutrals polluting the pool now, won't there? Not sure about this Taunt build, smells a lot like Demons and Pirates to me. Stats can only get you so far. Eventually it's about cleaves, poisons, windfuries and divine shields. And these offer none of those. Then again, if the taunt build is strong enough and hits hard enough, games may be even shorter (god please no, I can't take it anymore) so poisonous divine shield bullcrap might be harder to come by. Also worth noting that this build will be available every...single...game. Never banned. If it's good, it'll get old real fast. If it's bad, it's just gonna make the pool worse.
Besides that, the new Demon makes me think it might be a decent transitional piece for Juggler Demons. But again, at the end of the day it's just a big dumb body with no effects.
Just to clarify - the character has to be originally created in Hearthstone, not one that originally appeared in WoW but was eventually depicted in Hearthstone. So characters like Vol'jin or Ozruk aren't allowed, is that right?
Correct: the characters must have originated in Hearthstone first, although they might have migrated to WoW later on (like, say, Elise, Reno, and Sir Finley).
The nerf to Lorekeeper Polkelt isn't that big of a deal, the main deck it's in (Raza Priest) is just as problematic as before because it's core brokenness hasn't been addressed. Just make Raza the Chained affect only your basic hero power already and be done with it. You can't have a refreshable hero power cost 0 mana. Especially not one that kills everything. Just accept it. Until that gets changed the same exact deck will keep doing the same exact thing in Tier 1 and nothing will touch it. The deck has single-handedly killed off pretty much all control decks since its unnerf and has been doing so before Polkelt was even a thing. Yes, maybe the games won't feel as samey if Polkelt doesn't curve smoothly and has a poor body for cost so it's harder to play out, but that doesn't exactly fix the deck it's problematic in.
Voracious Reader now slots perfectly into Odd Paladin and gets drawn by Crystology which the deck already runs, but that isn't that much of a problem, Odd Paladin hasn't been as dominant as expected. The other deck it fits into is, again, still as broken as before. When your Token Druid opponent can go second and drop their entire hand turn 1, generating a board of 7 minions that faces you for 16 on turn 2, who gives a damn about drawing cards one mana later. There is quite literally no answer to most of Token Druid's early game plays because 0 mana spells like Embiggen in a world of Spellburst cards and Patches is untenable. That goes especially for Gibberling. Voracious Reader's cost going up won't fix the deck's ridiculous built-in highroll.
But the biggest offender of all is missing from the list completely. Just...give Animated Broomstick the Warsong Commander treatment for fuck's sake. How is 1 mana give your whole board Rush acceptable? And that's not even counting the 1/1 Rush body that comes with it. Games should not end turn 3. Because of this thing, they do. It should give one minion rush, at best, or cost way more than 1 mana. Nerfing Animated Broomstick would pretty much solve the Darkglare Warlock problem overnight (or at least nuke its winrate and thus play rate because it would fold to aggro). Losing the ETC OTK wouldn't be that big of a price to pay for getting this little shit out of the game.
Just to clarify - the character has to be originally created in Hearthstone, not one that originally appeared in WoW but was eventually depicted in Hearthstone. So characters like Vol'jin or Ozruk aren't allowed, is that right?
Why Thijs? Isn't he a Standard streamer? Why not Savjz or Dog, both Battlegrounds streamers with large viewership numbers. Is Savjz still on Blizzard's "blacklist"?
Blizzard Announces Details on Hearthstone's 2020 Winter Veil Event - Legendary Quests, Card Back Returning
Are you okay?
Hearthstone No Longer Playable on Mobile Devices With Less Than 2GB of Memory
Phew, my phone barely made the cut!
Details on the Hearthstone Progression System Update Arriving December 15
Should've just made all dailies 1000xp. I mean, that 100xp difference is about 15 minutes of play.
Of course, the real question would be is this really even necessary to have low rolled quests in the first place?
Hearthstone No Longer Playable on Mobile Devices With Less Than 2GB of Memory
Your device has 2GB of RAM so it meets the minimum requirements to play.
It's only devices that have less than that which will be an issu.
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
Not really satisfied with that 1 mana nerf to Blade Dance, should've been 4 mana or a complete redesign instead, but since they also hit Shardshatter Mystic, I guess we'll be seeing whether it will be possible now to stick boards against soul dhunters.
Nerfing Dinotamer Brann was unexpected and will definitely hit them hard. For some reason I often find myself 1 turn away from stabilizing against highlander hunter, only to be dead from a turn 7 King Krush. So this being 1 turn away will definitely change things.
Voracious Reader nerf was not only necessary, its basically an expected target from its introduction. A 1 mana nerf to this card is enormously brutal. Now at 3 mana if you're stuck with both in hand you might as well just concede the match.
So I guess evolve shaman will be topping the charts now, with druid and warlock perhaps going a few places up. Hunter will probably be unmoved, dhunter and warrior to drop a few places.
Details on the Hearthstone Progression System Update Arriving December 15
Wait for patch to go live tomorrow and reroll :)
Blizzard Announces Details on Hearthstone's 2020 Winter Veil Event - Legendary Quests, Card Back Returning
So their winteveil event is cardback being back and 4packs of rewards,
while get more then doube it fre free tomroow (500gold and 5packs)
but still even wihtout that, just 4pack for an event is very ltitle comparred to like any previous event that sint forbidden library.
Hearthstone Duels Hero Power and Treasure Unlock Requirements are Being Reduced This Week
Why aren't there images for the Shadowshell Informant nerf? I totally overlooked it until I read the comments here.
I was not expecting Duels nerfs, but since they're doing it, I'm surprised they left the Hunter "trigger a deathrattle" hero power alone. That is super busted!
Hearthstone No Longer Playable on Mobile Devices With Less Than 2GB of Memory
awww come on, i have been a loyal hs player for so long, and my only device is an LG K9, now they are jusg going to hit me whit a "just get a pc 4Head" ?? i am so sad rn, i seriously can't belive they did this to me
Original Character, Do Not Steal - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Not really convinced by any of these but whatevs.
AF Kay's effect is basically a custom card I made years ago based on one friend who is always late btw 🙂
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
So much salt.
With these nerfs there is more room for decks who are dominated by DH. Everthing will be fine and Knuckles surely is tested internally. Those tempo swings of Thrall can easily be controlled.
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
An incomplete set of nerfs is not the same as a useless set of nerfs. If evolve shaman ends up needing a nerf they can just nerf it later.
I don't really see why you think the nerfs will leave more classes "dead in [the] gutter" than there are currently. It is clear that these nerfs will help out the current worst classes (druid, priest, mage and warlock) because whatever happens to the meta, it must slow down at least a little bit. Certainly it does those classes no harm, and a shift in the top decks might well do them more good than the mere improvements to win rates against DH and hunter.
In the end, something will be the OP top deck that people complain about, and that happens whether you nerf cards or buff them, and even if you have perfect foresight when doing so. All that really matters is that nothing is so dominant that it suppresses half the classes simply because they have inherently bad match-ups against the dominant deck/class.
The December Hearthstone Battlegrounds Update - Old Gods, Spells, New Minions, Rating Reset
Man there's gonna be a lot of Neutrals polluting the pool now, won't there? Not sure about this Taunt build, smells a lot like Demons and Pirates to me. Stats can only get you so far. Eventually it's about cleaves, poisons, windfuries and divine shields. And these offer none of those. Then again, if the taunt build is strong enough and hits hard enough, games may be even shorter (god please no, I can't take it anymore) so poisonous divine shield bullcrap might be harder to come by. Also worth noting that this build will be available every...single...game. Never banned. If it's good, it'll get old real fast. If it's bad, it's just gonna make the pool worse.
Besides that, the new Demon makes me think it might be a decent transitional piece for Juggler Demons. But again, at the end of the day it's just a big dumb body with no effects.
The December Hearthstone Battlegrounds Update - Old Gods, Spells, New Minions, Rating Reset
My takeaway from this: Wait, Sir Finley was removed from the hero pool
In The Swing Of Things - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Congratulations to Hordaki!
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
Do I have to part ways with my golden polket now....?
Details on the Hearthstone Progression System Update Arriving December 15
Got the Old God quest today, rerolled it after reading this and ended up with the arena quest >.
Original Character, Do Not Steal - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Correct: the characters must have originated in Hearthstone first, although they might have migrated to WoW later on (like, say, Elise, Reno, and Sir Finley).
I was meaning to post that link :)
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
This seems like a miss, at least for Wild.
The nerf to Lorekeeper Polkelt isn't that big of a deal, the main deck it's in (Raza Priest) is just as problematic as before because it's core brokenness hasn't been addressed. Just make Raza the Chained affect only your basic hero power already and be done with it. You can't have a refreshable hero power cost 0 mana. Especially not one that kills everything. Just accept it. Until that gets changed the same exact deck will keep doing the same exact thing in Tier 1 and nothing will touch it. The deck has single-handedly killed off pretty much all control decks since its unnerf and has been doing so before Polkelt was even a thing. Yes, maybe the games won't feel as samey if Polkelt doesn't curve smoothly and has a poor body for cost so it's harder to play out, but that doesn't exactly fix the deck it's problematic in.
Voracious Reader now slots perfectly into Odd Paladin and gets drawn by Crystology which the deck already runs, but that isn't that much of a problem, Odd Paladin hasn't been as dominant as expected. The other deck it fits into is, again, still as broken as before. When your Token Druid opponent can go second and drop their entire hand turn 1, generating a board of 7 minions that faces you for 16 on turn 2, who gives a damn about drawing cards one mana later. There is quite literally no answer to most of Token Druid's early game plays because 0 mana spells like Embiggen in a world of Spellburst cards and Patches is untenable. That goes especially for Gibberling. Voracious Reader's cost going up won't fix the deck's ridiculous built-in highroll.
But the biggest offender of all is missing from the list completely. Just...give Animated Broomstick the Warsong Commander treatment for fuck's sake. How is 1 mana give your whole board Rush acceptable? And that's not even counting the 1/1 Rush body that comes with it. Games should not end turn 3. Because of this thing, they do. It should give one minion rush, at best, or cost way more than 1 mana. Nerfing Animated Broomstick would pretty much solve the Darkglare Warlock problem overnight (or at least nuke its winrate and thus play rate because it would fold to aggro). Losing the ETC OTK wouldn't be that big of a price to pay for getting this little shit out of the game.
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
Well well well Voracious Reader, you can take this scroll and stick it... somewhere safe.
The December Hearthstone Battlegrounds Update - Old Gods, Spells, New Minions, Rating Reset
They removed Shifter Zerus... but... but... the memes...
Original Character, Do Not Steal - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Just to clarify - the character has to be originally created in Hearthstone, not one that originally appeared in WoW but was eventually depicted in Hearthstone. So characters like Vol'jin or Ozruk aren't allowed, is that right?
This link might be helpful for people who aren't as familiar with WoW lore - https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Original_cards_in_Hearthstone
Slysssa Reveals C'Thun is Joining Hearthstone Battlegrounds Alongside the Acolyte of C'Thun Minion
We’ll see if I deserve the downvotes for C’thun but at least I was right on the taunt “tribe” :
Thijs Reveals Y'Shaarj is Joining Hearthstone Battlegrounds Alongside the Champion of Y'Shaarj Minion
Why Thijs? Isn't he a Standard streamer? Why not Savjz or Dog, both Battlegrounds streamers with large viewership numbers. Is Savjz still on Blizzard's "blacklist"?
Demon Hunter Card Nerfs Coming! Hearthstone December Card Balance Update Arrives Tomorrow on December 15
Sadly a only very tiny nerf.