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When are the patches normally rolled out? 

If ever theres a comment I must tearfully agree with, its this one.

Event rewards were moved from the events to the rewards track at the demand of the community. Blame your fellow players if you have a problem with it.

Quite frankly I have no idea how legal this is but Krizgut is apparently a character that was only mentioned in HS so eh?

I don't  know why you are being downvoted. 

You are absolutely right!  Crystology is one of the best cards in your starting hand since you draw your 1-Drops and also thin your deck, so you don't draw them later (there are 5-6 in the Deck!) in the Game when you need your big Buff cards!

I played Odd Paladin exclusively the past two seasons and Drawing or an empty Hand were never a Problem.

Whats with all the SHOUTING in this Thread? And if you play DH in Wild you are indeed a fool. Just about about any Aggro Wild Deck will hammer DH. 

 As for the Nerfs I like them. No one card killed, Voracious Reader finally taken down a peg and Pokelt slowed slightly. 

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A small comment on Dinotamer Brann and highlander hunter's supposed strength. In all honesty, the deck would've been fine if polkelt didn't exist. The real problem was how easy it was to unleash king krush at turn 7 followed by Dragonbane or something like Kill Command. Unlike the other problems above, this one could've been solved simply by printing a good taunt minion, but I think team5 is still reeling from that brief Giggling Inventor meta to do it.

There are plenty of good neutral taunt minions in standard, with Khartut Defender being the obvious example as something to block a turn 7 Brann. I suspect DH's ability to just silence or ignore them altogether pushed them out of the meta, and the decks that stuck around were ones that either wouldn't use taunts or used a lot of them, as with paladin. So yeah, I guess hunter just got lucky that everything else in the meta ended up pushing the taunts out.

I could take aim at DH and say they just shouldn't be given good ways to ignore the taunt problem - which is probably true - but that's a discussion for another time. Right now, highlander hunter has been floating near the top spot for much longer than we've had Polkelt, and it deserved to at least be on Blizz's nerf radar.

Voracious Reader has been the fuel for all the crazy druid decks recently.  One that thing hits the board, they are given at least one turn to nuke their hand and draw up a few more cards to go nuts.  Increasing it's cost to 3 makes it ever so much more difficult to drop early game and go nuts with it.  It will still be rampantly used in aggro decks, and honestly, I'm wondering what kind of value we can get out of it in Odd decks. 

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Voracious Reader nerf was not only necessary, its basically an expected target from its introduction. A 1 mana nerf to this card is enormously brutal. Now at 3 mana if you're stuck with both in hand you might as well just concede the match.

 

Well this mana is a brutal change, but it also makes it so ODD decks like ODD Paladin get acces to it now in wild. so the nerf might become a buff for certain decks.

ODD PALLADIN WILL NOT RUN IT AT ALL.

IT has betetr things ot get of crystology, betterr thigns to put in tis deck,betetr draw way betetr in divine favour whcih is a 1off onyl adn to many 3/5+ cost cards in the deck to make reader good an

ONLY ODD deck thats gonan run it at al ins od ddh, odd rogue,odd aplyl nope

This makes me SOOOOOOOOOOO happy.  I'm a casual player and having those requirements to get to each level felt incredibly difficult to attain.  

Now, all that they need to do is make it easier to get the gold build up before a release in order to get packs.  I would save up gold for a month or so and be able to "buy" 50+ packs.  With this new rewards track, I'm still wondering how much of an impact this is going to have on that as well. 

I'm a little surprised that they didn't nerf Twin Slice or Soulshard Lapidary.  Both of those cards are still able to pump up DH attack values to insane heights and allow blade dance to be problematic.

Was Blade Dance too powerful? Yes of course.  But I honestly think Lapidary should have nerfed the attack gain to +4.  My reasoning behind this is that Lapidary+hero power enables Bladed Lady.  If they nerfed it down to +4 attack, the only way they can play bladed lady is by using multiple attack buff cards or by having a weapon equipped.

As for twin slice.  I think it's echo effect (Second Slice) needs to be nerfed to +1 attack.  The first half should be 1 mana (+2 attack) and the second half should be 1 mana (+1 attack).

I'm glad that they foresaw the issues with Highlander Hunter and pre-emptively nerfed support cards for them as well, but I'm a little worried about the possible ensuing meta after today that may form.  Perhaps the mid-season card release of 35 cards will provide enough new tools to allow the meta time to breath and experiment again.

Odd palladin will not Run reader at all, it has divien favour which is betetr and is ony a 1off,it has alot of 3/5+ cost cards (inclduing BAKU) that make reader way worse,it cant at all dump its hand as fast as aggro ruid can and it would ratehr draw its current 1attack minions OVER reader with crystology.

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To say that blade dance has only stood out as problematic in recent weeks is perhaps an understatement. It has been problematic since its inception, being a core card in both control dhunter and the late combo Kael'thas dhunter in the past and basically going to be slotted into anything midranged. Made worse by the Twin Slice change, and then went on to dominate much of Scholomance's meta, and then again in this meta. It's very efficiency basically created, as you say; a class with little to no weakness. This nerf is hardly going to push this card off the cliff, but then again, that's exactly the problem. If there's a card that deserves to be nuked its this one.

I'm a little less enthusiastic about Shardshatter Mystic's nerf. Its easy to play around and fits dhunter's supposed weakness of having board clears but not for big minions. Perhaps the real reason this card is broken is because blade dance exists, and I would've been happier if the former have been spared the nerf hammer and the latter nerfed further.

 

A small comment on Dinotamer Brann and highlander hunter's supposed strength. In all honesty, the deck would've been fine if polkelt didn't exist. The real problem was how easy it was to unleash king krush at turn 7 followed by Dragonbane or something like Kill Command. Unlike the other problems above, this one could've been solved simply by printing a good taunt minion, but I think team5 is still reeling from that brief Giggling Inventor meta to do it.

Blizz in generla for standard liek to make stuff good and then forgot/dont care/hatever to give ways to deal with at all,or if had ways to deal with nerf it/hof it or just rotate and no replcement for the role at all.

ASLO NERFS SHOULD NOT AT ALL NUKE CARDS , NERFS SHOULD WEAKEN NOT DELETE CARDS

I"m glad that they are changing the requirements officially.  My iPad Air had the "minimum requirements" for a while now, but I cannot play Hearthstone on it as the processor cannot keep up.  

Give us Zilliax back.

All of these nerfs are needed.  Although I have to agree that Voracious Reader is now going to be a making appearances in Odd Paladin and maybe Odd DH.  While DH has a lot of draw, it's rarely a bad thing to have more. 

Lorekeeper Polkelt I can see that this is going to make a few combos a little more difficult to pull off, but still balanced.  

To say that blade dance has only stood out as problematic in recent weeks is perhaps an understatement. It has been problematic since its inception, being a core card in both control dhunter and the late combo Kael'thas dhunter in the past and basically going to be slotted into anything midranged. Made worse by the Twin Slice change, and then went on to dominate much of Scholomance's meta, and then again in this meta. It's very efficiency basically created, as you say; a class with little to no weakness. This nerf is hardly going to push this card off the cliff, but then again, that's exactly the problem. If there's a card that deserves to be nuked its this one.

I'm a little less enthusiastic about Shardshatter Mystic's nerf. Its easy to play around and fits dhunter's supposed weakness of having board clears but not for big minions. Perhaps the real reason this card is broken is because blade dance exists, and I would've been happier if the former have been spared the nerf hammer and the latter nerfed further.

A small comment on Dinotamer Brann and highlander hunter's supposed strength. In all honesty, the deck would've been fine if polkelt didn't exist. The real problem was how easy it was to unleash king krush at turn 7 followed by Dragonbane or something like Kill Command. Unlike the other problems above, this one could've been solved simply by printing a good taunt minion, but I think team5 is still reeling from that brief Giggling Inventor meta to do it.

This.

Tbh, I may not even think it was a mistake, but rather intentional.

Which makes it way worse if it's true.

I doubt it. There's just so many cards that easily trumps Voracious Reader in wild that even at 2 mana its barely seen anywhere. Now at 3 there's even less reason to want it. Odd decks dont really need it, since they hp every turn and there's just better cards like Divine Favor

I honestly think the card is effectively dead outside of hyper aggro and in standard that means face hunter, and in wild its perhaps only aggro druid. Both will play this cause there's just little else that can do to help, but it will surely be much less significant a card.

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Voracious Reader nerf was not only necessary, its basically an expected target from its introduction. A 1 mana nerf to this card is enormously brutal. Now at 3 mana if you're stuck with both in hand you might as well just concede the match.

Well this mana is a brutal change, but it also makes it so ODD decks like ODD Paladin get acces to it now in wild. so the nerf might become a buff for certain decks.

All these nerfs are quite good, but i don't really understand the Dinotamer Brann nerf. Sure it's a strong card, but it never felt OP. Also highlander Hunter already took a BIG hit with the Lorekeeper Polkelt nerf. Also Dinotamer Brann is going to rotate in a few months and both Hunter and Highlander hunter are not good in Wild... Oh well let's hope they give Dinotamer Brann the "Dr. Boom, Mad Genius threatment by un-nerfing it once it rotates.

I like the Voracious Reader nerf, because this means that Aggro DH and Token Druid a hit... but now i'm TERRIFIED of ODD Paladin and other ODD Decks getting acces to it.... :(

Glad to see Lorekeeper Polkelt nerfed, because now it contests the turn 5 Raza the Chained in Raza priest, so that can sometimes slow the deck down a bit, making it weaker to Aggro decks. Good change!

The whole core problem is really just how dhunters are being designed. Seems like team5 is trying to jam dhunters at all corners, from control to aggro and the resulting farce is a class that feels like it can do anything. At this point it hits face harder than hunter, heals better than priest and pally, and controls tempo better than rogue. Even the so called weaknesses of its initial design has been rendered a joke. The fact that Dreadlord's Bite is being targeted despite being a mostly midding weapon more or less shows there's something inherently wrong with the class on a balance point of view. Hopefully the Blade Dance nerf does something to reign in Illidan's bs, but I doubt it.

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Dang, I was trying to keep my fan-licking obsession a secret.

Turn it off before doing that if you don't want to be eating soup for the rest of your life :P

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Can anyone explain to me why Dreadlord's Bite was targeted?

cause blizzard as always are terrible at balance ofc.