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Outside of a combo I can't see this card seeing play so there's either an OTK that this card enables or it's pointless.

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Still think Equality was extreamly overnerfed at 4 mana..  think they should readjust Equality to 3.. just cause it was done such an injustice to the iconic card..

justice demands retribution!

Anyway strong card dunno already every class gets INSANE cards this expansion.. so much for not powercreeping as much.

Honestly, if you think about it, Druid was already a combo class, although their comboes relied on huge board swings. Whether this card can make said combos become more OTK focused remains to be seen. Still scary though.

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OTK enabler -> need The Coin or any discount on a combo piece that is a minion or [Hearthstone Card (potion of illusions) Not Found]

there are 2 ways both require a set up turn and an execution turn.. in wild it's even easier cause of [Hearthstone Card (emperor thaurisan) Not Found]

6 cards OTK The Coin, Archmage Antonidas, 2 Sorcerer's Apprentice, 2 [Hearthstone Card (potion of illusions) Not Found].

In standard you can get the coin via Licensed Adventurer (just play Elemental Allies without elementals in your deck).

So it's 8 slots in the deck to have the combo in your deck.

Path 1:

Setup:

play Archmage Antonidas +The Coin + Potion of Illusion

Execution:

play 2 Sorcerer's Apprentice (4 mana) + Potion of Illusion (2 mana) + 3 1 cost 1/1s (3 mana)  in total 9 mana. then you should have 2 fireballs from last turn or any 4 or less cost spell and you spam fireballs.

Path 2:

Setup:

play 2 Sorcerer's Apprentice (4 mana) and double Potion of Illusion (4 mana) = 8 mana

Execution(order is important if you don't have another 4 cost or less spell):

play Archmage Antonidas + The Coin + 4 1 cost Sorcerer's Apprentice, then blast away..

In conclusion:

HOF Sorcerer's Apprentice already.

while that sounds plausible you have to consider that:

a) Mage doesn't really draw as well as it once used to

 

b) any combo Mage is vulnerable to being bursted down since no more Ice Block (the main reason no real  combo deck has been a thing for a while

 

c) you're talking about a 7-card combo that needs at least 2 turns of set up: one for the Adventurer (the easier one) and one for the Antonidas one, which is essentially skipping a turn and leaving yourself open (which is extremely hard to do in the current meta seeing how even slamming down Alexstrasza is a chore these days)

 

Also, I don't get why you think Sorcerer's Apprentice is the issue. Mage has always been about discounting spells and throwing out lots of them. Archmage Antonidas is the real culprit because he provides infinite damage. Rework Antonidas (or replace him like Velen) and you won't have to worry about Exodia MAge in Standard ever again.

a) they added a new draw card last expansion, they still can draw from other sources.. mage has decent draw options.. yeah I know Acolyte of Pain is gone.

b) still have a lot of freeze.. that's why combo decks normally have 45% average win rate..

c) the secound path (the one with the apprentices.. let's you cast Frost Nova and some other cheap spells while setting up so that way you don't skip your turn as much.

discounts are the problem not antonidas whenever a class is problematic mana cheating are the problem.

antonidas is a balanced card without the ability to discount spells.

Really good card, but one I don't think either class really wanted. I honestly think the legendary should have been another "If your deck has only class cards" (Pure) effect because most warrior lists actually run 25-30 class cards to begin with!

I think making another Pure card would top off the Paladin package and also give warrior a new tool to experiment with. Most enrage warrior lists run 30 class cards already as we speak.

4/5 Card, but a missed opportunity in my books...

After the nerf to Metamorphosis, Demon Hunters will possibly start having trouble when dealing with 5 Health minions.... and it's gone!

Slap this on T4, attack with it and on T5 attack with it again. T6, here come Warglaives of Azzinoth. Insane pressure through face hits.

ie, my custom Aggro Reno Paladin naturally uses Crystology, Air Raid, Flash of Light, Hand of A'dal, Muster for Battle. No other spells.

So it's not hard to find a place for the Abbess.

Broken x_X ... Yey give Odd Warrior a 3 Mana Equality with a 3/2 Body. Not overpowered at all x_X ...

A good control card for warrior.  For Paladin maybe an egg/deathrattle build including Teron Gorefiend could make some sense here.

Equality for Warrior? Oh boy.
For Pala it's good to have another equality but I don't think the impact will be as high as for warrior.

In my opinion, if a control style DH is to emerge, it will be on the back of this card. Chaos Nova deals one more damage, but costs 2 more and doesn't leave a 3/2 behind. Even in tempo DH you can slap one copy in a Soul Fragment deck to tech against other tempo decks..

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Could this be a sign that equality might get unnerfed? It seems odd that equality + a 3/2 with a synergistic deathrattle costs less than equality.

 

I don't think it seems odd that an expansion legendary is more powerful than an evergreen rare.

Cards in the classic set should generally be a little bit worse then the effect would normally cost. That way they don't get played all of the time. But then if there isn't a card with that effect in an expansion, then there is always that classic card.

For paladin neither side is unique effect too...

Yikes...

Sick on Warrior.

Not entirely sold on Paladin, where the DR is possibly a drawback (it kills your dudes).

Could this be a sign that equality might get unnerfed? It seems odd that equality + a 3/2 with a synergistic deathrattle costs less than equality.

This card is pretty nice for odd warrior and DMH warrior, and probably works pretty well in a midrange paladin deck as well. Very nice 1-card board clear.

Powerful board clear potential, especially in warrior.

I love this guy's aesthetic

Its just a very strong card that will see inclusion into most decks since its essentially a removal card, with a deathrattle that can be beneficial under some circumstances.

Cheaper equality, and yet another board clear for warrior. Whats else is there to want from a card for both sides?

well this plus can be easily activated by Warrior with Risky Skipper or Sword and Board. And even Paladin for just 1 mana can use Rocket Augmerchant

Yeah somewhat better in Warrior though, because they don't have access to this kind of health manipulation...

Yes it does! This with Skipper is 4 mana to wrath the opponent's board.

This card scares me.

Does this battlecry happen before Risky Skipper is triggered?