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Quote From Xarkkal

Too early to make a determination. They in no way feel like Galakrond Shaman. 

In fact I've yet to lose against them playing as Face Hunter. 

https://hsreplay.net/decks/#playerClasses=DEMONHUNTER&gameType=RANKED_STANDARD&sortBy=winrate

it's worse

72% win rate decks I think galakround shaman was about 65%.. don't remember you see the front page DH 55% global WR vs all other classes sub 50%

You can use the same text, but Stealth doesn't need an extra line:

Quote From ShotgunSoul

The damage after turn card and 10-damage on wake up minion do need to be greatly reduced.

Also, wasn't demon hunters identity weakness supposed to be card draw? Seems like they got a lot.

/can't let priest get card draw or face damage, though, that's the class identity

card draw is not their weakness, its card generation

Lol, demon hunters win rate surpasses galakrond shaman at launch.

What could be the problem with demon hunters in general? Just look up hsreplay. Skull of Gul'dan - 75.5% win rate MULLIGAN. 5 mana card. Surpassing Battlefiend, a 1 mana card.

Well well, turns out that dhunters are as broken as I once thought.

But that's not to say there's no counter to it. I'm been playing around with priest builds and it has not been a total 100% disaster.

The supreme problem with dhunters in general is not that its impossible to beat, but because it takes only a very specific deck to defeat them. Forget about anything even resembling an aggro or midrange deck that isnt dhunters as the other deck start with a tremendous disadvantage in the early game, let alone the mid game. And you can't starve dhunters out of resources in the same way most aggro decks suffer from, they just draw too fast and too efficiently.

So you end up with a game thats dominated by midrange dhunters, and absurd counters in the form of control decks like res priest, control shaman, and control warrior. What about the others? I don't know. In particular, what is hunter going to do in standard against a dhunter class? Run double unleash and double explosive trap? Chances are they just draw more cards and reload, something hunters cant match up to. That should be good enough a signal on the situation.

I'd expect some nerfs at some point, aiming at Skull of Gul'dan, Eye Beam, and Priestess of Fury. But hitting skull hard is perhaps good enough. The reload is absolutely absurd, and it does very well with Questing Adventurer to a frankly insane degree.

EDIT - I know its day 1. But c'mon. 75% win rate. Maybe a tiny indication? Only the tiniest, I assure you.

IIRC, Demon Hunters were meant to be weak on card generation, but strong on draw. Theoretically, classes with healing/Armor should just laugh them off. I think it's the Kael'thas combo that's the problem atm.

So I noticed something weird the first game I played Odd DH. If you start the game with an Eye Beam with Outcast active in your hand, Baku doesn't trigger.

And just to be clear the only changes I made were I cut the Southsea Deckhands and Patches (don't have Patches) for 2x Crimson Sigil Runner and x1 Priestess of Fury, so it was still an odd only deck.

(Not that it mattered, I was playing Demon Hunter so I won anyways.)

Can't say I'm unhappy they made this 3 mana. I just managed to pull 4 out of an Exotic Mountseller.

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I actually made a C'thun Demon Hunter in wild (because I figured with all the insane draw DH has would make it consistent) and it was actually pretty good, which I think shows the powerlevel of the class

Interesting, how does the combo work

The damage after turn card and 10-damage on wake up minion do need to be greatly reduced.

Also, wasn't demon hunters identity weakness supposed to be card draw? Seems like they got a lot.

/can't let priest get card draw or face damage, though, that's the class identity

Quote From Ilphelkiir

Could someone please explain the combo to me?

Not 100% sure but it looks like you use Karl’thas and some DH 0 mana  and low mana spells to play things like Inner Demon and Metamorphosis for free in a single turn.  Basically generating enough attack power for you to just one punch the opponent in the face

The Otk variant is.... annoying? I'm beating it well enough, with an absolute joke of a homebrew meme deck, but I can imagine it could be bad in the hands of a decent player.

The meta will adjust.  We just lost a year’s worth of cards so players haven’t quite figured out best decks/strategies yet.

Early on I went 5-1 with a DH recipe deck and no changes.  Then I suddenly started seeing a lot more Rez Priest and other control decks.  Became very difficult.  Although I’m sure a few tweaks are all it needs.  Was playing the big boys list.

I feel like DH having so few class cards in comparison, being the new class, it probably has been finely tuned to ensure it doesn’t suck.  That would be awful if they were like “NEW CLASS!” and it was just meh!  But I also think we need to give the community time to react and find ways to beat DH before we pass judgement on nerfs that are needed.

Is the desktop client going to be a separate application like the old Innkeeper, or a plugin for HDT? I hope it's the latter unless there are technical reasons why that won't work.

Well, now that an other expansion is released, this card may not be all that bad after all 
*Cough : DH 1-mana hero power *

 

Pack 2 - Ysiel Windsinger and Bulwark of Azzinoth

Pack 3 - Soul Mirror

Nice, dude! And a double in pack 2 followed by another legendary in pack 3. That's nuts! 

Opened 61 packs and got 7 legendaries, feeling pretty lucky!

Pack 2 - Ysiel Windsinger and Bulwark of Azzinoth

Pack 3 - Soul Mirror

Pack 10 - Kargath Bladefist

Pack 23 - Zixor, Apex Predator

Pack 27 - The Lurker Below

Pack 61 - Beastmaster Leoroxx

Pre-order Golden - Teron Gorefiend

Too early to make a determination. They in no way feel like Galakrond Shaman. 

In fact I've yet to lose against them playing as Face Hunter. 

Thanks Flux!

Spell mage does really well against them actually 

1-0 wild vs. an Odd-using Demon Hunter. Grants them +2 damage on hero power btw. I was using Highlander anti-OTK mage.

Once Frost Lich Jaina and the elementals started spawning, it was over. And summoning more 1-1s isn't smart against FLJ.

Illidan can silence taunts, but he can't do anything frozen. That new 8-mana freeze spell spawning two water elementals was made with Demon Hunter in mind, I think.

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So besides the Quest that gives 1, there are no free packs at the launch of this expansion? That's pretty dissapointing, as I went f2p this round, opening 6 packs and 0 legendaries -_-

F2P can still buy packs for gold, I do not grind yet still I was able to buy 82 packs for gold. 13 legendaries in 227 packs which is OK. Best pack was the one before the last one with one regular and one golden legendary.

I just recently bought the adventure, I only had 650 gold Kap

Suddenly Blowtorch Saboteur doesn't look so bad...

I actually made a C'thun Demon Hunter in wild (because I figured with all the insane draw DH has would make it consistent) and it was actually pretty good, which I think shows the powerlevel of the class