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You need to combo this with another card for this to make sense.. so it can't really be played on curve.. this is a bad arena card.

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Man, what a lopsided dynamic!

Dean wanted to show off the cards. You could just tell that he was proud of what Team 5 has created and had a lot to say, but Kripp was more interested in trying to win than discussing the new cards. Dean would ask questions about how Kripp felt about cards, but besides jokes, it never went the other way around. And speaking of jokes - so much sarcasm from Kripp that went over Dean's head or strategy jokes for which you could tell Dean just didn't care to have a response for. 

I don't blame Kripp so much, as this was likely much less structured due to quarantine, but this has been one of the less fun reveal streams. It's tough to get the same fun, buddy-buddy physical energy when you're not able to interact with your co-streamer in person. 

Agreed, nothing against Kripp personally but I thought he was terribly boring.  People shit on Cora for her last reveal but it was probably slightly better than this.  It's probably a lot harder to do than you'd think.

Kibler honestly seems to be the best at it.  He has the fun enthusiasm for new cards, humor, and he still plays the games well enough and talks about the cards in a somewhat competitive sense.  He's the balance that interests both the casual fan and more competitive player.

I haven't played much HS since Runeterra came out and that stream did very little to bring me back. The prevalence of RNG in so many cards just isn't fun any more. A little RNG is fine, but when it's one of the main mechanics, far too many matches are determined by dice rolls. It's hard to take the game seriously when so much is left to chance, and there's no way to play the decks I want unless I put a ton of time into playing or put a ton of money into the game, so I might as well not play at all.

If RNG is starting to bug you as well, it's worth giving Legends of Runeterra a chance. You can easily get a ton of cards for free every week and the dynamic turn system offers a lot of strategy options.

The shadow might be Ravenholdt Assassin. :P

if he could summon Ravenholdt Assassin, we might see some of him in game but no, New tokens as always...

I still have PTSD from Gadgetzan days Hunter being a complete disaster.

this is basically a slow version of Flanking Strike which is awful for tempo but could really pop off with the right build. At the very least it can also go face, which gives it the benefit of reach and lategame pressure (bonus  points if you run Stonetusk Boar to style on your opponents)

This is a scary arena card, 9/1 is no joke when your resources are not as consistent.

in constructed it's bad probably.

First glance: battlegrounds card

Second glance: actually very good in murloc decks as they are sswarmish decks and most murlocs don't rotate in shaman..

I can see shaman or paladin playing this.

So basically a 2-mana 3/3 that will have an upside most of the time. Basically guaranteed value unless you're playing vanilla minions without effects

Man, Velen's Chosen really was ahead of its time.

Good card though, I like the idea of Priest healing through minions rather than mediocre spells.

They have to pick the individual cards when you open the pack, since you could alter your collection by crafting cards or getting rewards between receiving the pack and opening it.

This is bad, definitely too slow. Sap, polymorph, freeze and you lost 7 Mana in a tempo class. 

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Well, You also might not know that Spiderling - They Who Endure deck with Iceborn Legacy back in time that Iceborn Legacy wasn't changed.

That deck was quite rare to see but so powerful and successful and easy to make you at least diamond rank. I assume that this change was a bit needed because there are so much ways to summon Spiderlings and everytime they come, They are buffed as hell. I guess they want to decrease its earlier power level and even better at late game which is quite reasonable when i think of that deck.

I think this is exactly right. It may have been rare, but it's clearly pretty popular right now - it's considered an S Tier meta deck on Mobalytics. It looks like Riot realized this deck would be a problem after the other nerfs they made, and changed Iceborn Legacy so that it would really fit better into the clone decks they want it to go into, and not the Spiders deck it would be going into today. This represents the broader philosophy Riot has espoused for this game - each card should be playable, and should fit into at least one particular deck, even if that deck isn't very powerful.

I suspect also Brood Awakening forced them to nerf Iceborn Legacy too or should i say a rework instead of nerf ? because, after you use Brood Awakening, if there is not bunch of removals/pings or an AOE spell in your opponent's hand, it is easier to use Iceborn Legacy on a spiderling.

That wasn't the case before because the list i have mentioned before did not use Brood Awakening just because old Iceborn Legacy was just enough to carry you to mid-late game. After Brood Awakening buff, probably Iceborn Legacy is way too powerful for what it does.

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I DONT CARE ABOUT STREAMERS OPPINIONS OR THEIR DECKS I CAN THINK, PLAY BUILD DECKS AND EVALUATE GAMEPLAY SITUATIONS ON MY OWN AND I DO NOT TOLERATE IF ANYBODY ASSUMES THAT I JUST COPYPASTE SOME STREAMERS OPPINION AS MINE

PS: that last Statement just had to be to stress my standpoint

 

I did not say that you are part of the crowd. People in forums, people who shares their thoughts on forums are already mostly players who plays the games with their own way. We forum people tend to discover the game with our own style and share our experiences in forums. That's why we are part of the forum and opening threads about the game and our ideas/experiences.

I know you don't copypaste some streamer's opinions as yours. That's why i started as "you might not know " as well. So don't be mad. I said that crowd example just because %60-70 of playerbase play games, especially card games just like that. You might not be the part of the crowd and have a unique way to play. I'm not judging anyone here. I'm just speaking in general.

The fact that most of the crowd (%70) exists and plays as i describe above doesn't change the truth that there is also the %30 exception part which is always changes the experiments results in sciences and logic. Statistics can't do anything but saying "There are always exceptions" fact at the end. This is why statistics mostly sucks because it generalize the fact as that is the only truth. :) it even puts us the same %30 as "unique guys" even if we all are completely different. :)

you can see that for medicines for example. "That medicine is effective %70 of patients." but the truth is you might be on the %30 part and that medicine might not be effective on you but statistics don't interest in that and says that the medicine is effective enough.  :)

 

I am still pissed that the change ruined my heimerdinger deck that was actually very good in to every matchup and literally saw 0 play by anyone but me.

Heimerdinger turrets would be a good target for the legacy but since they are 1 health they just don't really work with it anymore.

 Also who said that they have to buff brood awakening when spiders were a core part of the meta already? Its so annoying to see riot streamlining the game (like they did with flash of briliance + lux) just to make it easier for them to balance that streamlined game.

It discourages to go offroad with your deckbuilding and just is what makes me quit cardgames when it reaches too huge levels.

Brood Awakening buff was about the Riot's gameplay philosophy, if you ask me because even the spiders are the most played part of the metaplay, Brood Awakening has no room in any of the Spider deck and Riot wants cards to be a part at least 1 deck. In my opinion, that's why Brood Awakening saw a buff.

I am sorry for your Heimerdinger/Iceborn Legacy deck. I was like you when Assembly Bot has been changed and never been fan of Reworks at the end of the day. While I was playing LoL for example, I was playing Karma and she was one of my favorite champions. Then they reworked her just because she is not so popular and noone picks her. Ok, Her playrates rose but in the end, I am still missing to play with old Karma but I can't because they changed it and never revert it back. Reworks are just bad for this kind of situations. I feel you but well, there is always some chances that they might revert it back for card games. They did it for Mageseeker Investigator at last patch. keep your hopes ! :)

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Now I understand, Demon Hunter is supposed to be a card that uses Health as a ressource, draws a lot of cards and utilizes demons, and to compensate they get a bunch of efficient healing.

 

NOW WHY THE FUCK DOES WARLOCK ALWAYS HAVE TO BEG FOR SCRAPS?

"oh no, we can't give Warlock healing, that would completely offset their intended weakness and allow for abusive strategies"

so yeah, let's completely ignore that and give a tempo oriented sm0rc class with almost infinite card draw also supreme defensive tools, what could possibly go wrong?

The intended weakness of demon hunter is card generayion, not healing, and demon hunter is going to take way more damage.. are you really mad at a senjin with lifesteal?

Card generation is basically just draw for classes that aren't allowed to draw (see Priest)

I'm not so much mad at the card itself, which is mostly just decent...I'm mad because it would have fixed so many of Warlock's problems, but instead all of that support is shoved into Warlock 2.0.

It just seems really stupid that they are obviously not afraid to print strong healing options for a class that needs to take damage to be relevant, but hold back completely when it comes to the class that's historically awful whenever they don't have solid healing options, while also continuusly nerfing said class by removing some of their most syneergistic cards (Mountain and Molten Giant for instance).

I don't wanna have to play Dragon Warlock for the rest of the year just because they won't introduce proper healing options ouutside of Nether Breath

Alright, finally some actual healing for Warlock.

Works as Questlock support on the basis of Betrug (even though Dollmaster DOrian will be missed)

Also pretty strong with the Warlock Prime, since both parts are good summons.

My only fear is that any Warlock deck will have to rely on a dragon package to get those much needed healing from Nether Breath

The main reason I put in blessing of wisdom is because a deck like this really needs carddraw, and you get it back with Lady Liadrin. I agree that I should probably try to fit in the 6 mana libram.

Boy they really like to meme with Waraxe don't they?

Painfully slow like all dormands and a horrid topdeck.

this one gets worse by the fact that weapons usually benefit from the element of surprise, while this telegraphs your next action to your opponent, meaning they can just take preemptive measures to rpotect their minions.

Man I'm really not impressed with Warrior. From the looks of it we'll be playing Galakrond for the next expansion as well

DO you gain 2 Excess Mana if cast at 10 mana? otherwise it's unplayable.

Wait, is that a portal? What year do we have? Does Medivh still party?