Seems very strong. Being rush, you can suicide it and have not to worry about silence/transform. The prime version have all the good in one. Not only he can get rid of a strong opponent minion, but it also give you the best heal in form of 10 armor. 5 stars for sure and auto-include in every warrior deck, period.
Millhouse is still garbage. It doesn't matter how much starting gold he has, 2 gold refresh is literally impossible to get into lategame with unless you get perfect RNG every round.
^^This. Changing the starting gold was pointless. Yes your turn 2 you will be able to buy 2 minions, but this does nothing for Millhouse's late game, which is where he fails. The refresh at 2 is what ruins it. Like you said, unless you get perfect rolls and don't have to re-roll, Millhouse is garbage. I was really hoping they were going to change refresh to 1 with this update, and am really disappointed by the route they chose.
Maybe it will be better than I thought, but I'm predicting this does nothing to actually Buff Millhouse.
I don`t really care about BG. I only play a handfull of games in this mode in a month only at a low rank (about 5500). Of course advanced stats and more heroes to choose are nice - but for me it doesn`t matter much I have these things or not. I can still enjoy BG casually from time to time without these advantages.
I understand why some people are frustrated by these changes, but at the end Blizz "needs" to get money from this mode too, which they are working on very regulary. So I think for people who are focussed more on BG than on constructed 2500 gold for this mode is not much at all.
I think at the end a lot of people have to decide: What is more important for me? BG or constructed? Or I am interested enough in both modes to spend the needed amount of gold / money to stay "on top" in both modes?
Not clear but they may have addressed this loophole:
Crafting a card counts towards acquiring it, and any cards you acquire and later disenchant (whether golden or non-golden) count as well. This means that if you get a card that you don’t want, you can disenchant it and you will not receive it again until you have all cards of that rarity from that set.
My guess is that Blizzard would implement in such a way that you could only get the disenchanted card again through the usual RNG.
I'm really hoping you can still get Battlegrounds perks by buying packs. I was going to buy a ton of packs ANYWAY, and I hardly play arena, so this is a terrible deal for me. I think it's a great option for those who play BG and Arena more than constructed. Just not for me.
I'm still in shock!! Although I never believed they would do that, I still kept my golden copy, just holding that tiny bit of hope they would eventually do it! AND THEY DID!!!
I'm so glad!!!
But, being pragmatic, all these changes won't make a difference in Wild... they are just too slow. I think maybe only Raiding Party may see some serious play.
Wrong. I play in low ranks (18-13) and play and see EVERY type of deck you can imagine. Do you actually play Wild? There are those Quest and Secret Mages etc but people try everything for fun. I can actually rank with Exodia Paladin...
People will absolutely try all those new oldies and have a lotta fun with them, you'll see. Call of the Wild in Reno or spell hunter, Emerald Stone in secret hunter, a renewed Razakus, Yogg druid, Odd warrior with Boom, tempo rogue with Raiding party etc etc. It's gonna be a blast!
It's a bit of a shame that they went with something so generic. I enjoyed the unique flavor that the system had, even if not it's progression.
While I agree that this is an improvement, as it will be easier for incoming players to understand (and thank god, new players won't face seasoned ones anymore), there are some things I'll miss. It was enjoyable, as a Rank 5 player, to face that wave of tougher decks at the start of every month. If this new matchmaking works as I think it does, the type of opponent we'll be facing will be quite homogenous.
It's the beauty and the upsetting nature of a more free, rank-based system of matchmaking like past Hearthstone's or Shadowverse's. On one hand, there's more variety in the type of opponent - you could face someone not trying, or someone tryharding to the next rank - but on the other hand, you can also feel oppressed or stagnant in certain areas. It's a very organic system. This new type of matchmaking will put you more against opponents of your level, and as I've experienced in other games, trying to fight against a system like that can feel rewarding when you break through, but more often than not is depressingly stable. On the bright side, for better players, that burst of stars at the season start should be pretty fun, and like Shadowverse, legend is similar to Grandmaster - matchmaking is still rank-based.
Overall, I look forward to seeing what kind of experiences this will bring. It's still a cohesive ladder, but with this new matchmaking, it will also be different for everyone, which is tough to wrap one's head around. It would be interesting to see an article which discusses these things - their merits, demerits, and how it relates to other games -, as this feels like the part of the announcement which was granted the shortest time but will have the most impact.
"Players will no longer have to purchase packs. . . . Players will no longer need to purchase packs to get these perks."
Sorry, but--who was complaining about this? Was anyone really complaining "oh gee, I have to go and sink my gold into actual Hearthstone value in order to enjoy Battlegrounds"? I doubt it. The wording makes it sound like this was such a drag--having to buy packs that would give you cards that you could use in other modes, heaven forbid.
Instead, we are so lucky! We get to dump 2500 gold--25 packs worth--into a mode for literally pay-to-win perks like extra hero choices. And we are so fortunate to not get anything other than Battlegrounds out of our gold. Definitely didn't want to get anything of actual monetary value for my investment! Who needs cards, anyway?
This just makes Battlegrounds a game mode for the whales. They can have at it.
The thing is, you don't spend 3,000 gold on Battlegrounds benefits, you spend them on 150 cards with the battlegrounds benefits as an added bonus. With this, you are spending 500 less gold, yes, but you also get 30 less packs. You do get the 4 arena tickets, which is worth 600 gold, but that doesn't compensate for the amount of packs you could have bought with that 2500 gold.
All in all, you are spending 1900 gold on battlegrounds benefits alone. I am not sure why they added the arena tickets in the first place, maybe to encourage more people to play the format? Maybe to mask the price of the product? But it would have been better if they had just reduced the cost of the Battlegrounds benefits and not have added irrelevant stuff to the bundle.
Tbh, I think it's dumb for Lightning Bolt to maintain Overload 1, when Priest get Holy fire no penalty. Overload was a Tax to pay in trade off for a good effect for cheap. Just like Soulfire is deal 4 for 1(originally 0) and discard a card. Yes they have cards to interact with Overload, but keeping it on Lightning bolt just because... just doesn't make sense to me.
New Warrior Minion - Kargath Bladefist
Seems very strong. Being rush, you can suicide it and have not to worry about silence/transform. The prime version have all the good in one. Not only he can get rid of a strong opponent minion, but it also give you the best heal in form of 10 armor. 5 stars for sure and auto-include in every warrior deck, period.
WILD PLAYERS ARISE !
You are deluding yourself if you think the Wild meta will change significantly with these unnerfs. At least not at competitive ranks (or leagues).
Raza Priest may appear more often and be viable or even good, CW and Kingsbane might be viable, but that will be it.
Meta tiers and population will stay mostly the same.
Sure some unnerfed cards are cool, but then Wild is plenty of cool cards if one doesn't care about winrate...
Goodbye Leeroy Jenkins - Hearthstone Announces the 5 Cards Rotating to the Hall of Fame for 2020
I mean in the end it just means you get two legendaries for the price of one.
Or just an extra 400 dust. Either way still nice
New Priest Spell - Shadow Word: Ruin
This will be also an option prompted by Zefir right?
Introducing the Hearthstone Battlegrounds Tavern Pass - New Emotes, Choose From Four Heroes, Advanced Stats
"Oh! This is exactly what I wanted them to announce!"
-said nobody ever
Hearthstone Wild Card Unnerfs Revealed - Yogg-Saron, Raza and More!
at 5 mana it was insanely broken and autoincluded in all control/stall decks.
Hearthstone Battlegrounds Update March 17th - New Heroes In, Old Heroes Out, Minion Updates
^^This. Changing the starting gold was pointless. Yes your turn 2 you will be able to buy 2 minions, but this does nothing for Millhouse's late game, which is where he fails. The refresh at 2 is what ruins it. Like you said, unless you get perfect rolls and don't have to re-roll, Millhouse is garbage. I was really hoping they were going to change refresh to 1 with this update, and am really disappointed by the route they chose.
Maybe it will be better than I thought, but I'm predicting this does nothing to actually Buff Millhouse.
Introducing the Hearthstone Battlegrounds Tavern Pass - New Emotes, Choose From Four Heroes, Advanced Stats
I don`t really care about BG. I only play a handfull of games in this mode in a month only at a low rank (about 5500). Of course advanced stats and more heroes to choose are nice - but for me it doesn`t matter much I have these things or not. I can still enjoy BG casually from time to time without these advantages.
I understand why some people are frustrated by these changes, but at the end Blizz "needs" to get money from this mode too, which they are working on very regulary. So I think for people who are focussed more on BG than on constructed 2500 gold for this mode is not much at all.
I think at the end a lot of people have to decide: What is more important for me? BG or constructed? Or I am interested enough in both modes to spend the needed amount of gold / money to stay "on top" in both modes?
Hearthstone Becomes More Wallet Friendly - Spend Less, Collect More Unique Cards with Card Rarity Drop Protection
Not clear but they may have addressed this loophole:
My guess is that Blizzard would implement in such a way that you could only get the disenchanted card again through the usual RNG.
Introducing the Hearthstone Battlegrounds Tavern Pass - New Emotes, Choose From Four Heroes, Advanced Stats
I'm really hoping you can still get Battlegrounds perks by buying packs. I was going to buy a ton of packs ANYWAY, and I hardly play arena, so this is a terrible deal for me. I think it's a great option for those who play BG and Arena more than constructed. Just not for me.
Hearthstone Wild Card Unnerfs Revealed - Yogg-Saron, Raza and More!
Wrong. I play in low ranks (18-13) and play and see EVERY type of deck you can imagine. Do you actually play Wild? There are those Quest and Secret Mages etc but people try everything for fun. I can actually rank with Exodia Paladin...
People will absolutely try all those new oldies and have a lotta fun with them, you'll see. Call of the Wild in Reno or spell hunter, Emerald Stone in secret hunter, a renewed Razakus, Yogg druid, Odd warrior with Boom, tempo rogue with Raiding party etc etc. It's gonna be a blast!
New mage OTK with Kael'Thas
Yeah, I think the handsize will be the biggest problem as well.
The Mana Cyclone addition can maybe make it work a bit more often.
Ranked Play in Hearthstone Drops Ranked Numbers, Moves to Tiers
It's a bit of a shame that they went with something so generic. I enjoyed the unique flavor that the system had, even if not it's progression.
While I agree that this is an improvement, as it will be easier for incoming players to understand (and thank god, new players won't face seasoned ones anymore), there are some things I'll miss. It was enjoyable, as a Rank 5 player, to face that wave of tougher decks at the start of every month. If this new matchmaking works as I think it does, the type of opponent we'll be facing will be quite homogenous.
It's the beauty and the upsetting nature of a more free, rank-based system of matchmaking like past Hearthstone's or Shadowverse's. On one hand, there's more variety in the type of opponent - you could face someone not trying, or someone tryharding to the next rank - but on the other hand, you can also feel oppressed or stagnant in certain areas. It's a very organic system. This new type of matchmaking will put you more against opponents of your level, and as I've experienced in other games, trying to fight against a system like that can feel rewarding when you break through, but more often than not is depressingly stable. On the bright side, for better players, that burst of stars at the season start should be pretty fun, and like Shadowverse, legend is similar to Grandmaster - matchmaking is still rank-based.
Overall, I look forward to seeing what kind of experiences this will bring. It's still a cohesive ladder, but with this new matchmaking, it will also be different for everyone, which is tough to wrap one's head around. It would be interesting to see an article which discusses these things - their merits, demerits, and how it relates to other games -, as this feels like the part of the announcement which was granted the shortest time but will have the most impact.
New Neutral Minion - Kael'thas Sunstrider
Potential turn 6 Mind Control
Introducing the Hearthstone Battlegrounds Tavern Pass - New Emotes, Choose From Four Heroes, Advanced Stats
Hey you do get 4 arenas... it is like 600 gold value if you care for arena...
Introducing the Hearthstone Battlegrounds Tavern Pass - New Emotes, Choose From Four Heroes, Advanced Stats
And here I was thinking, so how are they going to make money from Battlegrounds? Right...
Hearthstone Battlegrounds Update March 17th - New Heroes In, Old Heroes Out, Minion Updates
Yeah, the Finley one is weird to me. I do like that they made him much more on-theme, but in practice he's just a re-roll.
Hearthstone Wild Card Unnerfs Revealed - Yogg-Saron, Raza and More!
All praise our Lord and Savor has been Reborn. ALL HAIL Yogg-Saron, Hope's End!
New Neutral Minion - Kael'thas Sunstrider
Turn 4 2xInnervate -> Kael'thas Sunstrider -> Ultimate Infestation time
Introducing the Hearthstone Battlegrounds Tavern Pass - New Emotes, Choose From Four Heroes, Advanced Stats
The wording is disingenuous.
"Players will no longer have to purchase packs. . . . Players will no longer need to purchase packs to get these perks."
Sorry, but--who was complaining about this? Was anyone really complaining "oh gee, I have to go and sink my gold into actual Hearthstone value in order to enjoy Battlegrounds"? I doubt it. The wording makes it sound like this was such a drag--having to buy packs that would give you cards that you could use in other modes, heaven forbid.
Instead, we are so lucky! We get to dump 2500 gold--25 packs worth--into a mode for literally pay-to-win perks like extra hero choices. And we are so fortunate to not get anything other than Battlegrounds out of our gold. Definitely didn't want to get anything of actual monetary value for my investment! Who needs cards, anyway?
This just makes Battlegrounds a game mode for the whales. They can have at it.
Introducing the Hearthstone Battlegrounds Tavern Pass - New Emotes, Choose From Four Heroes, Advanced Stats
The thing is, you don't spend 3,000 gold on Battlegrounds benefits, you spend them on 150 cards with the battlegrounds benefits as an added bonus. With this, you are spending 500 less gold, yes, but you also get 30 less packs. You do get the 4 arena tickets, which is worth 600 gold, but that doesn't compensate for the amount of packs you could have bought with that 2500 gold.
All in all, you are spending 1900 gold on battlegrounds benefits alone. I am not sure why they added the arena tickets in the first place, maybe to encourage more people to play the format? Maybe to mask the price of the product? But it would have been better if they had just reduced the cost of the Battlegrounds benefits and not have added irrelevant stuff to the bundle.
Hearthstone’s Priest Class is Receiving Huge Changes! New Basic and Classic Priest Cards
Tbh, I think it's dumb for Lightning Bolt to maintain Overload 1, when Priest get Holy fire no penalty. Overload was a Tax to pay in trade off for a good effect for cheap. Just like Soulfire is deal 4 for 1(originally 0) and discard a card. Yes they have cards to interact with Overload, but keeping it on Lightning bolt just because... just doesn't make sense to me.
Hearthstone Announces Year of the Phoenix - Roadmap, Expansion Teaser, Video
Howdy, team. Would you guys consider making an article with all of the cards which dust refunds can be garnered from? That would be very helpful!
Why does Runeterra have Duplicates?
Why do y’all think Runeterra allows duplicates in chests? Wouldn’t it be better for the chests to always give new cards?
Hearthstone Battlegrounds Update March 17th - New Heroes In, Old Heroes Out, Minion Updates
Surprised we didn't get a change to Cobalt to be honest.