I'm optimistic about keeping up with HS and LoR concurrently. I really wanted to get into MtG:A but the card collection is just too daunting and I had no desire to go back to grinding wins the way I did in early HS.
75% of a set completed just by doing daily quests sounds very good for f2p. It seems everybody needs to grind (=play the game) for cards. The only 2 ways to race a little bit faster are: 1) buying limited weekly wild cards with real money, 2) playing a bit more then just dailies. These committed players get cards, shards, "full" decks (slightly more stuff) several days before (slightly faster). Nobody gets all immediately. What all this mean? Is it okay? For f2p? Those who want to play HS simultaneously? If I understood all, it really seems okay. E.g. by doing daily quests, barely, if at all.. a player gets (#?) several decks. Committed players get e.g. 5 instead of one's 3 decks, maybe several days before. The thing is, everybody gets decks to play, and if you choose proper paths you can get a few, but all of them top decks, in no time. Committed players will get some more game variety, deservedly.
Now, compare this with HS and MtG:A! The difference is huge! I'm p2w :) and I don't get 30-40% of the content in HS. Plus, In LoR, you have all these rules - no duplicates, shards, wild cards, focuses, gifts and a deck cost seems half of the HS/MtG:A cost. In MtG:A I grinded for months to not get anything, or to get what you don't need. Here you get so much cards (75% until the end of an x-pack, as a f2p!!! they will provide much more of old stuff later) just by loging - and you would be able to have enough cards / decks from a half of those rewards. Which means, if LoR will be your "a 2nd thought" game, you'll still have something to play when you accidentally come back to it.
Average grindy f2p HS players have 1-2-------3 decks at the best (a lot of time to get accelerated). In LoR, you'll have that without any trouble, and by playing just a few games more (hey, just being interested in the game) you'll have double of everything. And who needs everything? Even those who will pay will not get everything, or not easily. If you really want more fun decks, then please pay some bucks for them. Most of their income will come from skins / cosmetics like in Dota2.
And the game is - good, really good. They've taken everything good from other card games; plus its own signature. The right measure of simplicity and complexity. I don't have any particular objection (except the games are maybe quick; is that a bad thing?) Visuals are cool and people will get accustomed fast to it. And cards are good. There are no stupidly and purposely bad cards like in HS. Alternatives will be just fine.
I can't see how they can make a major card game player friendly more then this?
Loving the amount of content this website has been having for the past week from Blizzcon to HS battelgrounds passing through Magic and LoR. Nicely done and its a show that the card games are well alive and not dependent of HS alone.
That's a solid point, friend. I guess we'll see. Also worth noting: we're all getting all 5 Galakronds free (unless I misunderstood) so we can try it out anyway.
I'm glad that there was some clarification with the numbers.
It looks like a LOT of effort is required to get a complete set for free per expansion. 10 games a day (and I presume they also mean 10 wins/day) + making sure you complete all the dailies sound like a full time job.
Having said that though, I'd be happy with just having 1-2 competitive decks per expansion that I could play with, much like with my current Hearthstone experience and so far it seems like this could very well be the case.
Still need Druid. I’m about 110 away. I like the new 1000 portraits, but I was so excited to be done with the grind for Goldens. Not looking forward to having another drive to get these portraits, but in the end will want them all, even wonky faced Rexxar
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I wanted to make the new pre-order card back my favorite. I used to have it on the 'Random' card back but even tho it says the new one (The Shattering) IS my favorite I keep having random backs.
I couldn't find another thread about this and wondering if anyone else has the same problem.
I feel like they already have an audience just by being a Ben Brode project. I'm sure I'm not the only one that will play the game specifically because he's involved.
Also, Marvel is a much bigger brand than WoW. so if Hearthstone being a card game in the Warcraft universe was good enough to attract an audience, then their game being based in the Marvel universe should have a similar, if not larger, effect.
I don't think they need to do much to get an audience in the door. It's capitalizing on that audience that should be their primary objective.
I got a normal quest but can't reroll it. Also all of my decks are showing missing cards even when they aren't missing. Seems to be the same issue come back in decks where you have one gold and one normal version of the card in the deck. This one is weirder though because it actually shows the card as missing in the deck but shows "max amount allowed in deck" in the collection. I have to remove the card from the deck and re-add it to resolve the issue.
The hardest thing to acquire in this space is name recognition and loyalty. Even if they create a masterpiece of a card game and have Marvel characters and everything else, it’s still not going to happen. A lot of the HS community is or was part of the WoW community, and the fact HS uses WoW lore makes it so much more fun. (I just wen back and read all about Galakrond since he’s in the new xpac... awesome storyline I never knew before). I wish them the best though!
I LOVE that you still get a reasonable amount of xp for losing a game. This way you're encouraged to just play the game however you want. If you want to have fun with a relatively weak deck or you want to try something different which may be risky because you don't know how good it will be, that's fine because you're simply rewarded for playing the game. I hate that in hearthstone you get almost nothing for losing (or just nothing if you have reached the max level with all classes), because it just makes losing feel a lot worse.
To get all that free stuff there will be some grind needed, so many people may not have all that time and will just pay to get cards. On top of that there will be poro and board skins, card backs and other cosmetics that can be acquired only by cash.
Adding more cash-only cosmetics and improving the economic system is something that HS should've done years ago.
Pretty sure they said that cosmetics such as new game boards and guardians would be "coin only" purchases. They were also open to any other ideas for cosmetics. No doubt we'll see different card backs or animated cards fall into this category if that what they choose.
I think this type of progression system is good, but we'll have to see how it works after they release a new set. Do we start with no new cards or will there be a "basic" package for the new cards that are unlocked already? Will there be Region Exp exclusive to the new set? We just don't know yet. It's not like Hearthstone where someone can purchase an obscene amount of packs and have their collection complete on day 1. We'll have to take the slow route of unlocking new cards by playing with sub-par options, or spend money/shards to get the cards we actually want to use.
Legends of Runeterra - Progression by the Numbers
I'm optimistic about keeping up with HS and LoR concurrently. I really wanted to get into MtG:A but the card collection is just too daunting and I had no desire to go back to grinding wins the way I did in early HS.
Legends of Runeterra - Progression by the Numbers
It's a small thing but I appreciate that they've used different shapes for each rarity gem to help those with colour deficiency.
Legends of Runeterra - Progression by the Numbers
75% of a set completed just by doing daily quests sounds very good for f2p. It seems everybody needs to grind (=play the game) for cards. The only 2 ways to race a little bit faster are: 1) buying limited weekly wild cards with real money, 2) playing a bit more then just dailies. These committed players get cards, shards, "full" decks (slightly more stuff) several days before (slightly faster). Nobody gets all immediately. What all this mean? Is it okay? For f2p? Those who want to play HS simultaneously? If I understood all, it really seems okay. E.g. by doing daily quests, barely, if at all.. a player gets (#?) several decks. Committed players get e.g. 5 instead of one's 3 decks, maybe several days before. The thing is, everybody gets decks to play, and if you choose proper paths you can get a few, but all of them top decks, in no time. Committed players will get some more game variety, deservedly.
Now, compare this with HS and MtG:A! The difference is huge! I'm p2w :) and I don't get 30-40% of the content in HS. Plus, In LoR, you have all these rules - no duplicates, shards, wild cards, focuses, gifts and a deck cost seems half of the HS/MtG:A cost. In MtG:A I grinded for months to not get anything, or to get what you don't need. Here you get so much cards (75% until the end of an x-pack, as a f2p!!! they will provide much more of old stuff later) just by loging - and you would be able to have enough cards / decks from a half of those rewards. Which means, if LoR will be your "a 2nd thought" game, you'll still have something to play when you accidentally come back to it.
Average grindy f2p HS players have 1-2-------3 decks at the best (a lot of time to get accelerated). In LoR, you'll have that without any trouble, and by playing just a few games more (hey, just being interested in the game) you'll have double of everything. And who needs everything? Even those who will pay will not get everything, or not easily. If you really want more fun decks, then please pay some bucks for them. Most of their income will come from skins / cosmetics like in Dota2.
And the game is - good, really good. They've taken everything good from other card games; plus its own signature. The right measure of simplicity and complexity. I don't have any particular objection (except the games are maybe quick; is that a bad thing?) Visuals are cool and people will get accustomed fast to it. And cards are good. There are no stupidly and purposely bad cards like in HS. Alternatives will be just fine.
I can't see how they can make a major card game player friendly more then this?
Legends of Runeterra - Progression by the Numbers
Loving the amount of content this website has been having for the past week from Blizzcon to HS battelgrounds passing through Magic and LoR. Nicely done and its a show that the card games are well alive and not dependent of HS alone.
Give Me A Quest! Hearthstone Dailies Have Gotten Easier
I stiill have this issue. It's so annoying:/
Convert regular HS cards into HS-BG cards
Zola the Gorgon would be broken lol
no daily quest after the update
Funny thing is, it's completed 1/2 for some reason LUL
Galakrond, the Wretched
That's a solid point, friend. I guess we'll see. Also worth noting: we're all getting all 5 Galakronds free (unless I misunderstood) so we can try it out anyway.
Legends of Runeterra - Progression by the Numbers
I'm glad that there was some clarification with the numbers.
It looks like a LOT of effort is required to get a complete set for free per expansion. 10 games a day (and I presume they also mean 10 wins/day) + making sure you complete all the dailies sound like a full time job.
Having said that though, I'd be happy with just having 1-2 competitive decks per expansion that I could play with, much like with my current Hearthstone experience and so far it seems like this could very well be the case.
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Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
Still need Druid. I’m about 110 away. I like the new 1000 portraits, but I was so excited to be done with the grind for Goldens. Not looking forward to having another drive to get these portraits, but in the end will want them all, even wonky faced Rexxar
Convert regular HS cards into HS-BG cards
I am so not looking forward to Jades in my Battlegrounds :D
A very awesome feature for HC to support though!
Descent of Dragons Pre-Order Giveaway w/ Battlegrounds Early Access
Well, I guess it'll take me more than just a positive attitude and some wishful thinking to win a draw ... Congratz to the winners tho
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Card Back Bug Since Patch?
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I wanted to make the new pre-order card back my favorite. I used to have it on the 'Random' card back but even tho it says the new one (The Shattering) IS my favorite I keep having random backs.
I couldn't find another thread about this and wondering if anyone else has the same problem.
Second Dinner Acquires More Hearthstone Talent, Adds Two New Team Members
I feel like they already have an audience just by being a Ben Brode project. I'm sure I'm not the only one that will play the game specifically because he's involved.
Also, Marvel is a much bigger brand than WoW. so if Hearthstone being a card game in the Warcraft universe was good enough to attract an audience, then their game being based in the Marvel universe should have a similar, if not larger, effect.
I don't think they need to do much to get an audience in the door. It's capitalizing on that audience that should be their primary objective.
no daily quest after the update
I got a normal quest but can't reroll it. Also all of my decks are showing missing cards even when they aren't missing. Seems to be the same issue come back in decks where you have one gold and one normal version of the card in the deck. This one is weirder though because it actually shows the card as missing in the deck but shows "max amount allowed in deck" in the collection. I have to remove the card from the deck and re-add it to resolve the issue.
Second Dinner Acquires More Hearthstone Talent, Adds Two New Team Members
The hardest thing to acquire in this space is name recognition and loyalty. Even if they create a masterpiece of a card game and have Marvel characters and everything else, it’s still not going to happen. A lot of the HS community is or was part of the WoW community, and the fact HS uses WoW lore makes it so much more fun. (I just wen back and read all about Galakrond since he’s in the new xpac... awesome storyline I never knew before). I wish them the best though!
Hearthstone's Warcraft Anniversary Event Gives Out Free Cards
Who would've thought they'd use "marketing speech" in marketing materials? Your fake shock is truly pitiful.
Legends of Runeterra - Progression by the Numbers
I LOVE that you still get a reasonable amount of xp for losing a game. This way you're encouraged to just play the game however you want. If you want to have fun with a relatively weak deck or you want to try something different which may be risky because you don't know how good it will be, that's fine because you're simply rewarded for playing the game. I hate that in hearthstone you get almost nothing for losing (or just nothing if you have reached the max level with all classes), because it just makes losing feel a lot worse.
Legends of Runeterra - Progression by the Numbers
They'll be making money in different ways I imagine. I expect to see a lot of options in the way or skins or other cosmetic enhancements.
Legends of Runeterra - Progression by the Numbers
To get all that free stuff there will be some grind needed, so many people may not have all that time and will just pay to get cards. On top of that there will be poro and board skins, card backs and other cosmetics that can be acquired only by cash.
Adding more cash-only cosmetics and improving the economic system is something that HS should've done years ago.
Legends of Runeterra - Progression by the Numbers
Pretty sure they said that cosmetics such as new game boards and guardians would be "coin only" purchases. They were also open to any other ideas for cosmetics. No doubt we'll see different card backs or animated cards fall into this category if that what they choose.
I think this type of progression system is good, but we'll have to see how it works after they release a new set. Do we start with no new cards or will there be a "basic" package for the new cards that are unlocked already? Will there be Region Exp exclusive to the new set? We just don't know yet. It's not like Hearthstone where someone can purchase an obscene amount of packs and have their collection complete on day 1. We'll have to take the slow route of unlocking new cards by playing with sub-par options, or spend money/shards to get the cards we actually want to use.
Legends of Runeterra - Progression by the Numbers
Probably a lot of skins
Second Dinner Acquires More Hearthstone Talent, Adds Two New Team Members
There are Iron Man Xbox games? Also, very good points.
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