When I first played Hearthstone, my first goal was to earn lots of gold and dust, then get strong and hit 500 wins for every golden hero. I think I achieved that around 4 years ago. After that, I didn't really have a goal so I played a lot less.
Now though, I'm slowly going for 1,000 wins on every hero. Hit 1,000 on paladin, shaman, and druid so far. Most likely warlock and warrior next.
This looks very solid. I would like to sneak Tess Greymane in there somehow, though. Also perhaps 1-2 Hench-Clan Thug to capitalize more on the hero power.
I also craft for the golden generation (usually minions more than spells or weapons). King Phaoris, Zephrys the Great, and Elise the Enlightened are my tier 1 golden crafts for their extra golden card generation. I will be crafting these 3 day 1 so hopefully I don't receive 1 of them as the freebie.
I always enjoyed playing Adapt minions from Un'Goro. This is like that, with slightly different options. Should be fun and reasonably useful. I'm guessing we are offered all 4?
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I only have Priest (Dragon Priest) & Hunter (Spell/Secret Hunter) golden though not too far (425 or so) from getting Warrior (Dr. Broken Mechs) now. I have literally 0 ladder wins with Druid (also the only class not at rank 60...) or Mage, maybe 50 each with Shaman and Rogue, and I think ~200 each with Paladin & Warlock.
So pretty far off from completion. Though if SoU Quest Druid is as good/fun as it looks those Druid numbers might get a lot better over the next few months.
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!! Warning: I found the question interesting enough to actually imagine coding these minions, and hence my main arguments revolve around speculative computer code. Hopefully you find it a bit enlightening, and I'll gladly answer any questions about it !!
Firstly, good job on compiling all the evidence: that makes these discussions so much better thought through. In light of it all I now have to agree it is likely dormant 'minions'/permanents are not actually coded as minions. Although they still share enough traits that we cannot rule it out.
Thoughts on Reliquary Seeker
Anyway, putting my programmer's hat on I went back and thought about how the code would likely be written for Reliquary Seeker to buff itself with permanents on the board. It is true that it is quicker and easier to check if there are any spaces left on the board than it is to check all of the other 6 spaces for minions. Since the card was printed before permanents needed to be considered, and has never seen nearly enough play to warrant a slight nerf by going back and changing it to not count permanents, it is plausible that is how the devs coded the card. If so, it behaves weirdly because it doesn't actually look at your board at all.
To help show the differences in code simplicity, here's what I would write the battlecry as (in C syntax, which HS very probably isn't written in but most languages work essentially the same for this stuff):
Checking for empty spaces:
if(space 7 != empty){activate battlecry;}
Note: "!=" means "not equal to", and I am assuming the minions always fill the spaces 1-7 from 1 upwards so that space 7 is only filled if there are 7 minions. The order of them is probably 1=far left, 2=second from left etc., which is only a guess but because of cards like Betrayal that care about neighbours it is helpful to keep the numbers connected (so 3 minions would occupy spaces 1, 2 and 3 rather than 2, 5 and 7 say).
Checking all spaces, reducing the number of required minions if permanents are present:
required count = 7; //note not 6 as you might as well include the seeker in this to make the code more general
count = 0;
for(i=1; i<=7; i++) // this just looks at all 7 board spaces 1 by 1.
{if(space i == occupied by a normal minion){count++;}
else if(space i == occupied by a permanent){required count--;}
else{break;} }
if(count == required count){activate battlecry;}
Of course there are other routes you could take, but it makes a point: the previous version asks 1 question, while this version has a loop, declares 2 more variables and asks way more questions. Both bits of code will do exactly the same thing.
Anyway, the purpose here is simply to say Reliquary Seeker's strange behaviour can be rationalised by the devs trying to avoid unnecessarily complicated 'spaghetti code'. Note this is a peculiarity that only occurs because is specifically requires a full board (including itself). Cards like Frostwolf Warlord have no choice but to count minions.
[edit]: I've just seen your next comment, which is pretty much the same I said above.
I then considered what we really want to find out: how would Mogu Cultist work? The first question is how is it different from the Seeker? Both need a full board, but the Cultist asks specifically for Cultists. It therefore NEEDS to check the other 6 spaces, and cannot do the whole job with a single check like the Seeker. The simplest version of the code I can think of is:
for(i=1; i<=7; i++)
{if(space i != Mogu Cultist) {battlecry = fail; break;}}
if(battlecry != fail){activate battlecry;}
which scans through the board spaces until one is not a Mogu Cultist. If it makes it to the end, the battlecry triggers.
As above, the code itself is speculative and it is possible the devs chose to add in tests for permanents. I personally doubt it but I'd love to find out on Tuesday!
I got all classes golden last month. Last one was warrior which was a really boring grind, but now I'm glad I never have to play that class again. Too bad I still have to face warriors though... The first one I got golden was druid some time after Un'Goro or KFT was released I think.
It is fair to say that I have abused Warlock, Rogue, Paladin & Priest classes ... and barely played Druid & Mage since I completed their respective grind!
The inclusion of the arena wins was a really nice touch indeed. I wonder if anyone got a golden hero portrait retrospectively kickin-in after that patch?
No point in having to locate spoof. You can make a private fireside at your house to open them early. You can activate it the same day but you just have a 4 hour window so make sure you do it during a time you will not lose out on anything fun.
Renolock is most definitely the strongest one available as of now*, but I'm now wondering what new card(s) could make it to the list, other than the obvious inclusion of Zephrys the Great. Mage has potential too. Singleton Hunter could be surprising, but it isn't a class that historically dominated the control approach ... And I haven't tried any Highlander Priest since Raza's nerf ... only time will tell if it can make a come back.
I had 4 Must-Craft-Golden Legendaries in RoS, but I didn't wait for the official release. Instead I opened the packs during pre-release and got all 4 of them, plain versions of course... Crafted 2 of them afterwards (Hagatha and Boom), but it had a bittersweet taste.
So yeah, gonna craft some golden legendaries before opening, most likely Zephrys the Great, Armagedillo and one or two quests.
Come to think of it, the only logical explanation of why the seeker acts so strangely with dormant creatures is that she just checks whether or not the board is full. She doesn't care if I control minions or permanents, while Sea Giant cares. The cruicial part in her design is checking the board spaces themselves and not the type of creatures occupying them. So this could mean, that dormants don't really block board spaces like I thought. If this is the case, then I would curse Blizzard for their card text inconsistencies. :D I want to test this interaction on my own. It would be a pity if it doesn't work. I only wanted to gladden the community and myself with an interesting deckbuild.
Anyway sorry for the wall of text above. You don't have to reply to everything, if you don't want to.
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
When I first played Hearthstone, my first goal was to earn lots of gold and dust, then get strong and hit 500 wins for every golden hero. I think I achieved that around 4 years ago. After that, I didn't really have a goal so I played a lot less.
Now though, I'm slowly going for 1,000 wins on every hero. Hit 1,000 on paladin, shaman, and druid so far. Most likely warlock and warrior next.
This looks very solid. I would like to sneak Tess Greymane in there somehow, though. Also perhaps 1-2 Hench-Clan Thug to capitalize more on the hero power.
SoU - Golden Legendary Crafting
I also craft for the golden generation (usually minions more than spells or weapons). King Phaoris, Zephrys the Great, and Elise the Enlightened are my tier 1 golden crafts for their extra golden card generation. I will be crafting these 3 day 1 so hopefully I don't receive 1 of them as the freebie.
Anka, the Buried, is tier 2. I might craft it but probably not. Tier 3 includes Raid the Sky Temple, Hack the System, Making Mummies, Dinotamer Brann, Bazaar Burglary, and Sir Finley of the Sands. There is some extra golden value here but not enough to craft. These 2 tiers are what I want from the bundled free golden legendaries. I have pretty poor luck with the bundled legendaries so I will probably get 2 cards not on this list
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Yeah you have to wait I think 1.5 hours after registering the event before it can start. Kind of annoying, but oh well.
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I always enjoyed playing Adapt minions from Un'Goro. This is like that, with slightly different options. Should be fun and reasonably useful. I'm guessing we are offered all 4?
Everything You Need to Know About the Perfect Card, Zephrys the Great
He'll send Leeroy Jenkins to deliver you some chicken.
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Hearthstone says I need to update to latest version (as of yesterday's patch) but my phone says all its apps are up to date. Wondering if others are having this issue, and how to solve. I have a Moto G4 and my Hearthstone app is through the Amazon store.
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
I only have Priest (Dragon Priest) & Hunter (Spell/Secret Hunter) golden though not too far (425 or so) from getting Warrior (Dr. Broken Mechs) now. I have literally 0 ladder wins with Druid (also the only class not at rank 60...) or Mage, maybe 50 each with Shaman and Rogue, and I think ~200 each with Paladin & Warlock.
So pretty far off from completion. Though if SoU Quest Druid is as good/fun as it looks those Druid numbers might get a lot better over the next few months.
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[Myth Busted] A cultist in the Crystalsong Forest
!! Warning: I found the question interesting enough to actually imagine coding these minions, and hence my main arguments revolve around speculative computer code. Hopefully you find it a bit enlightening, and I'll gladly answer any questions about it !!
Firstly, good job on compiling all the evidence: that makes these discussions so much better thought through. In light of it all I now have to agree it is likely dormant 'minions'/permanents are not actually coded as minions. Although they still share enough traits that we cannot rule it out.
Thoughts on Reliquary Seeker
Anyway, putting my programmer's hat on I went back and thought about how the code would likely be written for Reliquary Seeker to buff itself with permanents on the board. It is true that it is quicker and easier to check if there are any spaces left on the board than it is to check all of the other 6 spaces for minions. Since the card was printed before permanents needed to be considered, and has never seen nearly enough play to warrant a slight nerf by going back and changing it to not count permanents, it is plausible that is how the devs coded the card. If so, it behaves weirdly because it doesn't actually look at your board at all.
To help show the differences in code simplicity, here's what I would write the battlecry as (in C syntax, which HS very probably isn't written in but most languages work essentially the same for this stuff):
Checking for empty spaces:
if(space 7 != empty){activate battlecry;}
Note: "!=" means "not equal to", and I am assuming the minions always fill the spaces 1-7 from 1 upwards so that space 7 is only filled if there are 7 minions. The order of them is probably 1=far left, 2=second from left etc., which is only a guess but because of cards like Betrayal that care about neighbours it is helpful to keep the numbers connected (so 3 minions would occupy spaces 1, 2 and 3 rather than 2, 5 and 7 say).
Checking all spaces, reducing the number of required minions if permanents are present:
required count = 7; //note not 6 as you might as well include the seeker in this to make the code more general
count = 0;
for(i=1; i<=7; i++) // this just looks at all 7 board spaces 1 by 1.
{if(space i == occupied by a normal minion){count++;}
else if(space i == occupied by a permanent){required count--;}
else{break;} }
if(count == required count){activate battlecry;}
Of course there are other routes you could take, but it makes a point: the previous version asks 1 question, while this version has a loop, declares 2 more variables and asks way more questions. Both bits of code will do exactly the same thing.
Anyway, the purpose here is simply to say Reliquary Seeker's strange behaviour can be rationalised by the devs trying to avoid unnecessarily complicated 'spaghetti code'. Note this is a peculiarity that only occurs because is specifically requires a full board (including itself). Cards like Frostwolf Warlord have no choice but to count minions.
[edit]: I've just seen your next comment, which is pretty much the same I said above.
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Predictions for how Mogu Cultist will work
I then considered what we really want to find out: how would Mogu Cultist work? The first question is how is it different from the Seeker? Both need a full board, but the Cultist asks specifically for Cultists. It therefore NEEDS to check the other 6 spaces, and cannot do the whole job with a single check like the Seeker. The simplest version of the code I can think of is:
for(i=1; i<=7; i++)
{if(space i != Mogu Cultist) {battlecry = fail; break;}}
if(battlecry != fail){activate battlecry;}
which scans through the board spaces until one is not a Mogu Cultist. If it makes it to the end, the battlecry triggers.
As above, the code itself is speculative and it is possible the devs chose to add in tests for permanents. I personally doubt it but I'd love to find out on Tuesday!
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
I got all classes golden last month. Last one was warrior which was a really boring grind, but now I'm glad I never have to play that class again. Too bad I still have to face warriors though... The first one I got golden was druid some time after Un'Goro or KFT was released I think.
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Something about MtG I want to share with you, people.
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Sure https://youtu.be/PRVU7qoF44Y
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
As of August 2019, my current wins recorded on ladder per class :
Druid 615
Hunter 780
Mage 611
Paladin 986
Priest 901
Rogue 1146
Shaman 771
Warlock 1129
Warrior 810
It is fair to say that I have abused Warlock, Rogue, Paladin & Priest classes ... and barely played Druid & Mage since I completed their respective grind!
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Grats on Sir Finley Flux!
Something about MtG I want to share with you, people.
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Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
The inclusion of the arena wins was a really nice touch indeed. I wonder if anyone got a golden hero portrait retrospectively kickin-in after that patch?
Open Your Uldum Packs Early - Attend or Host a Pre-release Party This Weekend
No point in having to locate spoof. You can make a private fireside at your house to open them early. You can activate it the same day but you just have a 4 hour window so make sure you do it during a time you will not lose out on anything fun.
Wild Highlander decks with new expansion
Renolock is most definitely the strongest one available as of now*, but I'm now wondering what new card(s) could make it to the list, other than the obvious inclusion of Zephrys the Great. Mage has potential too. Singleton Hunter could be surprising, but it isn't a class that historically dominated the control approach ... And I haven't tried any Highlander Priest since Raza's nerf ... only time will tell if it can make a come back.
*Now would be a week prior the SoU release
[SoU] Midrange Quest Priest
Glad you liked it man, thank you :)
Open Your Uldum Packs Early - Attend or Host a Pre-release Party This Weekend
Wow wish there was an open all button lol.
SoU - Golden Legendary Crafting
I had 4 Must-Craft-Golden Legendaries in RoS, but I didn't wait for the official release. Instead I opened the packs during pre-release and got all 4 of them, plain versions of course... Crafted 2 of them afterwards (Hagatha and Boom), but it had a bittersweet taste.
So yeah, gonna craft some golden legendaries before opening, most likely Zephrys the Great, Armagedillo and one or two quests.
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I too hope I don't get the warrior quest in my pack .
[Myth Busted] A cultist in the Crystalsong Forest
Come to think of it, the only logical explanation of why the seeker acts so strangely with dormant creatures is that she just checks whether or not the board is full. She doesn't care if I control minions or permanents, while Sea Giant cares. The cruicial part in her design is checking the board spaces themselves and not the type of creatures occupying them. So this could mean, that dormants don't really block board spaces like I thought. If this is the case, then I would curse Blizzard for their card text inconsistencies. :D I want to test this interaction on my own. It would be a pity if it doesn't work. I only wanted to gladden the community and myself with an interesting deckbuild.
Anyway sorry for the wall of text above. You don't have to reply to everything, if you don't want to.