I started playing a few days after launch, but for the first ~2 years I was playing mostly casual. I don't really know why. Anyway, I hit my first golden hero (warlock) early last year. In 2018 I've also managed to make it to gold with priest and rogue. This year, I've hit golden shaman and warrior. I'm ~150 wins away on druid, paladin and hunter. Mage is by far my least played class, with only something around 150 ranked wins. I expect to hit at least one more golden class this year. Funny thing is, once I hit gold with a class, I don't really feel like playing it, except maybe warlock and priest (which were my favorite classes to begin with). Also, I play mostly control-ish decks (except hunter, mid range is pretty cool) so the process of getting a golden portrait with those is pretty tedious as well.
Hey, I decieded to look at some of the decks you made since you took the time to visit mine! I've shared my opinion on how I feel about [Hearthstone Card (Supreme Archeology) Not Found] but I will glady say I'm wrong if the some how becomes viable. I know you said you are going to be making a guide on the deck but I wanted to bring up that Khartut Defender could be utilized with Fel Lord Betrug and Dollmaster Dorian if you needed to utilize a bit of healing. Just something that could be interesting to consider
I agree that Mecha'thun Rogue will be a big player in the meta with Anka. Don't know why it's not being hyped more.
The question is how reliably you can draw Anka, Mecha'thun, and Myra's early. My roommate is talking about having no minions in the deck cheaper than Anka and tutoring him with a Witchwood Piper, and I've also seen the idea that you run Octo-whatever his name is as an alternative source of mass card draw.
We'll soon see how consistent it can be. My thought is that survivability will be an issue while you're waiting on Myra's to show up, and especially trying to dump your hand.
I personally am going to try it in Wild. I haven't messed around with Theorycrafting in standard, but what you threw together looks like a solid starting point. Here's what I came up with for Wild to test out.
Bit concerning that, despite being effectively nerfed, no dust refund is given for The Caverns Below
Second time they pulled the "Oh, it's not a nerf, it's a fix, which makes this entirely different!" schpiel.
I strongly agree. I find it quite concerning that the big man upstairs is doing their best to fix (break) cards and phrase it in such a way that they don't even have to offer 'free' dust by axing the card. I think that this is setting the precedent for how they are going to approach cards/decks in the future.
"Oh, such and such card was never intended to interact like that to begin with so we really aren't nerfing anything we're just fixing an interaction we coyly side glanced at and later on decided to nerf while also not giving players dust to potentially swap the card for a similar card of the same rarity. Giving out free dust destroys our profit and business model afterall."
Fast question: i havent bought the pre order bundle and i cant find the packs i want to buy in the shop, because there is only the bundle instead of the pack, i dont want to buy it, what do i do
As far as I know, you have to buy the bundle. That’s what this event is available for. Even if you were to buy individual packs, you’d be unlikely to have enough to assemble a single class deck, so the competitive component of the Brawl wouldn’t quite make sense, even if it is a pretext.
I have nearly 1500 ranked wins with Warlock and around 1000 with the rest of the 8 classes combined (second best is Mage with 240). I don't have anything against other classes, I just enjoy playing Warlock:D Zoolock, Renolock, Evenlock, Control Warlock, Demonlock, Darkest Hour Warlock, Plot Twist Warlock, Discolock, Quest Warlock, Mecha'thun Warlock, Self-damaging Warlock, Egglock, Murlock, Menagerielock, Malygos Warlock, Midrange Dragon Warlock, Aggro variant of Renolock, Patron Knife Juggler Defile OTK Warlock, Glinda Mechwarper Zilliax combo Warlock, etc. You have so many options in Warlock, such an amazing class!
I can't believe my brain captures ideas for decks so easily. Guess I actually found a way to trigger Mogu Cultist in Standard for your class. Play two Cultists in one turn and cast Been There on each - you'll have four in your hand. Then, summon three Cultists, play Sense of Spirit and play the last Cultist to summon Highkeeper Ra.
Believe me, there are a LOT of crazy combos that are possible with this class.
Fast question: i havent bought the pre order bundle and i cant find the packs i want to buy in the shop, because there is only the bundle instead of the pack, i dont want to buy it, what do i do
Since there is a card back for pre-ordering the PVE content, and as Enk said, one of the devs already mentioned that it will follow the same format as RoS, i think we can pretty much expect a very similar setting to Dalaran Heist.
I haven't seen any discussionabout this deck for the upcoming expansion but it just seems like it's gonna be insanely consistent due to one of the card that was printed.
I'm talking specifically about Anka, the Buried, this card will transform Mecha'thun into a 1 mana 1/1 and at that point you don't need any other convoluted set up to win. Rogue can obviously empty their deck easily due to Myra's Unstable Element and at that point you only need to empty your hand and save a targetable damage spell to kill the Mecha'thun. Rogues are also pretty good at playing multiple cards in a single turn so emptying your hand shouldn't be the biggest issue. ALSO it's not like you're gonna have to run a bunch of bad/weird cards to make this possible, you already want to run Backstab or Eviscerate in any rogue deck and then running something like Shiv makes sense on a deck like this, you can even kill your Mecha'thun with Walk the Plank and again, on a deck of this nature the card jusr makes sense to run.
Not sure exactly how the deck would look, you probably don't want to run too too much draw engine as it gets awkward with Myra's and in some scenarios you would just take fatigue hits trying to empty your hand, but something like novice and thalnos, maybe piper with sharks (And shivs + fan and of course Myra's) seems like enough draw to be solid and then just run the 2 cards required for the "combo" and from there good rogue cards. Again I don't know if the deck will be any good but requiring close to no set up to have an inevitable win condition seems too strong to me to not consider it as a strong deck at least from a theorycraft stand point.
Man I could even see Tempo Rogue cutting a couple cards and running this combo, like there are already Tempo rogues that run sharks and novices, just cut some other not super impactful cards and fit Shivs/Fan/Thalnos/Any draw (Some combination of this cards) and for most decks you still go for the regular tempo game (On that case Anka is a vanilla minion which won't destroy your tempo) and against stuff like Warrior you have the Mecha'thun win condition to cheese them out. Again on this scenario the hardest part would be to empty your hand after Myra's but going from an extremely unfavored match-up (Warrior) to only needing to empty your hand to win seems pretty viable if you ask me.
I even made this deck, it just took me a couple minutes so don't be to harsh but it does look decent enough:
Semi related to topic card search needs alot of work
first there should be basic dropdown for std, wild or all its pretty impossible to search stuff
second pretty much no one searches for race(blood elf, tauren vs..) it should be replaced with tribe(like beast, mech, vs)
third remove unrelated stuff like family
cost attack needs less than, equal to vs (i dont remember the card thats why im searching)
last there should be a card image view option
Yes, we know. All of that an more already on to-do list. But reveal period took a lot of time from the backend, so we had to prioritize. All of this is coming tho ;-)
My opinion: you are mixing stuff from the control deck with the taunt (which should be more minion oriented) deck. You'll end up having to kill your minions (with things like brawl, Dyn-o-matic and warpath) which shouldn't be good. I would cut out both brawls (or just leave one like an emergency switch), remove both warpaths, cut one execute and maybe switch the supercollider for another weapon with more attack value, also, you could leave one devastators and also shield slam. Then you'd free some space for more taunt minions, that could be buffed, then leaving your gameplan for a more proactive style (maybe even Elysiana could leave).
Quest rogue isn't meta anymore and it will never be - at least, not until his role as anticontrol deck is better fulfilled by other stronger deck - so this nerf isn't understandable at all.
And consistency based, I think this is wrong again. The quest reward say "you minion are 4/4", so I don't understand why Barnes token or Sonya generated card isn't a minion :/ did they transform my boar to a weapon without saying anything???
However, for me Quest Rogue died after Patches nerf, because I only played it for the fun factor of OTK from nothing shuffling 5/5 charrrrrge pirate in my deck. But I still think that we should get dust refund here, just as they did give dust refund after having changed the mechanic interaction of Yogg Saron and the spell that kills him.
I remember reading that it will follow the same format as the RoS adventure with some 'twists' according to one of the developers. What might interest me more is the reward, though. Golden Zayle was okay, but it is reasonable to expect something very different this time. Either way, I have my gold ready.
The only scenario I can think of where it might be better is if you're after a specific golden card and don't want to run the risk of getting a normal copy which would remove it from the pool.
That would be the exact scenario. I didn’t go through the trouble of getting my Rogue golden to sully her portrait with non-gold Ancient Blades.
Which Quest you'd hate to get
Raid the Sky Temple is the only one I don't at least have interesting ideas for. Some of the others might be weaker, but I'd still like to try them.
Definitely crafting Corrupt the Waters if I don't open it.
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
I started playing a few days after launch, but for the first ~2 years I was playing mostly casual. I don't really know why. Anyway, I hit my first golden hero (warlock) early last year. In 2018 I've also managed to make it to gold with priest and rogue. This year, I've hit golden shaman and warrior. I'm ~150 wins away on druid, paladin and hunter. Mage is by far my least played class, with only something around 150 ranked wins. I expect to hit at least one more golden class this year. Funny thing is, once I hit gold with a class, I don't really feel like playing it, except maybe warlock and priest (which were my favorite classes to begin with). Also, I play mostly control-ish decks (except hunter, mid range is pretty cool) so the process of getting a golden portrait with those is pretty tedious as well.
Mecha'thun Rogue
Your version is not only missing Myra's, it has Raiding Party with nothing for Raiding Party to draw.
Questing with Rafaam - Supreme Archaeology
Hey, I decieded to look at some of the decks you made since you took the time to visit mine! I've shared my opinion on how I feel about [Hearthstone Card (Supreme Archeology) Not Found] but I will glady say I'm wrong if the some how becomes viable. I know you said you are going to be making a guide on the deck but I wanted to bring up that Khartut Defender could be utilized with Fel Lord Betrug and Dollmaster Dorian if you needed to utilize a bit of healing. Just something that could be interesting to consider
Mecha'thun Rogue
I agree that Mecha'thun Rogue will be a big player in the meta with Anka. Don't know why it's not being hyped more.
The question is how reliably you can draw Anka, Mecha'thun, and Myra's early. My roommate is talking about having no minions in the deck cheaper than Anka and tutoring him with a Witchwood Piper, and I've also seen the idea that you run Octo-whatever his name is as an alternative source of mass card draw.
Mecha'thun Rogue
You forgot to put in Myra's Unstable Element :)
We'll soon see how consistent it can be. My thought is that survivability will be an issue while you're waiting on Myra's to show up, and especially trying to dump your hand.
Mecha'thun Rogue
I personally am going to try it in Wild. I haven't messed around with Theorycrafting in standard, but what you threw together looks like a solid starting point. Here's what I came up with for Wild to test out.
Wild · Unknown Rogue · by Xarkkal · 7 years, 1 month ago
Something about MtG I want to share with you, people.
Happy b day, enjoy your cards.
Saviours of Uldum Pre-Release Patch - Crystal Core Change, Card Backs, and Bug Fixes!
I strongly agree. I find it quite concerning that the big man upstairs is doing their best to fix (break) cards and phrase it in such a way that they don't even have to offer 'free' dust by axing the card. I think that this is setting the precedent for how they are going to approach cards/decks in the future.
"Oh, such and such card was never intended to interact like that to begin with so we really aren't nerfing anything we're just fixing an interaction we coyly side glanced at and later on decided to nerf while also not giving players dust to potentially swap the card for a similar card of the same rarity. Giving out free dust destroys our profit and business model afterall."
Open Your Uldum Packs Early - Attend or Host a Pre-release Party This Weekend
As far as I know, you have to buy the bundle. That’s what this event is available for. Even if you were to buy individual packs, you’d be unlikely to have enough to assemble a single class deck, so the competitive component of the Brawl wouldn’t quite make sense, even if it is a pretext.
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
I have nearly 1500 ranked wins with Warlock and around 1000 with the rest of the 8 classes combined (second best is Mage with 240). I don't have anything against other classes, I just enjoy playing Warlock:D
Zoolock, Renolock, Evenlock, Control Warlock, Demonlock, Darkest Hour Warlock, Plot Twist Warlock, Discolock, Quest Warlock, Mecha'thun Warlock, Self-damaging Warlock, Egglock, Murlock, Menagerielock, Malygos Warlock, Midrange Dragon Warlock, Aggro variant of Renolock, Patron Knife Juggler Defile OTK Warlock, Glinda Mechwarper Zilliax combo Warlock, etc.
You have so many options in Warlock, such an amazing class!
Custom Class - Time Traveler (Updated February 17th - Return to Naxxramas added!)
Believe me, there are a LOT of crazy combos that are possible with this class.
Open Your Uldum Packs Early - Attend or Host a Pre-release Party This Weekend
Fast question: i havent bought the pre order bundle and i cant find the packs i want to buy in the shop, because there is only the bundle instead of the pack, i dont want to buy it, what do i do
Tombs of Terror
Since there is a card back for pre-ordering the PVE content, and as Enk said, one of the devs already mentioned that it will follow the same format as RoS, i think we can pretty much expect a very similar setting to Dalaran Heist.
Saviors of Uldum - 5 Pack Bundles Giveaway
Same here
Mecha'thun Rogue
I haven't seen any discussionabout this deck for the upcoming expansion but it just seems like it's gonna be insanely consistent due to one of the card that was printed.
I'm talking specifically about Anka, the Buried, this card will transform Mecha'thun into a 1 mana 1/1 and at that point you don't need any other convoluted set up to win. Rogue can obviously empty their deck easily due to Myra's Unstable Element and at that point you only need to empty your hand and save a targetable damage spell to kill the Mecha'thun. Rogues are also pretty good at playing multiple cards in a single turn so emptying your hand shouldn't be the biggest issue. ALSO it's not like you're gonna have to run a bunch of bad/weird cards to make this possible, you already want to run Backstab or Eviscerate in any rogue deck and then running something like Shiv makes sense on a deck like this, you can even kill your Mecha'thun with Walk the Plank and again, on a deck of this nature the card jusr makes sense to run.
Not sure exactly how the deck would look, you probably don't want to run too too much draw engine as it gets awkward with Myra's and in some scenarios you would just take fatigue hits trying to empty your hand, but something like novice and thalnos, maybe piper with sharks (And shivs + fan and of course Myra's) seems like enough draw to be solid and then just run the 2 cards required for the "combo" and from there good rogue cards. Again I don't know if the deck will be any good but requiring close to no set up to have an inevitable win condition seems too strong to me to not consider it as a strong deck at least from a theorycraft stand point.
Man I could even see Tempo Rogue cutting a couple cards and running this combo, like there are already Tempo rogues that run sharks and novices, just cut some other not super impactful cards and fit Shivs/Fan/Thalnos/Any draw (Some combination of this cards) and for most decks you still go for the regular tempo game (On that case Anka is a vanilla minion which won't destroy your tempo) and against stuff like Warrior you have the Mecha'thun win condition to cheese them out. Again on this scenario the hardest part would be to empty your hand after Myra's but going from an extremely unfavored match-up (Warrior) to only needing to empty your hand to win seems pretty viable if you ask me.
I even made this deck, it just took me a couple minutes so don't be to harsh but it does look decent enough:
Wild · Miracle Rogue · by Mackie26 · 7 years, 1 month ago
Out of Cards Changelog - 2019-07-22
Yes, we know. All of that an more already on to-do list. But reveal period took a lot of time from the backend, so we had to prioritize. All of this is coming tho ;-)
First?! ... or maybe it simply doesn't do when it is your own
Wild Highlander decks with new expansion
Reno paladin is stupid how do you build your deck with some random hero powers
Recent Patch with a hidden Nerf to Questrogue
The only thing I know is they must not nerf Sonya the way they did to Jaina. The booty must not be touched!
Taunt Warrior - Theorycraft
My opinion: you are mixing stuff from the control deck with the taunt (which should be more minion oriented) deck. You'll end up having to kill your minions (with things like brawl, Dyn-o-matic and warpath) which shouldn't be good. I would cut out both brawls (or just leave one like an emergency switch), remove both warpaths, cut one execute and maybe switch the supercollider for another weapon with more attack value, also, you could leave one devastators and also shield slam. Then you'd free some space for more taunt minions, that could be buffed, then leaving your gameplan for a more proactive style (maybe even Elysiana could leave).
Hope it helps
Recent Patch with a hidden Nerf to Questrogue
Quest rogue isn't meta anymore and it will never be - at least, not until his role as anticontrol deck is better fulfilled by other stronger deck - so this nerf isn't understandable at all.
And consistency based, I think this is wrong again. The quest reward say "you minion are 4/4", so I don't understand why Barnes token or Sonya generated card isn't a minion :/ did they transform my boar to a weapon without saying anything???
However, for me Quest Rogue died after Patches nerf, because I only played it for the fun factor of OTK from nothing shuffling 5/5 charrrrrge pirate in my deck. But I still think that we should get dust refund here, just as they did give dust refund after having changed the mechanic interaction of Yogg Saron and the spell that kills him.
Out of Cards Changelog - 2019-07-22
Looking good! Keep up with the awesome works
OoC is THE place to be <3
Tombs of Terror
I remember reading that it will follow the same format as the RoS adventure with some 'twists' according to one of the developers. What might interest me more is the reward, though. Golden Zayle was okay, but it is reasonable to expect something very different this time. Either way, I have my gold ready.
Open Your Uldum Packs Early - Attend or Host a Pre-release Party This Weekend
That would be the exact scenario. I didn’t go through the trouble of getting my Rogue golden to sully her portrait with non-gold Ancient Blades.
Thanks for confirming!