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A new Common Warlock Minion, EVIL Recruiter, has been revealed!

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A new Rare Rogue Minion, Bazaar Mugger, has been revealed!

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A new Epic Shaman Spell, Plague of Murlocs, has been revealed!

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Use this sub-forum to discuss everything Rogue related. Discuss strategies, lore, cards, deck-building, archetypes, and more!

Rogue Basics.

Rogue Hero Lore.

For those of you that have made your way here, let's start some discussion about Rogues!

• How do you feel about this class?
• Why do you play/not play this class?
• What do you think are the most iconic cards of this class?
• What do you like/dislike about this class?
• What are your most/least favourite deck archetypes associated with this class?

I climbed to 5 pretty casually in the earlier part of this month with Cyclone Mage, but have been floundering around in that bracket for lack of a desire to really grind without swapping to "fun" decks to mix it up a bit. Still, I always come back to Mage ❤. 

I was having quite a but of trouble with Warrior for a while though having swapped back to a Dragon build for the moment with some edits has been a fair bit more consistent for me. Nightmare Amalgam is excellent as a Dragon enabler/Zilliax base and Giggling Inventor has been *far* more helpful against token/aggressive decks than Rabble Bouncer since the Dragon build curves out a board presence much more easily to contest the board in the early game. Cyclone is probably still my favorite in general due to the variance in matches.

So how about you? Trying anything odd/different, or do you have a preferred shell to stick the Giants/CC package in?

There was supposed to be a reveal a few hours ago, i don't see it anywhere on the site. The art looked like azari the devourer, does anyone know why it wasn't shown yet? 

Even though Baku and Genn are HoF now, I feel like this would be a helpful feature for the people still looking to experiment with them.

Hi all,

A previously "unscheduled" card reveal will be made about an hour from now on the Hearthstone subreddit.

Announcement is here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/cfy05o/the_shadows_are_rising_again/

Enjoy,

MemeMachine 

A new Rare Warlock Minion, Expired Merchant, has been revealed!

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So for warrior so far we've had armagedillo. My theory is that 3 of the remaining 4 will be the 3 creatures we see chasing the heroes in the trailer - so the mummy chasing finley, the tol'vir (possibly tekhan) chasing Elise and the sand worm/corridor creeper chasing reno. Not sure if this has been said before or anything but just thought of it. Any thoughts?

Title says everything, I know this is a bit early for this but I'm always a fan of Sir Finley Mrrgglton and always hated dudes on Paladin. Getting Heal, Tank Up! or Soul Tap is a dream for me for a long time and it is now possible, so I'm hyped a bit and my hype gave born of this deck. Dire Shapeshift, Poisoned Daggers or Fireblast Rank 2 could be also good for this deck in my opinion.

Anyways, it is still in progress because I'm waiting for newer reveals, let's see my deck;

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I will appreciate all of the replacements and suggestions because I really want to play Highlander Paladin with beginning of new expansion until someone new hypes me enough. :)

By the way; Thought about adding Hakkar, the Soulflayer + Prince Liam combo to this deck but couldn't be sure enough. What do you think of that ?

Recently i moved to wild because i got bored of standard and i chose a n'zoth deck to play. My winrate is lower than 50% and can't climb past rank 8, even tho i would reach rank 5 in standard in 3-4 days. I would like so tips, couldn't find a guide after preparation nerf, thus i don't know if i should still craft it. 60% of my games today were against secret mage and big priest.

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# 2x (3) Fan of Knives
# 1x (3) Shadow Strike
# 1x (4) Elven Minstrel
# 2x (4) Spirit of the Shark
# 1x (4) Walk the Plank
# 2x (5) Antique Healbot
# 2x (5) Rotten Applebaum
# 2x (5) Sludge Belcher
# 2x (6) Vanish
# 1x (9) Valeera the Hollow
# 1x (10) N'Zoth, the Corruptor
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I am really sorry if this is not where this thread should be.

As the title implies, Am I the only one bothered by this? It doesn't feel like it fits with the design of the site at all. 

What the title says. I love how there are a number of easy to find guides for several themes, but I miss a laddering guide, which would explain the difference between ranked/ casual, list the number of stars necessary to climb, the win streak rules, and the contents of the monthly reward chests.

At first I thought this to be a two turn combo, but as it turns out, you can do it in one!


Elise goes infinite with Floop, Floops Gloup, Bees! and Moonfire:

have only those 5 cards in hand, then play elise
your hand is 2x Floop (set to copy elise) 2x Gloup, 2x Bees! and 2x Moonfire

Cast one Moonfire on Elise, then double Gloup and cast Bees! on her.
as a result all 4 bees + elise die, giving you 10 mana back.

from here on out you can cast floop into bees killing floop infinite times, giving you infinite copies of moonfire along the way!

If your opponent has a minion you can kill with 5 dmg, this loop also works with brewmaster instead of floop as brewmaster on elise, then casting her again + bees  = 10mana.

A new Epic Hunter Minion, Scarlet Webweaver, has been revealed!

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Hey I'm Griffior, I've played since Naxx so that automatically gives me the credibility that I know what I'm talking about. I saw the reveal while I was at work and have been trying to figure out where these guys fit in. FYI I'll be calling the SoU Explorers the New Explorers so there's no confusion.

So we're going to look at the cards one by one to kind of figure out where they fit right now, and where they could fit into a future deck..... Even though we only have like what? 15 cards revealed thus far?

Let's start with the Big Boi Reno the Relicologist. So right off the bat we can we can see that it's automatically a move away from Cyclone mage, which is a good thing. That deck is strong enough as it is and doesn't honestly need any more help.... So where else does Reno fit in? So if we look at him, it's 10 damage randomly split among enemy MINIONS. This is obviously in flavor of the "hero coming in and killing the evil Lackeys", it's that obvious. Sure it's good against aggro and maybe some mid-range decks, but on its own, on an empty board, it's just a 6 mana 4/6 that just makes you play a restricted deck. I mean LoE Reno at least healed you if you absolutely had to play him for some tempo, but SoU Reno? Nu-uh. I honestly would have preferred equipping the Gatling-Wand with some random effects associated with whatever color wand was being used that turn. And the Mage quest doesn't really help out either so I only see Reno being played in decks that are already good on their own when there are no duplicates remaining in the deck.

Now onto the most niche of the New Explorers, Elise the Enlightened. As I said, this card is very niche, most likely for some kind of OTK/TTK. But hey, someone already found the niche in which she belongs: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/cey0ht/apm_time/ If anything the only other place I can find a home for her is towards the late game combo'ed with The Forest's Aid. There's also an infinite combo with Barista Lynchen so there could be a possibility for a Fatigue Druid, but with Highlander it would be near impossible to pull off. But I'd like to see it in HS eSports.

Dinotamer Brann makes me scratch my head the most. Objectively, it's more powerful than a vanilla King Krush because of the extra body that is Brann. But again, it's at the cost of not having duplicates in your deck. We saw this effect of a legendary card summoning another, older legendary card with Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk, it's a nice theme but it's starting to seem that they are just recycling older cards instead of actually making new, unique ones. I hope it's a trend that doesn't stick around. I don't know if Mech Hunter could use this, I haven't played it enough to honestly say it can afford to cut duplicates, but hey someone out there will try it. I'm also not sure if any Hunter deck would make the sacrifice of not having duplicates, but only time will tell.

I'm glad they kept the theme of Sir Finley alive with his battlecry, but just like in LoE, his ability is just a polarizing. Sir Finley of the Sands has the potential to high-roll a paladin into an easy victory, or just straight up make it more difficult for either player of the match. It won't be as polarizing as Baku the Mooneater because you actually have to draw AND play him in order to gain the benefit of an upgraded hero power. On top of that it won't always be an upgraded paladin hero power, and depending on the scenario and how the game is going, chances are that the player won't find the hero power they are looking for. Side note: Do we want to play Finley in the same deck as the new Paladin quest? Or are they aiming for two paladin deck archtypes with this expansion?

What leads me to believe that the cards are even more niche than they already are, is that highlander deck format are not getting support outside of the legendary minions themselves: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/ceyyv1/confirmed_by_liv_bredeen_no_other_highlander/ When I look back at Reno Jackson, Kazakus, Inkmaster Solia, Raza the Chained, and Krul the Unshackled, they were all pretty powerful on their own at the time (you couldn't tell because of fucking Jade Druid). The New Explorers (except for Brann, kind of) don't have that big swing of power that the old Highlander cards had. Elise is the only one that could set up a massive combo but it seems so niche and hard to pull off that it's almost not worth it.

Right now Bomb Warrior is a thing that's going to be around for at least 8 months after Saviors of Uldum launches I bring this up because: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/ceyzrt/bomb_warrior_probably_relevant_still_because_of/

So tell me what you all think on what I've elaborated on, maybe you can add to this conversation.

Edit 1: Apparently Blizzard still has one more Highlander card to show off. It's a neutral: https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/cewzfg/saviors_of_uldum_card_reveal_discussion_thread/eu63bhg Still probably not going to be good enough IMO.

Edit 2: Well, Making Mummies just got announced so I guess they are giving paladin some options for this meta.

I love this new GUI. I was in the middle of using the "old" one and then had to reload the page and magically, there's a top bar menu and everything, along with a drop-down menu for my account.

Great job, guys! So much easier to navigate.

I think this Quest if very fun to build around, because you want to include quite a lot of cards that summon minions for your opponent, but then you can potentially steal so much of their minions that they would feel very upset. Prefer brainwashing large minions like Shirvalla or Sylvanas.

Thoughts?

https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/wild-vs-data-reaper-report-18/

Quest Mage rises in popularity and becomes another meta-definer (killing the Control side of the spectrum, as if BP wasn't enough). Yet its popularity rises on the very top only at Legend, where the meta is actually not as competitive as it is in previous ranks.

Also, about the age-old rethoric about "Priests in Wild are forced to Big Priest as the only decent deck for the Class, and that's why BP is so popular", well, there's the counter-proof:

https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/wild-vs-data-reaper-report-18/#Priest

https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/corbetts-inner-fire-priest/

I find the fall of Aggro Druid to be the greatest bummer of this report, I didn't expect it at all. It felt so consistent after RoS.

Overall, the meta can arguably be described by the relation: Tempo > Aggro > BP/QM ~ Tempo 

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Can somebody go in and change the format for the times to read Days, Hours, Minutes instead of Hours, Minutes, Seconds.  

Would make it easier to follow. 

A new Legendary Mage Minion, Reno the Relicologist, has been revealed!

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