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Brewing is a lot like sales or marketing.

It's learning about the power of losing.

Through loss you get better.

You brew better, your decks perform better.

You might even start ruffling a few feathers.

Not because they are good players but because they haven't embraced the power of losing.

Good brewers, people like Mogwai they wouldn't just upload a list after it popped into their head.

They would pressure cook that **** till they had something that was actually good.

So I guess my message to the LOR community right now is do better...not by playing the strongest hand but learning how to lose.

I've mentioned this before but there's a big difference between meming and being off meta.

Mogwai, Swim these guys understood that it's okay to play unique lists but only if they can beat what's popular.

So right now that's two things, one is jayce, and one is elites.

Pick one if you can't beat either your deck essentially shouldn't exist in its current form.

So how do you build good off meta brews?

Well two things play the matchup and see if you can climb, two if you find that intimidating then play the matchup with a friend.

As soon as you can start winning with your trash vs their treasure you have an off meta brew.

If you can't its a meme...sorry.

Competition Theme: Eighth Wonder of the World

We're setting our sights on some locations - ones that many would say are quite...legendary.

• You must make a Legendary location card.

Demonxz95 is on a global trek in search of a place of mystery, once said to be truly a legendary location. Help them find it!

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Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Feb 27 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Mar 4 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Mar 4 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Mar 5 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Mar 5 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Mar 6 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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So we are getting 10 new variety cards coming soon to LOR and about a month to play around with them in our massive card pool.

Will it be removal, tribal support, archetype support, who knows but any of that would be awesome.

On the less exciting note they are finally gonna start "deleting" rotating cards in LOR in a month with the next expansion:

1. Good news is stable metas with top decks for those that like climbing

2. Bad news for the first time ever you will not have free acess to the complete card pool in LOR for deck crafting

Just to give a detailed account of what this means, Jayce for example exists in two of the top control decks in jayce Lux, and jayce heimer.

If he gets rotated that would free up room potentially for other control archetypes to exist.

Bad news is Lux is no longer playable in the meta.

So I know for me I'm in wait and see mode, new variety cards will be awesome, rotation might just break the game in a dozen ways we will see.

Today I found this forum and feel like I really need to talk about my two pasions

"Pasta" and "Milanesa Napolitana con Papas Fritas"

Pasta is really well known and I hthink some spaghettis with mushroom stew and cheese is just amazing.

On the other hand we have the Milanesa. It is something really popular where I used to live. You can find its recipe here

https://www.lanacion.com.ar/recetas/platos-de-comida-principal/milanesitas-tentadoras-napolitanas-nid12042014/

It is in spanish, but can be translated with help of google.

I feel this is just amazing and evven looks really tempting. You can also fry some eggs and put them on the milanesa or the french fries and just be amazed.

Probably this is not really healthy, but damn it is good.

Wanted to share an interesting build created by @ketronome using Tacter's guide building platform.

I hope this helps some of you and if you try it and it works, please feel free to comment and let know how it went for you!

HOW TO PLAY

T1: Sunspot / Pass.
T2: Morbius OR Colleen Wing (discarding Swarm or Wolverine).
T3: Lady Sif (discarding Apocalypse) OR Nakia (ideally buffing Swarm, MODOK or Apocalypse. OR Morbius + Sunspot.
T4: Dracula OR Morbius + Colleen Wing.
T5: MODOK.
T6: America Chavez + all 0-cost Swarms, ensuring Dracula discards Apocalypse.

I've talked quite a bit on many platforms how the sudden mainstream success of both yetis and Leona surprised me quite a bit.

But the weirdness doesn't stop there:

Jayce Lux at 55% this ain't no isolated incident we are talking 500 games in the last 3 days consistent winrate with good old fashioned I'm a firing my Lazar!

Ziggs Thaliyah at 55% with 1500 games played. Oh boy and for you arsenal fans it is in fact running one copy. 

I will mention it again but I mentioned on reddit that Annie ezreal was one of the top new lists and it is once again holding down 55%

Plunder back to 55% so great for thr gangplank lovers

You know what's down?

Nora cuz **** Nora and every single player that thought Nora decks where the meta and the future.

Sorry bit of a pet peave but sometimes you can't help but be right.

Overall even what 2, 3 weeks into this latest balance patch meta we are seeing huge moves on the tierlists, so I think calling this meta jello was the right call. It keeps on jiggling.

Depending on how some people are feeling on a giving day LOR "sucks" right now.

There's a lot of salt, a lot of hate, on reddit specifically.

People don't know what decks to play, and as soon as they find a list it's invalidated by another.

Oh man these midrange lists sure are strong, nevermind ryze is toxic combo is too good, how about them Swarm decks? Then we go back to midrange again and the circle continues.

Meanwhile the deck brewers are doing crazy **** and winning games.

We have a new competitive yeti list on mastering runeterra with Darius, we have daybreak at top of S tier on mobalytics.

The reality is that this meta is like jello, it keeps changing shape and nobody knows what's going to happen.

To me that's exciting.

It's dynamic, it's moving, it's constantly changing, a world where anything is possible.

But to the salt lords who have to keep their edge because it's their career or livelihood or their claim to fame this meta is cancer.

They say one deck is top tier, and next week it's not. They say Nora is everywhere then Nora drops 5%. They say FTR doesn't exist and then FTR hits 55%.

This truly is the card game of champions right now and I'm going to enjoy every drop of it till rotation hits.

Let the salt lords cry, and the hardcores get mad, I'm having a blast.

Title says it all. Well, in case you haven't heard of, a developer called Matt London wrote a post on Twitter, indicating that Blizzard is planning to bring the best experience for Wild format.

I wonder what's going to happen but unless they look into these issues below, I'm not holding my breath. These are my takes and I would like to hear your thoughts as well:

General

• The cost of cards shouldn't be reduced below 1 Mana, no matter what. Mana cheat went way overboard that a hard rule must be applied. That means cards like Emperor Thaurissan and Insight can reduce the cost down to 1 Mana, similar to how Arcane Luminary functions. This rule will keep Pillager Rogues and Secret Mages to not spam 0-Cost cards.
• If necessary, a card should have alternative/different variant for Wild format. For example, Contract Conjurer might be OK in Standard but not so much for Wild.
• A graveyard system must be implemented so Big Priests can't resurrect same minion over and over again. Right now, if Blood of G'huun dies once, you can play 2xResurrect cards right away. Here, I propose you can play Resurrect only once if G'Huun died once. This rule will also affect N'Zoth cards and similar ones, to a degree.

Druid

• Play Floop's Glorious Gloop to gain infinite mana, if utilized well. How about a hard cap, which you can gain up to 10 Mana Crystals, even if you have Guff Hero card played? Like, you have gained 9 Mana and spent them, then 2 minions killed but only one is granted to you, not two. It also shouldn't stack with cards such as Solar Eclipse.
• Wildheart Guff should have 15 Mana Crystals at max, not 20.

Mage

• Kirin Tor Mage cries in the corner because Kabal Lackey and Anonymous Informant are much better. These cards should reduce the cost of secret to 1 Mana, not zero. While at it, their cost should be upped by 1 Mana.
• Kabal Crystal Runner should reduce her cost by 1, not 2.
• Contract Conjurer should cost 1 less for each secret controlled. Maybe make him 7 Mana, perhaps?

Priest

• New graveyard system, please look above.
• Some resurrect cards Big Priests use should have mana cost raised by one. Candidates are; Resurrect+Eternal Servitude.
• Shadow Essence should summon 3/3 or 4/4 minion, not 5/5.
• Illuminate should cost 1 Mana and reduce the cost of spell by 2, not 3.
• Radiant Elemental limits design for future Priest cards, which has proven pretty much with Mind Sear. This card belongs to Ungoro expansion and it's Elemental. Thus, I propose the following change: "Your Elementals have +1 Health" which looks thematically fitting.

Rogue

• Maybe not a problem right now but either increase the condition for The Caverns Below or change its reward to set minions to 3/3 instead of 5/5.
• Swordfish should either have 2 durability or grant +1 Attack.
• Cutlass Courier has very good stats for his ability if compared with similar cards. Reducing his stats to 1/4 looks like a right balance choice.
• Scabbs Cutterbutter should be...
  • 5 Mana, rest is same.
  • 4 Mana, reduction is 2.
  • 3 Mana, reduction is 1.

Shaman

• Splitting Axe converted into a Deathrattle card rather than Battlecry one prevents the insta-snowball effect.
• Totemic Might and Totemic Surge should cost 1 Mana.
• Why are Thing from Below and Gigantotem same cards? To differentiate, I suggest Thing from Below reading "Cost 1 less for each Totem you control." 

That's all what I can think of. Let me hear your thoughts. With the insight shared from Blizzard, I really look forward to see Wild format grow even better.

Competition Theme: Naxx Out?

Some felt a bit disappointed that Return to Naxxramas didn't have that much representation from actual Naxxramas in it. Let's do something about that.

• You must make a card out of the mobs, bosses, or locations from Naxxramas.
  • Whether that's taking something that's currently unrepresented in constructed Hearthstone or simply giving one of the bosses a better card for the modern-day environment, is entirely up to you.

BloodMefist wants us to return to Naxxramas (no, not the recent mini-set) to make some cards out of what we can find there. Get out here, Purator, this for things that were actually in Naxxramas.

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Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Feb 20 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Feb 25 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Feb 25 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Feb 26 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Feb 26 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Feb 27 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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I've been on out of cards for a long time.

I've built countless decks in my spare time many of whom I bring back time and time again each time getting more refined and playable.

But most people brew in LOR to fire and forget.

Oh I tried that it didn't work rage quit now time to counter brew what I just faced.

You see that's not going to work against someone who has miles on their engine because they just instantly go to their backlog of decks and pull out something else.

Instead the solution should be simple, build to last, build to succeed and build to get better at the game.

Dude it's a meme deck...like I dont even know what to say.

Am I that strong that my junk needs hard counter brews for me to be stopped?

Wait isn't that basically the same as Majin?

Am I the meme Majin or Swim 2.0?

I might be :)

Like if you're losing to mono freijord ramp with a splash of demacia don't feel bad.

Well maybe feel a little bad but you don't need to whip put meta tenticles to feel better about yourself.

I've been building decks for yeeeeears.

Of course my memes are almost as good as meta.

It comes with practice don't feel bad about it.

Like don't listen to streamers "here's the number 1 deck to climb to diamond with"

Dude the number of times I've climbed with complete dokey that I built myself...would be every time because I don't play meta lists.

So if I' diamond with garbage I'm basically omega masters.

Of course my memes are strong.

A new Free Mage Hero, Saraad, has been revealed!

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A new Free Paladin Hero, Fanboy Leeroy, has been revealed!

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A set of new achievements popped up with the miniset.
Avalon, we miss your guides ! :)

I dont like aggro, I don't.

I play next to zero aggro generally speaking.

But Ionia otk is such a polarizing archetype that it only has one weakness.

It has a 30% matchup table into every single aggro list.

Pirates yep, bandle yep, fearsome yep, hallowed yep.

But there is one list that trumps them all.

Pink region otk (rhyze) has a 20% winrate into lurk.

So I don't care if I have to play lurk into all the smooth brains running otk by running an even smoother brain deck I will do it.

You'll lose roughly 80% of the time.

Sorry you're playing something degenerate you don't get to complain.

Competition Theme: Hail Hydra

The Year of the Hydra came with some cool mechanics. What would happen if we put them together?

• You must make a card that utilizes at least two of the follow mechanics on the same card:
  
  • Colossal
  • Dredge
  • Naga Synergy
  • "Sunken" Cards
  • Infuse
  • Locations
  • "Suspicious" Cards
  • Reborn
  • Undead Synergy
  • Manathirst
• It is also important to note that merely just being a Naga or Undead does not count as synergy for the purposes of the competition.

The year of the Hydra is coming to an end, and Demon wants us to celebrate the year by combining its mechanics together.

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Competition Phases

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• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Feb 13 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Feb 18 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Feb 18 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Feb 19 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Feb 19 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Feb 20 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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https://app.mobalytics.gg/lor/meta-tier-list

https://masteringruneterra.com/meta-tier-list/

So post patch tier lists are in and they are both a bit sketch...hear me out before the hate.

I had said that Ionia would be meta and then Bandle would surge to counter Ionia.

So what do we see in S tier we have Majin otk Ionia deck, and we have bandle aggro.

Great, but if we look at mastering runeterra there is one more sneaky category that is over performing and its one that I have talked about extensively as the counter to do nothing Bandle.

Tempo!!!

We see decks like kalista nocturn fearsome with a 57% winrate not because they are good but because it is undoubtedly a very high tempo deck.

We have my tempo illoi list largely outperforming Majin Ionia illoi combo list. (Anecdotal but I won't play 2,000 games sorry)

We have hard control lists, we have aggro lists like pirate aggro hitting 57%

So its not just hey here's the Ionia deck Majin made and 3 bandle lists to counter it.

The meta is actually exceptionally diverse and balanced.

So I wouldn't be surprised to see more major shifts moving forward.

So I have test tempo Illoi vs meta bandle and won every match.

I would only say that the only deck that hard counters mine is nasus. It just goes taller its what the deck does. But thankfully playing one big dude is really bad in this meta so if someone is gonna whip out a bad deck to counter yours that's usually where you want to be brewing wise.

I've been going on a bit of a schooling tear this fine Sunday. I do appologize I work an important job during the week so I'm getting it all out of the way now.

Sometimes winning is just winning, sometimes you need to level Champs, build a deck that does something, and play for the archetype.

A great example was the recent meta deck of echo Jinx, used to be an F tier deck leveling Champs is bad, proper deck building knowledge is bad, playing for the "quest" is bad.

But no a few numbers move around, a few subtle shift and now Echo the worst champion in the game in terms of winrate actually sported a 53% A tier stat line.

So the summarized lesson is here:

1. Play do nothing decks into excessive stall decks.

2. Play tempo decks into do nothing decks.

3. Always build for your Champs I dont care what anyone says.

4. Flex your archetype knowledge

5. Don't be a dick

There ya go LOR is my favorite card game even after Mogwais and Swims departures the people who brought me to this game and showed its possibilities 

In their wake we have Allen and Majin but their rigid mindsets and firm meta orientations make them somewhat lacking for originality 

Well nifty brings that in spades and originality my friends can't be beaten or countered.

See ya

-----final edit-----

The open attack delema:

Traditional knowledge in LOR says open attacking is always correct.

This is only true in elusive decks generally speaking and is a real hearthstone line of play.

Mtg traditional knowledge states that hp doesn't matter.

That it's better to wait things out leverage your hp as a resource and win decisively.

Illoi is very good at this and I'll share my list for what I think is one of the best decks in the meta right now.

There is some bad Ionia matchups depending on the amount of stall and their wincon but for the most part it's good into everything people are playing.

I used to run Riptide sermon but monster harpoon on average is cheaper and more efficient at eliminating midrange champions. Which the meta is full of right now.

I'm trying to tell you guys this deck is dope you can hit 3 jaxs on curve and an orn and sweat your nerdy little heart out and still lose.

You see I'm a meme player I play bad decks.

But every now and then I will play a 50% winrate list that is optimized for tempo.

Then when you do nothing you will just lose.

Don't mistake beating my meme lists with greater memes as counter brewing the meta.

You will be awakened in two seconds when someone begins to try with non garbage.

----edit----

What did I just say you won't win if I play a non bad deck....sorry. meme players are the strongest because they have learned how to be adequate with bad cards.

Oh no and now you're losing to the baaaad stuff like changling transform? I'm in your head oooooooh.

I wouldnt recommend playing that hard into a single bounce or vengence but hey you do you lol