LOR is a card game that is increasingly not only having superficial similarities with magic the gathering, but is also running into similar problems.

Namely, there are too many "set mechanics" being introduced into the game.

Culminating into perhaps what has been one of the biggest failures of an expansion to date, housing the first instance of dead champions.

Both Exodia (Rhyze) and empower (Kayle) don't really work or make sense in LOR as a game.

Like you could say we'll Bard exists and he can hard hand buff all your empower cards. Deck buff exists in freijord and a worse version of handcuff exists in Ionia, and now Targon has buff cards too.

So you should say that Kayle is amazing, she has more cross region support then any other champion in the game, but there in lies the problem.

If none of the synergies are worth pursuing then none of them will be played.

Similarly Rhyze isn't the first exodia card introduced into lor, fiora exists, healing fountain, and bandle tree.

So many of the most exciting cards in the expansion aren't actually the new champions but the pre-existing archetype support.

More ramp, more hallow (eww but yes good), more elite, more spawn for Illois, more self dmg and yes the list goes on.

For the first time in LOR history I'm more interested in crafting epic cards then champions as a free to play player because honestly who cares about this new garbage when you can play better designed decks with more support?

So what is the fix here longterm for LOR? For the first time ever I want to see more in archetype champion support. I want a 3 mana vlad enabler, I want a scout, I want a elite, I want a deep champion, a lurk champion, a daybreak nightfall champion.

In short take that massive league of legends roster you want to feed down our throat and just slam them in as an additional option for an already good deck.

Boom now everyone is a consideration and nothing is dead. While LOR believes the solution to its longterm health is just to delete old champions, I belive the opposite supplement them and stop churning out these one hit wonders.

Just my 2 cents feel free to hit me up in the comments.

Here's my source for the hotfix info - https://www.reddit.com/r/LoRCompetitive/comments/104dtgp/hotfix_later_today/

Here are the changes:

Back Alley Bar: c6 > c7

Darkin Aegis: 1|1 > 0|1

World Ender: c13 > c16

Fallen Reckoner: 4|3 > 3|2

Risen Reckoner: 6|3 > 5|2

Vayne: 3|4 > 3|3

Vayne (Level 2): 4|5 > 4|4

A new card, Shanna the She-Devil, has been revealed for Marvel Snap!

On Reveal: Add a random 1-Cost card to each location.

Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page!

This is a weekly article that puts up the current winrates and playrates of the top decks in LoR.

Feel free to argue with the commentary if you like, but the winrates and playrates are not open to debate.

Competition Theme: The Dead of Knight

The Death Knights have arisen, and now we serve them... in our job to make them new cards. Your card must be a Death Knight card, but you've got up to three different routes to go for a valid entry!

• Rotten to the Corpse
  • Design a card with Corpse synergy.
    • The most straightforward way to do is to just make a card that spends Corpses, but there are a number of other ways you can go about this.
• Triple Threat
  • Create a triple-Rune card.
    • Hint: Look at the existing triple-Rune cards that Death Knight has to get a better understand of what constitutes as a triple-Rune card.
• House of the (Un)Dead
  • Design a card with Undead synergy/interaction.
    • Your card (if it's a minion) doesn't need to be an Undead, but merely just being an Undead will not count. Otherwise, you're free to go whatever route you want as long as it uses direct interaction with Undeads.

While you're more than welcome to try to make a card that fulfills all 3 prompts, this is fully optional and will likely prove to be a challenge.

We're kicking off Season 6 with a fun competition all about Death Knights. There's no prize for winning this one, but it'll be a sign of things to come.

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Jan 2 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Jan 7 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Jan 7 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Jan 8 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Jan 8 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Jan 9 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

Discussion Thread Rules

Please note: This is a special competition and not in a normal season.

For a second I want to imagine that you're a card game designer, creating a design document that outlines the creation of a game.

You start by listing out all of the different factors that might decide winning a match or losing, and then creating logical and relavent design decisions as a direct result.

Scenario A: the person with the biggest number on one side wins.

1. Will there be spells that can influence the math represented by a creatures attack - no?

2. All spells effects will be integrated into creature text

3. Cards get played at the same time

4. There will be 3 locations which will provide a small degree of variance and decision making where none would exist otherwise

So what this effectively means is that the decks that present the strongest one sided board states invariably win...period

Scenario B: The person who goes from 20 to 0 life loses

1. Well you can cast spells to decrease life, so you need healing and counter spells to compensate

2. You have creatures, but you also must be able to block attacks so you don't die

3. You have buffs that are temporary that can only be played at the moment of combat interaction, but also permanent buffs for tribal decks

4. You can cast spells to kill units one at a time or all at once.

5. You have special wincons that don't involve life manipulation

You see the addition of a life total in a card game creates opportunities for spiraling design opportunities.

Games that don't have life Totals are simple a matter of bigger number wins, and without the means of direct interaction there is never a reason to play a deck that presents lower numbers then bigger ones unless you're just locking the opponent down so they can't play.

What you end up with is a dumb game by design, and it shouldn't be a surprise it was in the design document all along.

Hot off the presses, here's the current 23 best decks in LoR.

Aatrox is all over the place, but there are still a variety of good options out there.

Edit - I'm personally trying out a Bandle City Poro brew. So far, it's feeling quite a bit stronger than I expected.

So they printed two new self dmg cards in the most recent expansion.

Here to help, and blood Pigeon.

Both are very strong in Vlad

But guess who's number one on the rotation chopping block?

Thats right the self dmg champion

Forget about rotation Riot you'll ruin your amazing game.

Oh and this deck is actually pretty good now BTW.

Is it a meme yes, but it's a strong meme and isn't that what card games are all about?

I waxed poetic quite a bit before about how wild mysticism is the single best Freijord card since lisandra and three sisters.

Single handedly elevating the region to the likes of druid from hearthstone which was always the intention (midrange freij still saj)

But another card came out that no seems to be talking about and boy is it a doozy.

Back in the day of shurimas release people used to talk about the uber deny, and how toxic it was deleting a chain of spells for a mana crystal.

But nobody is saying anything about the cycle deny in bandlecity. You see the thing about deny is that its kind of a "bad card" ie. It's verrrry high value the turn you play it and kinda gets worse with subsequent uses.

So having deny simultaneously thin your deck and get you to your wincon is insane.

It's good too because the region needed another pillar card like pokey stick so they got pokey deny and it makes bandle city a valid control region consideration once again.

Good job Riot I'l admit I thought Darkin saga pt 2 was kind of a mess and I criticized Part 3 for being low impact but you really take a closer look there are some game changers.

So like many of you I swap cards games now and then.

Hearthstone -> gwent -> shadowverse ->mtg arena -> lor -> snap

Early impressions were good in pool 1 and 2.

I got to vibranium with an equal card pool and equal footing with opponents.

Just maximizing the gambling mechanic by knowing exactly every card the opponent could have because they had the same cards as me.

Then I got to pool 3 and the game changed. Instantly it just became about mashing as much math into the opponents face in the 6 turns alloted and nothing else mattered.

So very quickly I started to miss things like instant speed interactions, fast speed interactions, removal, board cleares, like actual "counter play" beyond location locking, movement and killmonger/chang chi which are the exception not the rule.

So for the first time ever I'm regressing back a game, I'm back maining LOR because I disagree with Mogwai I think Snap kinda sucks.

When Ben Brode took out everything in card games that was "anti fun" he also took everything out of card games that was "pro smart" and that kinda sucks.

So yeah Snap you have a lot of growing up to do in my mind to match the perfection of LOR 

Just my 5 cents feel free to fight me in the comments.

With 2022 coming to a close, I wanted to compile a nice presentation for every alternate hero skin. Alternate heroes are something I'm strangely passionate about, despite how inundated we are with them now and the fact that I don't even play Hearthstone anymore.

This is a visual list of every alternate hero skin organized by release order, as well as the year they were released. To qualify, the hero has to be a different character than the base hero, and only one character per portrait is counted. That's also including the two that are in the game but not currently obtainable.

EDIT: Apparently Whitemane and Mal'ganis are currently purchasable. My bad. Like I said, I'm not playing the game.

I do not want to be rude, but what is happening with all the random signouts I seem to be experiencing the past couple of hours?

I do not think the cause is on my side. Is it perhaps related to the upcoming major site update? 

People are very quick to flock to strategies that are simple and effective in LOR.

Zoe elusive, hallowed card pile, bilgewater aggro, not realizing that with the release of part 3 of the darkin saga that a massive number of good cards hit the table.

We got elite support, we got ramp support, we got acess to the full playset of darkin weapons which are all broken.

We got new spells, new followers, we got poros, and the list goes on.

Yet everyone is just like durrrr hallowed 1 drop, hallowed 2 drop win game plz durrrr?

Meanwhile I'm like boom quadruple ramp 8 drop what chu do now do nothing deck?

Play actual archetypes, play actual decks with actual wincons, actual champion level ups, and actual reason to play and win.

Don't just play the 54% winrate card pile vs the 52% winrate archetype.

Because you will ironically lose against anyone who isn't hedging their bets against mediocrity as hard as you are.

After playing mainly Control Blood DK in Standard since the expansion came out I want to play a faster deck for a change.

I consider to craft Pure Paladin for Standard. Here I am missing Kotori Lightblade. After playing against some Pure Paladins I can`t remember to see Kotori in action at all. I wonder how important this card is for the deck.

So: How relevant is this minion in the deck?

Is it important, nice to have or even redundant?

After nearly a month into the March of the Lich King expansion, I am checking in with you again to see how we are progressing on the latest rewards track. I hope you all had a prosperous start!

To kick things off, I only purchased the Tavern Pass this time. Since I dislike the looks of the signature cards, I decided to skip the welcome bundles altogether which saved me quite a few bucks. After opening 221 packs, my collection is not complete yet. Currently, I am missing 4 legendaries, so I have to wait a bit longer to obtain the other new coin. Having closely monitored how my gold and arcane dust levels changed for this new expansion, I think there is no more need for me to buy pack bundles in the future and still keep my reserves on par, unless the HS economy changes for the worse. 

I am currently at level 130 and I have completed all the new XP achievements. The toughest achievement was Rogue's Imminent Demise. Team 5 was kind enough for us to make a few of the annoying ones completable against friends which was very helpful indeed. Not sure if this was intentional though. 

In anticipation of the still to be added Death Knight hero portrait, I have not claimed the level 100 free reward yet. My main goals now are to reach a 1000 wins with the Death Knight class and to complete my last two non-XP gameplay achievements: Corpse Husbandry and The Reborn Identity. A long ways to go still, since I only recorded 158 wins with my new buddy, Darion Mograine.

How about you? What is your current RT level? How did the expansion launch treat you? Share as much as you like ☺️

Since the last event (don't know if that has influence) battlenet is constantly disconnecting  when trying to start playing hearthstone. And more annoying it does it while playing the game, when you finally managed to get in.

Uninstalled and reinstalled it.
Modem and router unplugged for half an hour.

I have a good connection, and i don't have disconnections with anything else.
It's pretty frustrating not to be able to play in a normal way.

Anyone has this as well?
and/or
Someone having a solution for this?

Hi there!

I just found this forum and I've been trying to find places to talk about Snap that aren't reddit.

I wrote a handful of early game guides (and one guide on Apocalypse) but they're on a different site. I couldn't see any rules about promotion so I just wanted to ask first so I don't step on toes. If the answer is no that's totally fine. Just thought a guide to early game cards and decks might be helpful to anyone who is starting out and I spend so much time thinking about Snap, I just wanted to share and discuss my lists.

Cheers and Merry Christmas!

When do they come back? And any news of larger sized comps, like custom classes or expansions?

The good is that there is a massive number of unique decks and archetypes that achieve unique goals.

The bad, there's 100ds of non unique decks that essentially just jam easy agressive high value cards that don't actually do anything.

Why is hallowed one of the highest played archetypes in the history of LOR?

It's idiot proof and it goes in everything.

Why is Freijord the least played region?

It requires you to do the most bs to be playable and win games. (Although wild mysticism is a great buff)

So why did people leave?

Well the cool decks are generally worse then the dumb decks.

Ryse releases and requires a ton of bs to play well thats 40% instantly

Ionia gets a nerf and stops being a powerhouse? Well nobody is gonna play it.

Meanwhile hallowed decks will exist in the game forever as a ubiquitous and easy form of high value aggro.

So while I will always enjoy the core LOR experience of smart deck vs smart deck playing for unique wincons.

I'll also hate the game for its lingering hearthstone elements, who curves the hardest while denying easy value for the opponent.

One of the things I liked about LOR is that there weren't any "best decks"

You could take a Swain deck that was powerful in vanilla LOR since the games launch, give it a numbers tweak during a patch and just go right back to winning with boat 3 years later.

But in snap it is a numbers game.

If you can play a card like brood and tripple or double buff it with the likes of patriot and silver surfer.

It's like gg good job you build the most vanilla of all decks that synergies with the most vanilla of all cards and you won by putting out the biggest numbers...gg go next? You win?

Ideally in card games people like to build "archetypes" not "anti archetypes" and when the anti-archetypes get better than the archetypes as your reward for spending money or grinding the game since day 1.

Like good for you I guess? Just not sure that's for me, like maybe if you want to get to infinite but if you're beating up free to play players in Plat that's just sad.

Once again we are running into the greedy pool 3 problem, every now and then you will face these decks you dont have the tools to deal with so Ben Brode can get your money.

This is why I hated hearthstone and I hate to see it here in snap too.

Hello there. I noticed recently while revising my decks. It was titles not showing intended colors. Please have a look at these two pictures below:

Noticed color difference between titles? I was trying to color titles as lime but they revert into white after saving for some reason. It wasn't the case 1-2 days ago, now I don't understand why it's the case. The issue is present not only deck shown above these pictures but other ones I've made as well.

I look forward to it being resolved. Thanks for reading and take care all.

Hello everyone, hope you all are having a great day. My concern/request is described as stated by the title. I don't know how long it will take but could you please update them? I know it might sound the fact that I am asking for Wild format but I'm actually after accuracy of what I'm going to put a card in my deck. Say, I'm making Undead Priest in Wild format but there are lots of good old cards that aren't marked as Undead can bring out some confusion. Take a look at Kel'Thuzad for example.

I really don't want to go to Hearthstone official deckbuilder site just because it's updated while its UI was complex if compared to OoC. Heed my call, please. I'm sure OoC community will appreciate the effort if you do this.

Thanks for reading everyone. I wish you all have a great day/night.

Yesterday I startet a Patriot deck. Worked fine. Today I started playing and after 10 games in which Patriot not shined up on my hand I wonder if there is some bug behind? Anyone else who faced such issue? (And yes Patriot is still in the deck :) )

short update. It could depend a change in the deck. I added blue marvel. This card is coming nearly 100%.

confirmed. Took blue marvel out. And Patriot showed up immediately.

How do you craft cards?? It wont let me if i dont own one copy already. I want shattering blast but it wont let me craft it.

I just received a message stating I got 1600 free dust. Any idea why?