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A new Epic Neutral Minion, Tight-Lipped Witness, has been revealed!

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A new Rare Neutral Minion, Afterlife Attendant, has been revealed!

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1. Pirate aggro (burn)

2. Plunder midrange (gangplank)

3. Nami Tf (combo)

4. Scouts (rally)

5. Annie/Swain TF (control)

Thats five top tier decks in one region identity with the last of which only recently having been nerfed but it still very strong and playable in my opinion just getting pushed out by shadow  grandma bunny a little bit.

Regardless even with the current count at 4 (5 for me ) top tier decks all coexisting within the Bilgewater region identity it begs the question is it just too good, and has it been too good for too long and will it ever stop being so pervasive?

Like its possible everyone is okay with Bilgewater and the Rising Tides expansion being the face of LOR but personally I do find that it exists as too much of a one stop shop at the moment.

Here are a few of its current problems that make it the best/easier region in the game to succeed or pilot right now:

1. Burn potential - six mana deal 4, spawn 3 deal 2 is a little too strong (3 of in pirate aggro, and plunder, can probably go in scouts, and is a 3 of in my Annie tf list)

2. Card draw potential 5 mana draw 2 spawn 2 I literally run as a 3 of in deep for God sakes, because it can burst block, burst attack while maintaining card advantage

3. Tempo, 1 mana summon a 3/3, 2 mana summon 4/2 of stats across 2 bodies, 4 mana scout and a million cycle bodies.

4. Elusives, way back in the day you used to run this archetype in Ionia but now it's Nami as your one stop shop

5. Amazing Chmpions, this is the real nail in the coffin or the Z Virus gene that keeps the oldest region in Runeterra evergreen in the meta to the point of dominating the meta. Mf, Tf, Gangplank babeeee never gonna die.

I think its probably time the LOR devs to think to themselves yes rising tides was an awesome expansion, people liked it, good times had by all, but has it been played out. 

Can we start exploring the dominance of other regions, like what about poor targon? I won't say Shurima cuz it does a few things so well that it's actually a pain to play against, and finally I like bandlewood there I said it sue me.

As a brewer I make it a dedicated mission to create decks with every champion that can in fact win and put up a solid fight against meta decks.

This is why I can chose to climb with things like Ohrn Jax, as easily as something listed on mobalytics.

But man does Jhin just suck right now. I hate to say it but if he is ever going to be competitively viable again he needs to A (be a brew around stun card) with lotus traps procing stun or be a dedicated burn card with lotus traps doing 2 dmg like a mystic shot (still costs 3 skill procs) or buff his synergy girl to do 2 dmg. 

As it stands right now he is an aggro card with a 50% winrate which by aggro standards is atrocious and as a control card sees zero play.

Plz re-work Jhin Riot because he is actually pretty baller voice lines etc.

Very simple prompt.

1. One person proposes a combination of two classes and the next person must create a dual card for those classes.
2. The person who makes a card has to propose two new classes.
3. You can also enforce a a card type to the mix (minions, spells...) although it's not mandatory.

I'll start by asking for a dual Mage-Warrior card :)

Was the suspicious xxx achievement fixed? Thanks

Lor has always been a game that has been balanced on a strict design curve.

 No new set whether it be awakening, world waker, bandlewood, shurima or Targon can be or should be better then Bilgewater.

But this creates one very big design problem, aka pirate aggro, always statistically a top tier deck, it has only gotten better and more consistent with time.

Riptide sermon being both an amazing tool for control, burn, and agressive decks and the value of equipment namely fisher girl allowing you to say play an on curve threat but then give mf quick attack.

It can be too much for even the best deck brewers and players to deal with, unless you tech in a crap ton of healing.

So if you ever want to play Lor in a world where pirate doesn't exist say 2 years from now, and as a secondary almost draft environment I don't think that necessarily a terrible idea.

On the flip side however to make rotation the new standard does spit in the face of what makes this game unique which is an ageless power curve.

Tf is a good card, MF is a good card, gangplank is a good card, they will never stop being good cards for as long as there are people willing to play them, that is LOR it's not a card game so much as a permanently viable competitive landscape similar to League of Legends for better or worse thats the game and I love/hate it.

She decided she might as well go for Sloth.

(She killed a Dusk but no evolve, first time I experience that ô.o)

Hey guys,

Just a fun little forum post where we can chat about those useless Achievement points everyone has in their journal these days. 

I'm currently sitting on 22035 achievement points, which I'd assume is around the average as all my achievement sections are sitting around 50 - 60% completion.

Lets see who has the highest number and the bragging rights on OoC! 

So I was able to get to rank 1 Diamond and maintain a pretty healthy winrate with entirely off meta decks.

But it takes a pretty hard-core person to deal with the onslaught of tryhards in what is turning out to be a pretty unpleasant line up of top tier decks.

Still waiting to see what the next balance patch will bring with things so turbo right now, it's very rare that it feels like you're actually playing a card game and more so Russian roulette where you want to brain yourself.

Still memes are memes and I did pretty well despite all those factors. I'll try again next meta after a very healthy patch.

Just hit diamond with an old staple the deck list is pretty much the same as I always run the archetype.

Heavy on the pings, heavy on the turbo leveling, and then with a full set of tentacle draw to A devalue open attacks, B provide card advantage, and C go deep faster.

I believe landmark is a staple for the archetype not running it is usually wrong, because again you can guarantee flips to devalue open attacks, or guarantee deep at end of turn, or just play something that is proactive but cant be removed by opponent.

Overall meta seems fine, I still don't love the dice roll decks that are fairly prevalent but a good player will always win 70% more then he losses at low plat ranks so it doesn't really matter you'll climb easily.

Welcome to the Raid Leader Format! In Raid Leader, you will have unique deck building challenges to face, along with new strategies in regards to in how you use your Hero Power, and with what cards you will have access to. Think of it as the Commander Format from MTG.

This Format is a sub-format of Standard.

Let's look at the Hero Tray (that's what I'm calling it) so it'll be easier for you to follow along.

In Raid Leader, you only have access to ONE Legendary card and it's Minion who will take the role of being the Raid Leader. After that you will construct a deck with no other Legendary cards. Firemancer Flurgl is a Shaman card, so he will have access to the Standard set of Shaman and Neutral cards when deckbuilding. As you may have noticed Flurgl, along with every other Raid Leader, has 50 health. What you don't see is that Flurgl, as well as every other Raid Leader, starts with 50 cards in the deck. I'll address the Hero Power timer below.

Some of you may have noticed that Flurgl's Hero Power is his passive effect on his card, this is where the uniqueness of Raid Leader comes into play. The Raid Leader's Hero Power will be some slight variation of there base card. Flurgl has to wait at least two turn before he can use his Hero Power, when he does use it, it goes on cooldown for two turns before he can use it again. Each Hero Power Timer is different based on the the Raid Leader, the time to wait is correlated with the base card's cost. Flurgl costs 2 mana, therefore he has to wait two turns before he can use his Hero Power. The Hero Power doesn't cost any mana, which I'm still on the fence as to whether or not that's a good call, I will definitely need OoC's feedback on this one. Earlier when I said there'll be new strategies in regards to your Hero Power, this is what I meant.

Below is a list of Raid Leaders I've pulled from each Standard expansion thus far.

Forged in the Barrens

United in Stormwind

Fractured in Alterac

Voyage to the Sunken City

Murder at Castle Nathria

Neutral

Some of you may have noticed that some of the Hero Powers are Passive, again that only becomes active once the timer runs out. What's different for the Passives is that once, they're active, they're always active. A special exception has to be made for Prince Renathal.

Now to address the elephant in the room, the neutrals. The neutral Raid Leaders have special access to all the cards in the (Standard) game, BUT they can only have ONE card per class in their deck. so their decks will consist of 10 class cards (one from each class) and 40 Neutral cards.

I acknowledge that some of these may be over powered or useless, but hey it's a custom concept.

Now will Team 5 ever put something like this into the game? Nope, because they can't sell a Battle Pass with it.

If you all have any criticisms please let me know below.

As always, thank you for reading

-Grif

Here are a few interactions (per the title) I wanted to share and see what people think. Or you can add any similar interactions you've noticed.

I played Thrive in the Shadows with an opposing Far Watch Post on the board, and the card I discovered went up in mana. This seems wrong to me, as nowhere on the card does it say that I am "drawing" this card. Intended or bugged?

When a mage swaps spell costs with Barbaric Sorceress then plays a 1-cost Rune of the Archmage, the Grey Sage Parrot should not be able to recast that spell (my opinion). That spell originally cost 9, but when they played it, they only spent 1. Feels a little cheaty.

This last one is from Mercenaries, so feel free to skip (I know not nearly as many people play Mercs). I had Mr. Smite on board with Overboard activated. My opponent's Tidemistress Athissa cast Riptide on my Edwin. What ensued was a literally endless series of attacks, as every time Smite attacked, Athissa hit Edwin (who went WAY into negative health), causing Smite to strike again. He ended up clearing the entire enemy board, even killing Queen Azshara through her resurrection. Kinda feels like that shouldn't have happened.

OK,

So this is the third I am going to start this game a fresh, right from the beginning, as a F2P (too long of a story).

My first time to climb fast as a F2P, was with Zoolock and concede Shaman (long long time ago).

My second time was with beast hunter and Reno Priest (long time ago).

What is the best cheep F2P deck out there this time? 

Thank you for your help :)

So I have thoughts about the latest tier list and let's go through the decks one by one.

1. Pirates - like yeah great aggro deck but also has essentially been the same since rising tides give or take a few new tools. If you lose to this its your fault.

2. Timeliness - also a bad deck, but it can highroll so hard that you don't even get to play the game with your good deck and for that reason hits number 1 on my nerf list (equipment timeliness interaction)

3. Ezreal Kenin - lol what? Like don't get me wrong infinite card advantage Ionia is always a valid deck because it is only 1 deck but that being said I find the champ pkg here lacking as a win condition and more often you just let them die so you can draw more cards.

4. Kindred Nasus - new equipment sac cards are scary who doesn't want infinite 7/7's in a undying deck, and for one mana? Probably not nerfable unless you make the 7/7 cost 8 or something. 

5. Kaisa - yeah honestly I like her she's easy to beat and is champ focused midrange eith only 1 decent win condition. Very balanced since her spell got put to slow speed.

A tier is mostly more infinite card advantage shenanigans,  we have a Gwen deck which is cool, Evelyn Viego still doing their thing, Annie, Darkness, Scouts.

All good stuff, so basically I only see 1 nerf that's needed (time lines equipment) because it's less of a deck and more I get to roll 2 dice each turn and hope they combine into something broken.

Oh also deep, azir irelia, Lurk, with ekko and Kaine being solid B tier options.

So, in general HS takes most headlines in this website, but what is the ACTUAL most popular game among this website users? 

Welcome to Medivh's Tower Format! Tower is a format in which there is no RNG other than when a player draws from their deck. This means no Discover, Copy, Random, or other words that can do something non-specific. Below is the ban list (which I'm not going to update regularly once this is posted) for players to build their decks around.

This Format is a sub-format of Standard AND Wild.

The goal of the Format is to cut down on "Paveling Book" scenarios and to rely purely on skill and deckbuilding, and in order to do that certain Key Words, Words,  and cards must be banned.

Banned Words & Key words:

Discover
Adapt
Random or "At the end/beginning of turn do X to another enemy/friendly character".
Copy
Numbers that aren't exact, i.e. "1-4" "3-6" as opposed to just "2".
50% Chance

Below I've listed out each each expansion which contains a list of cards that are banned from each class including neutral cards. At the bottom of each expansion is a Debatable section where I explain why or why I didn't ban a particular card and the reasoning. Below that I give my thoughts on the impact the cards currently make in the Standard and Wild Formats.

Legacy

Curse of Naxxramas

Goblins vs Gnomes

Blackrock Mountain

The Grand Tournament

The League of Explorers

Whispers of The Old Gods

One night in Karazhan

Mean Streets of Gadgetzan

Journey to Un'Goro

Knights of the Frozen Throne

Kobolds and Catacombs

The Witchwood

The Boomsday Project

Rastakhan's Rumble

Rise of Shadows

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Demon Hunter

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None

Druid

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Hunter

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Mage

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Paladin

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Priest

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Rogue

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Shaman

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Warlock

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Warrior

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Neutral

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EVIL Cable Rat

Debatable

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Catrina Muerte & Mass Resurrection because random is implied.

Heistbaron Togwaggle because one of his options has 'random" in the text.

Mage losing Khadgar, Conjurer's Calling, and Power of Creation ruins any dreams of summoning big minions out of nowhere. The combo itself is the reason why I came up with this Format………… three years ago. Control Priest losing Convincing Infiltrator is another big hit to the deck.

Saviors of Uldum

Descent of Dragons

Ashes of Outland & Demon Hunter Initiate Set

Scholomance Academy

Madness at the Darkmoon Faire

Forged in the Barrens

United in Stormwind

Fractured in Alteric Valley

Voyage to the Sunken City

Murder at Castle Nathria

If I missed any cards that should be banned or if you think certain cards please let me know below, I did numerous passovers on the list and I'm sure I've missed at least one card. There're a lot of close call cards that didn't make it onto the list and I'm not sure if I made the right call on not banning them. If you believe that some should/should not be on the list please let me know. With your comments I'll be putting them into the Debatable sections of each expansion so others can reasonings as to why or why not a card is banned.

This is one of 6 formats that will be presented in a Hearthstone Format Overhaul I'm working on.

Thank you for reading.

-Grif

Competition Theme: One Last Turn

Proper planning leads to perfect placements - make sure your card has all the set-up it needs!

• You must create a card that has an effect based on something you did the previous turn
  • Think of cards like Krag'wa, the Frog or Scorch if you're struggling to see where to take this one!

FooBars is one step ahead of you all, so you'd better make some cards that require planning a turn ahead to win!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Sep 5 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Sep 10 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Sep 10 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Sep 11 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Sep 11 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Sep 12 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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Quote From MrRhapsody

I'm at the worst mental state of my life, my creativity is gone, my passion is gone, my will is gone, and they won't come back any time soon, the whole deal of this custom expansion making for me was about the self improvement that came with it, like making cards, logos, lore, etc, but if the only thing I feel like doing now is go to work and spend the rest of the day looking at the roof waiting for the end of it, then I don't  think there's a point to keep working on it, nothing I do feels fun or meningful anymore

...

but my situation is critical and I must have full dedication to the treatment so I don't make something stupid.

I don't know the best words when it comes to this kind of situation, despite having lived it myself. When you reach that point where nothing seems to mean anything anymore and the most "productive" thing you can manage is just...surviving to the next day. I'm still trying to recover, even a full decade after I collapsed in a heap of darkness and loneliness. But I'm working on it, and that matters. Admit you need help, and seek it out: as far as I'm concerned there is no alternative waiting in the wings, so it's absolutely essential that you keep striving to make the only life you get a better one. For as long as it takes. Live, and fight your sorrow. We'll be here when you're ready to return; take all the time you need.

As for your project, I don't think I'm in a position to take it from you. I'm not making much progress on my own endeavors, including some IRL stuff: I don't want to get into the details, but I'm on the cusp of a pretty important life-changing decision and that needs my attention. I would be honored to work on it for you, but I can't give the expansion its due diligence right now :(

The flavor of the expansion is pretty cool, though, I must say. "Radioactive" could be a fun Keyword to experiment with.

One thing you can say about awakening is that it successfully shook up the play patterns and deck building requirements to such an extent I basically didn't know how to play or recognize LOR anymore.

And while I stand by the statement that some of the new additions are pretty strong as a dedicated control player, as in play and respond not just jam put card advantage till you win.

I didnt know what to do and I felt the new set was to blame, so let me share my findings on what works great if you don't want to play Ionia or Shurima, cuz I really don't:

1. 3 minimorphs feel pretty much required, Lee Sin, machine gun Aussie, Viego, all backed by 4 mana denys, so guess what burst removal can't be denied so run 3.

2. 1 mana equipment removal, I feel like silence and surpess and quietus are low key necessary as a 3 of no mater what.

3. Now you get to build the rest of your deck including pings, vengences/concerted strikes, draw, cycling creatures etc.

4. Synergy and turbo level pkg

5. Play slow play smart, generally speaking meta decks are just insane at tempo and infinite value, and turboing and just all sorts of crazy **** but once you recognize the new patters you're good here's a few examples

- snap kill monkey!

- only remove equipment that is providing additional value to the opponent appropriately judging this action takes a lot of games

- gently devalue open attack spam, this is huge for how I play control where you incentive a linear play style in the opponent that luls them into a false security that they are winning 3 dmg here or there, meanwhile they are essentially doing nothing while you for example burst level Lux or double darkness, or set up overwhelm swings etc.

- finally big take away in a 6 deny meta don't play ramp, don't play deep, these were strong picks last meta I really would not recommend right now, but lurk seems good.

So yeah back to big winstreaks in Plat one week after the expansion, my brews are doing well, but a lot of my old decks are unplayable now Awakening was a huge shift but overall a fun one, so good job Riot maybe hahaha.