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Hearthstone | Posted by | 6 years, 7 months ago
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Zephrys = Sorcerer's Apprentice

So the latest Trolden video opened with a streamer pulling a Sorcerer's Apprentice off of Zephrys into lethal.  I did some digging around and it turns out the deck he was playing was an OTK paladin that involved getting a guaranteed Sorcerer's Apprentice.  Apparently the girl is guaranteed if the board (including weapons and secrets) is completely empty, you have 2 mana left and a large hand.  However, there seem to be other conditions that I couldn't google up because the streamer in the video got her by playing a nonsensical (but deliberate!) sequence of cards into Zephrys leaving 7 mana.  If anyone understands it, I'd love to know how it works

In any case, this really got me thinking.  We basically have a method to fetch Sorcerer's Apprentice in any class now.  This has to unlock a lot more than just paladin OTKs.  The first thing I thought of was reviving APM priest, as the only card that rotated out was radiant elemental.  I had no success so far, mostly because priest has trouble clearing the board completely while having 4 mana free (though I have figured out that APM combo pieces are really really good in good old inner fire priest.  Amet, divine on him, boar, topsy then vivid nightmare on it is 14+14 damage!).  You can also apprentice with unstable evolution in wild shaman, but being wild, it's not even that good

What do you guys think?  Do you have any cool combos in mind with neutral apprentices?

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  • So the latest Trolden video opened with a streamer pulling a Sorcerer's Apprentice off of Zephrys into lethal.  I did some digging around and it turns out the deck he was playing was an OTK paladin that involved getting a guaranteed Sorcerer's Apprentice.  Apparently the girl is guaranteed if the board (including weapons and secrets) is completely empty, you have 2 mana left and a large hand.  However, there seem to be other conditions that I couldn't google up because the streamer in the video got her by playing a nonsensical (but deliberate!) sequence of cards into Zephrys leaving 7 mana.  If anyone understands it, I'd love to know how it works

    In any case, this really got me thinking.  We basically have a method to fetch Sorcerer's Apprentice in any class now.  This has to unlock a lot more than just paladin OTKs.  The first thing I thought of was reviving APM priest, as the only card that rotated out was radiant elemental.  I had no success so far, mostly because priest has trouble clearing the board completely while having 4 mana free (though I have figured out that APM combo pieces are really really good in good old inner fire priest.  Amet, divine on him, boar, topsy then vivid nightmare on it is 14+14 damage!).  You can also apprentice with unstable evolution in wild shaman, but being wild, it's not even that good

    What do you guys think?  Do you have any cool combos in mind with neutral apprentices?

  • What are you talking about he played Zephrys into leaving 7 mana. That was not what happened :o

    He played two spells and was left with 2 mana. So maybe playing spells said Zephrys that you might have a spell heavy deck and 2 mana left over nudged him into a 2-drop that would help in a spell heavy deck. How consistent that is, i dont know tho.

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  • Kripp played this OTK Paladin with a guaranteed Sorcerer's Apprentice after playing Zephrys and also talked about how it works:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN0nvMpCVsI

  • I just looked over the list of Basic and Classic 2-drops (every minion Zephrys might offer with 2 mana left). The apprentice is one of the biggest threats to leave unanswered on the board. Knife Juggler looks like a close second.

  • How would this even compute since [Hearthstone Card (Zephrys) Not Found] is 'supposedly' unaware of what's in your hand?

    • Quote From Starvald

      How would this even compute since Zephrys is 'supposedly' unaware of what's in your hand?

      Indeed, as Pezman suggested, I believe Zephrys simply chooses a strong/threatening 2-drop based on his big data knowledge (since the enemy board is empty, he doesn't have to look for removals)

       

    • He's unaware of the specific cards but does take into account hand size so he would still notice a large hand