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Regarding late June ladder decks

So I'm taking my question from the comments to the forums for some feedback. This is basically questions of wich cards to craft for a dude with decent collection but very little time to play.

I might craft Ancharrr after all since it seems like Warrior is totally impotent without it right now. Somewhat risky though since it might be affected by upcoming nerfs (without refund) and upcoming expansions.

Also, I don't play much now but still use Gala Secret Rogue on ladder. Is it obvious that Stealth is the way to go now instead of Shadowjeweler Hanar et al? I have all the cards so I will probably try it out at least.

I'm also missing a few cards for the strongest Tempo Demon Hunter lists. It's my impression that Metamorphosis is somewhat more vital than Kayn Sunfury. Am I right in this? As for now I'm running Maiev Shadowsong instead of Kayn to neutralize taunts.

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  • So I'm taking my question from the comments to the forums for some feedback. This is basically questions of wich cards to craft for a dude with decent collection but very little time to play.

    I might craft Ancharrr after all since it seems like Warrior is totally impotent without it right now. Somewhat risky though since it might be affected by upcoming nerfs (without refund) and upcoming expansions.

    Also, I don't play much now but still use Gala Secret Rogue on ladder. Is it obvious that Stealth is the way to go now instead of Shadowjeweler Hanar et al? I have all the cards so I will probably try it out at least.

    I'm also missing a few cards for the strongest Tempo Demon Hunter lists. It's my impression that Metamorphosis is somewhat more vital than Kayn Sunfury. Am I right in this? As for now I'm running Maiev Shadowsong instead of Kayn to neutralize taunts.

  • Ive been grinding up ladder with control bomb warrior, and can safely tell you that Ancharrr is very good, but far from the best card in most combo warrior decks. Its actually only very good because it tutors our your Risky Skipper, which in turn makes it very good vs dhunters, and just about any other swarm/aggro decks but is not a good weapon vs value like priest and mage. But if you don't have it but still want to go warrior, just go ahead and have a feel for it yourself. Of course, if you dont have ancharrr then the other weapons like Livewire Lance and Wrenchcalibur are mandatory to play warrior.

    Stealth rogue is better because it closes games and develop better tempo than secret rogue. Against tempo dhunter, all you need is to run double Frozen Shadoweaver and that games in your favor, something not so guaranteed with secret rogue. Secret rogue does better against druids, but in my opinion struggles a little with other decks compared to stealth. That nerf to Blackjack Stunner is more than significant since its less justification to play this instead of Sap, and the hanar health from 5 to 4 means you cant just play it on 2 anymore.

    Metamorphosis is straight up mandatory to play in any dhunter decks right now. Tempo dhunters need that extra boost to get to the finish line, since its mostly dropping Priestess of Fury. The 4 most important cards in tempo dhunters now are Metamorphosis, Altruis the Outcast, Warglaives of Azzinoth, and Glaivebound Adept. Without any of those its going to be pretty nasty climb. Kayn Sunfury is good, but easily replacable.

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  • That's some awesome response, thanks! I might try Wrenchcalibur instead of Ancharrr just to get a feeling for Pirate Warrior before I decide to craft it. But I fear that the lack of draw will weaken the deck too much.

    I agree that the nerf to Blackjack Stunner is huge, that deck is so much weaker now. 

    Metamorphosis will be my next craft for sure. I'll replace Kayn Sunfury with Maiev Shadowsong for now.

    • Quote From allthehype

      That's some awesome response, thanks! I might try Wrenchcalibur instead of Ancharrr just to get a feeling for Pirate Warrior before I decide to craft it. But I fear that the lack of draw will weaken the deck too much.

      If you're going aggro, play Livewire Lance instead of Wrenchcalibur. The bombs are only good in a longer matchup as it deactivates highlander, and you can wait out the rng draws. Pirate warrior plays its cards and hope to win from burst, games tend to be short and without Ancharrr the extra few lackeys can be decisive.

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  • Right ancharrr is risky but a staple in warrior right now. Chances are they get a new archetype and pirates lose relevance but the package with risky skipper and sky raider is powerfull!

    Stealth rogue is indeed  stronger according to HSreplay but the secret package is still very playable. 

    Metamorphosis is a must have in DH. Those attrition decks need the reach this card provides. It’s the best 2-turn-leathel setup in the game right now and I doubt it losing relevance in the archetype

  • @dapperdog do you mind to link your control bomb warrior please?

    • Quote From Shosupply

      @dapperdog do you mind to link your control bomb warrior please?

      Sure, knock yourself out.

      https://outof.cards/hearthstone/decks/16206-bomb-attrition-gameplay

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