Hearthstone

Competition Theme: The Price Of Power

We're looking for powerful minions this week - so powerful, in fact, that they come with a drawback to offset them.

• You must create a minion
• Your minion must have better than average stats or effects for its cost, with a drawback
  • Examples include Flamewreathed Faceless and Vulgar Homunculus
  • Note that merely having poor stats will not be considered a drawback.

For the purposes of this competition, Dormant is banned.

MathU wanted to see some cards that traded power for a price this week, so get those deals flowing!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Apr 6 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Apr 11 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Apr 11 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Apr 12 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Apr 12 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Apr 13 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

Discussion Thread Rules

No thread rules were added to this season. Please populate and manually edit this thread with them.

If I go from bronze 10 to bronze 5 in wild do I get any rewards or does it not stack? And if I do get rewards will they be wild or standard?

This is probably a meme deck but:

AoO Libram Quest Paladin

Wild · Quest Paladin · by Doctorpoptarts · 6 years, 4 months ago

• 1 Aldor Attendant x 2
• 1 Making Mummies x 1
• 1 Murmy x 2
• 1 Rocket Augmerchant x 2
• 2 Hand of A'dal x 2
• 2 Licensed Adventurer x 2
• 2 Murgur Murgurgle x 1
• 2 Questing Explorer x 2
• 2 Shotbot x 2
• 3 Candletaker x 2
• 3 Teron Gorefiend x 1
• 4 Bone Wraith x 2
• 4 Sky Gen'ral Kragg x 1
• 5 Al'ar x 1
• 5 Aldor Truthseeker x 2
• 7 Lady Liadrin x 1
• 9 Libram of Hope x 2
• 10 Scrapyard Colossus x 2

11,760 Dust 1,212 0 Copy Deck Code

Al'ar is just a card I wanted to try feel free to replace it.

So I usually wait far too long until I craft those great legendaries I never open. Tomorrow though I’m thinking of making an exception, and craft those I really want and hope to open those good ones you want to have but not craft. 
I’m thinking of Maiev Shadowsong (good neutral + old WC3 fave), Kayn Sunfury (probably key finisher for Illidan) and Kargath Bladefist (just too good to pass). 
What  to you think of these?

Do we have any information about Illidans upgraded heropowers form cards like Justicar Trueheart, Genn Greymane or Baku the Mooneater?

The coin is there to counter the disadvantage of going second. However in it's current state it is not an equalizer, but an (unfair) advantage for the player who goes second.

My proposal is to have the coin you get from going second ONLY give you one mana crystal. It shouldn't count as a spell /  card and will not work as a combo enabler.

Coins generated later in the game can work as normal.

What do you think?

We're kind of in a down-time between Reveal Season and a new expansion coming out, so while we wait for Tuesday I thought I'd ask a question: what are your favorite Hearthstone cards by rarity? This came up in a conversation with my father, and turns out going through the list was harder than I expected.

To start things off, here are mine:

• Basic - Frostbolt. 
• Common - Jade Spirit. I've had a lot of fun playing Jade decks; I like their inevitable nature, growing bigger threats.
• Rare - Stonehill Defender. Taunt is my favorite Keyword, and he's a staple of Quest Taunt Warrior (my favorite deck).
• Epic - Scion of Ruin. Dragons are my favorite minion type, and summoning three guys with Rush is great.
• Legendary - Fire Plume's Heart. It's got to be; sorry, Frost Lich Jaina. You know I love you too.

I assume all cards are fair game here, although you're welcome to do Standard-only if you want.

I started playing HS after the nerf to Raza so never had to deal with this deck in a big way before.

I played 7 games on the wild ladder today at Bronze 10 and 6 of those games were this deck and I lost every game. Granted I was playing non-tier 1 decks like Spell Hunter & Quest Burgle Rogue, but still every game played out the same and I got completely destroyed.

For those who played it prenerf what worked? My only thought was bring back Bomb Warrior and just shuffle bombs like mad but aside from that (which is obviously inconsistent based on draws) I’m kind of at a loss. Any help would be appreciated - as much as I love the new ladder system quite frankly this was the single least fun day I’ve ever had with this game so if this is what Wild looks like now then I’ll just dust my Wild cards and jump back to standard.

Hey guys, i've really enjoyed the year of the dragon overall and want to know what you think. 

1. What have been your favorite decks to climb or just play from each expansion meta? 
2. What rotating cards from YotR are you going to miss most?
3. Favorite YotD cards not necessarily for power?

All of the year of the dragon cards will still be around in standard for the next year, but between raven cards rotating/nerfs/power level of future expansions a lot of them won't see the kind of play they have.  So year of the dragon has had it's own unique meta.

My personal experience:

Witchwood/Year of the Raven was where I began hearthstone, so this year felt unique to me because it was the first one where every card being played was one I knew from it's release.  

In Rise of Shadows my favorite deck for the ladder was bomb warrior.  Both booms were nutty, and having a "control" deck that also could play as a sloppy midrange beat em up was really fun.  I'm definitely in the minority but I even miss the warrior mirrors.  Playing bomb vs control and bomb mirror was so ridiculous and its not something you really saw after the end of the RoS meta.  My favorite card from that expansion was Muckmorpher.  I really liked those two minutes where big shaman was a thing.  

In Saviors of Uldum, and for the entire year of the dragon, my favorite deck was quest shaman.  Now bludgeoned to death by nerfs (unjustly so imo), it used to be a super fun deck to play.  Ridiculous value engine, interesting tempo lines, lots of rng effects like discovers and mutates to try to hedge, deck was nutty.  Unfortunately the Wild cards event put an early end on my enjoyment of the deck because evolve made the deck broken and the center of the meta.  About a week into the event I took the longest break i've ever taken from HS until it was over because the game was unplayable to me.  

I also loved quest druid, and my favorite card from Uldum is Oasis Surger.  I love elementals, the art, and the nutty power level.  This deck is still very good nowadays and a go to climbing deck.

Descent of Dragons was a pretty huge spike in power, Pushing and rebuilding a lot of the other decks from the meta while adding Galakrond and another reason to play highlander.  I loved Galakrond Shaman for the brief amount of time it was almost balanced between the two waves of nerfs but it was short lived because now the deck is fairly weak.  I was really bummed how they handled Shaman this expansion, but it's still been quite enjoyable and a pretty decent meta with a lot of variety and not as much polarization.  I've enjoyed highlander hunter, aggro hunter, highlander rogue, and quest druid.  DoD added my favorite card from the expansion to quest druid, Ysera, Unleashed.  Card is nuts.  Mad flavor and closes out games in style.  

Cards i'm going to miss from year of the raven

Shudderwock (favorite card of all time, opened it in my first WW pack),

Hagatha the Witch

Flobbidinous Floop

Electra Stormsurge

Wardruid Loti

I won't type too much more in case the thread flops but I really want to know other peoples experiences and feelings with the expansions.

Hear me out... Demon Hunter has very few spells right now. That means Arcane Dynamo has a large chance of pulling Inner Demon. So, Kael'thas Sunstrider - Twin Slice, Second Slice, Inner Demon, Twin Slice, Second Slice, Inner Demon, Blur, Blur, Inner Demon, Consume Magic, draw into Mana Burn, Inner Demon. Do it with Warglaives of Azzinoth, and not even a Voidlord will stop you. That's 36 or more damage.

I am aware this is a meme. I am aware that Mages become Immune, Druids have 30K armor, and Warlocks have a board full of taunts on turn 5. I am aware you need 11 cards to do this. But, I think making this dream happen is the perfect excuse for me to dip into Wild. I just wanna punch a Priest in the face, with no way for them to stop it.

Any brave souls out there who want to join me?

Hello, I am trying to help a fellow LOR player improve his skills. I'll take any advise on how I am as a coach!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZgz0JX8_b8&feature=emb_logo

What is the last date to pre-purchase Ashes of outland bundle ?

1st Arena rotation for Ashes of Outland is coming on April 7.

Drafting Pool

"Free" Arena Ticket

Players who have an active Arena run when rotation happens will have their current run retired and will receive an Arena Ticket as compensation (plus any reward for current number of wins for that run).

• Play out your run to x-2 (x wins and max. 2 losses) if you want more rewards from your run, or just leave it at 0-0 if you dont want to bother playing.

Friendly Neighborhood Gladiator: if you do plan on leaving your run at 0-0, you might as well start two games and concede to two players, getting some positive karma :) You will get the identical rewards for 0-0 and 0-2 score.

Hello, I'm VengaDragon.

I recently dedicated my time to being a full time content creator and social media influencer. Before I posted here, I wanted to make sure I honed my skills as a streamer and built up a Twitch Community. Since January, I've been streaming four days per week and added a YouTube channel to my online presence. 

SCHEDULE & VIDEOS

TWITCH

Twitch Link: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday & Saturday at 5:45pm EDT

YOUTUBE

YouTube Link: Monday, Tuesday & Friday (New Channel & Schedule 4/4/2020)

I'm psyched to be here. Ask me questions in this thread and let's get to know each other.  Right now, I have about 10 consistent viewers and my YouTube Channel has only a few subscribers. 

NO REALLY! WHO ARE YOU?

I know I'm new and people don't know me, I also know that I'll add value to the Hearthstone Community. I'm a person who likes to be positive and spread goodwill. I played online poker full time for years and did pretty good, so much so that I have money and time to work as an influencer for the rest of 2020. I hope you have an open mind and enjoy my videos and social media stuff. You can find out more about me as I post more content and go all in on Hearthstone. 

Meta-Defining

• Battlefiend
• Umberwing
• Eye Beam
• Kayn Sunfury
• Hand of A'dal
• Greyheart Sage
• Blackjack Stunner

Great

• Chaos Strike - best comparison is an improved Shiv
• Sightless Watcher
• Glaivebound Adept
• Twin Slice
• Blade Dance
• Priestess of Fury
• Skull of Gul'dan
• Furious Felfin
• Crimson Sigil Runner
• Fungal Fortunes - if Book of Specters could find a deck, this can too
• Zixor, Apex Predator - only in a deck dedicated to buffing him, naturally, but I think that could become meta
• Mok'Nathal Lion
• Pack Tactics
• Scavenger's Ingenuity
• Astromancer Solarian 
• Evocation
• Incanter's Flow
• Murgur Murgurgle
• Kul Tiran Chaplain - remember Kabal Talonpriest?
• Soul Mirror - it's like Lightbomb that doesn't hurt your own board and leaves behind compensation minions for every enemy minion that doesn't die, for just 1 more mana
• Shadowjeweler Hanar
• Serpentshrine Portal
• Kanrethad Ebonlocke - solid addition to solid Zoo builds
• Darkglare - will be the key combo piece of some meme deck, but will also just be in other decks
• Kargath Bladefist
• Bladestorm
• Imprisoned Gan'arg
• Maiev Shadowsong - overrated, not going to be as ubiquitous as Zilliax
• Burrowing Scorpid
• Guardian Augmerchant - will be at least as ubiquitous as Fire Fly

Good

• Shadowhoof Slayer
• Aldrachi Warblades
• Satyr Overseer
• Chaos Nova - very strong card, but for now I think the control DH deck's weakness will pull it down
• Consume Magic
• Ur'zul Horror - may not have room to be played because of an abundance of strong 1-drops in the competition
• Feast of Souls
• Altruis the Outcast
• Illidari Felblade
• Raging Felscreamer
• Command the Illidari
• Metamorphosis - overrated
• Warglaives of Azzinoth - overrated
• Imprisoned Antaen
• Fel Summoner
• Immolation Aura - not sure about the deck it goes in, though
• Spectral Sight
• Glowfly Swarm
• Augmented Porcupine - a personal favorite of mine, so I may be overrating it, but I don't think so
• Deep Freeze
• Libram of Hope
• Underlight Angling Rod
• Aldor Truthseeker
• Libram of Wisdom
• Imprisoned Sungill
• Libram of Justice
• Aldor Attendant
• Scarlet Subjugator - deceptively powerful in a trading-heavy deck
• Natalie Seline - it's a sad statement on power creep that I can "only" rate this Good
• Reliquary of Souls
• Skeletal Dragon
• Sethekk Veilweaver
• Dragonmaw Sentinel
• Imprisoned Homunculus
• Akama
• Bamboozle
• Ambush
• Ashtongue Slayer
• Spymistress
• Shattered Rumbler - might be wishful thinking on my part, but it looks decent on paper
• Marshspawn
• Keli'dan the Breaker
• Shadow Council - Warlock can afford to run Sacrificial Pact and other tech cards with this as a backup way to use them
• Imprisoned Scrap Imp - I thought this card was seriously overrated, but now I'm seeing that's because I was thinking of it as a Zoo card, when it's a Handlock card
• Nightshade Matron - combo with Hand of Gul'dan is amazing but unreliable
• Kael'thas Sunstrider - centerpiece of mid-tier decks
• Teron Gorefiend

Niche

• Coordinated Strike - just doesn't have the oomph of Unleash the Hounds
• Soul Cleave - only in dedicated lifesteal decks
• Inner Demon
• Blur - I think it's being underrated, but that's not saying too much
• Wrathscale Naga
• Wrathspike Brute
• Flamereaper - overrated and slow
• Hulking Overfiend
• Pit Commander
• Coilfang Warlord
• Ashtongue Battlelord
• Archspore Msshi'fn
• Ironbark
• Overgrowth - seriously overrated; Wild Growth is dead at 3 mana and this will be similar
• Imprisoned Satyr
• Bogbeam
• Nagrand Slam - probably with Kael'thas Sunstrider
• Helboar
• Apexis Smuggler
• Imprisoned Observer
• Netherwind Portal
• Lady Liadrin
• Power Infusion - maybe not in the immediate meta, but eventually will find a deck that uses it as much as paladins use Blessing of Kings
• Dragonmaw Overseer
• Apotheosis
• Renew
• Dirty Tricks
• Lady Vashj
• Boggspine Knuckles
• Torrent
• Vivid Spores
• Bogstrok Clacker
• Hand of Gul'dan
• Bloodboil Brute
• Bonechewer Raider
• Magtheridon - very good but only in very specific decks
• Mo'arg Artificer
• Dragonmaw Sky Stalker
• Rustsworn Cultist - maybe in DH token decks
• Terrorguard Escapee - good for setting up Sea Giant or similar
• Frozen Shadoweaver
• Bonechewer Brawler
• Rocket Augmerchant

Abstain (i.e. I have no idea; could be good or could be garbage)

• Soul Split
• Scrap Shot
• Starscryer
• The Dark Portal
• Corsair Cache

Meme

• Mana Burn - in the long run people will realize they're paying 2.5 mana to deny their opponents 2
• Nethrandamus
• Netherwalker
• Ysiel Windsinger
• Marsh Hydra - the kind of solid, slow card that's broken in Arena but never sees competitive Constructed play
• Beastmaster Leoroxx
• Imprisoned Felmaw
• Apexis Blast
• Font of Power
• Psychic Conjurer - only in dedicated thief priest decks
• Shadow Word: Ruin - nobody plans to let their opponent build up that big a board
• Cursed Vagrant
• The Lurker Below
• Totemic Reflection
• Enhanced Dreadlord
• Unstable Felbolt
• Warmaul Challenger
• Waste Warden - too specific a tech
• Replicat-o-tron
• Blistering Rot
• Bonechewer Vanguard
• Ruststeed Raider
• Felfin Navigator
• Overconfident Orc - it's no Tar Creeper, just hit it with a 1/1 and then value-trade it away
• Imprisoned Vilefiend
• Ethereal Augmerchant
• Soulbound Ashtongue - only for Warlock combo decks

Garbage

• Germination
• Psyche Split
• Bulwark of Azzinoth
• Scrap Golem
• Sword and Board
• Al'ar - too easy to just kill the egg
• Scrapyard Colossus - ok off of evolve effects or in Arena, though
• Infectious Sporeling
• Supreme Abyssal
• Scavenging Shivarra
• Disguised Wanderer
• Rustsworn Initiate

Players can register their own one-person event, which still allows the early opening of Ashes of Outland Card Packs the weekend of April 3 – 6, along with a first taste of Demon Hunter gameplay versus AI.

I cant get a match against the AI in the fireside

Hi guys! Are you feeling lucky today?

I set up a Fireside Gathering and just finished my pack opening... and WOW is was a really great one! Probably my best one ever (I play since Beta).

I got both bundles, so there was a total of 145 packs.

Here is the results:

Commons - 100%
Rares - 100%
Epics - 74% (34 of 46)
Legendaries - 54% (15* of 25)

*One is Kael'thas Sunstrider, so it does not count as "opened".

I am truly impressed by this high amount of orange cards! It`s one every 10.4 packs!!!
Here is the list!

Metamorphosis

Archspore Msshi'fn

Ysiel Windsinger

Beastmaster Leoroxx

Evocation

Murgur Murgurgle

Lady Liadrin

Reliquary of Souls

Akama

Lady Vashj - Golden

The Lurker Below

Keli'dan the Breaker

Teron Gorefiend - Golden

Maiev Shadowsong

I just wanted to share my joy and with this send good energies to all of you! Happy opening and good luck!

Please also share your results here!

Has anyone started a Fireside Gathering to open their packs yet?  I tried it but I couldn't open the packs.   I read that all gatherings are private now but you can still get Nemsy.    I can't establish my tavern yet so i'm guessing I have to wait until after it's over to do that and then I should get Nemsy?  I stupidly made it last 8 hours lol.  Oh well.

What do you think about new cards, what will be good in Wild?

Kael'thas Sunstrider is already being played and if not great, it is definitely a fun card (for the player that is using it).

Druid is getting interesting cards, for example Overgrowth and Imprisoned Satyr. I bet we will see a Dane video with Ysiel Windsinger.

Both Mage legendaries are really solid - Astromancer Solarian, Evocation. Reno mage is as we know Tier 1 now, and they both seem to be good addition to it.

Priest's Soul Mirror - interesting card but I can't tell if it's great or bad.

Akama for rogue - too slow or is it?

That's my two cents. + I hope we will see Demon Hunter being played.

Greetings there! I'm here to present you my version of how I would change Druid's Core Sets. I'm jumping the bandwagon a bit with the changes after seeing some other people trying their reworks and generally accepting classes may need some updates.

This time, I've put crossfire onto Druid. Some people may be surpirsed I'm taking a closer look at this class instead of some other ones, but I'm willing to experiment with a slightly differend approach to Druid than most people are used to. I'll try to shift the class to resemble more of what nature in real life can be. Expect to be a bit like my previous Warlock thread where I may start with too many expansion cards going to Core sets. Feel free to correct me and pinpoint mistakes.

Strengths and Weaknesses

New Sets

Explanations

Hall of Fame

Some cards that were considered, but didn't make the cut