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Focused Study - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

Competition Theme: Focused Study

It's time to really narrow your area of expertise this week - make sure you School everyone at it!

  • You must create a minion which has an effect when all spells in your deck are the same School
    • We're looking for specific Schools here - "If all spells in your deck are Fire", for example

MathU is back again with another prompt - and this one is asking you to really hit those books!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

  • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Jun 14 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Jun 19 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Jun 19 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Jun 20 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Jun 20 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Jun 21 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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  • Competition Theme: Focused Study

    It's time to really narrow your area of expertise this week - make sure you School everyone at it!

    • You must create a minion which has an effect when all spells in your deck are the same School
      • We're looking for specific Schools here - "If all spells in your deck are Fire", for example

    MathU is back again with another prompt - and this one is asking you to really hit those books!

    As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

    Competition Phases

    Here are the phases of this card design competition

    • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Jun 14 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Jun 19 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Jun 19 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Jun 20 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Jun 20 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Jun 21 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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  • This probably needs some fine tuning, but I'm definitely gonna go full Shadow Priest this week. Priest needs a replacement for Shadow Word: Horror in standard, so this is my first idea.

    Edit: Had another idea. Which one do you think is better?

  • Wow, anchorm4n, I swear I didn't see your cards before making mines, but they both go the same route (even if the execution isn't exactly the same).

    EDIT: Changed the cards because previous wording was confusing.

    • Quote From Wailor

      Wow, anchorm4n, I swear I didn't see your cards before making mines, but they both go the same route (even if the execution isn't exactly the same).

      The Legendary is never going to activate because it's not a Shadow Spell itself. Not sure if you can make a 30 Shadow Spell deck anyway...

      • Quote From TheHoax91
        Quote From Wailor

        Wow, anchorm4n, I swear I didn't see your cards before making mines, but they both go the same route (even if the execution isn't exactly the same).

        The Legendary is never going to activate because it's not a Shadow Spell itself. Not sure if you can make a 30 Shadow Spell deck anyway...

        It's a wording issue. I intended it to work if all your spells belong to the Shadow school.

        I see now that the wording I picked is not the most clear, but it makes grammatical sense (in the same way that "if your house only has brown chairs" allows your house to have, I don't know, red tables).

        In any case, I edited my original post to use a less confusing wording.

    • Well done on the Shadowpriest prediction Wailor, Darkbishop Benedictus is almost exactly Shadow Priestess Shai!

    • Quote From Wailor

      Wow, anchorm4n, I swear I didn't see your cards before making mines, but they both go the same route (even if the execution isn't exactly the same).

      EDIT: Changed the cards because previous wording was confusing.

      Congrats Wailor, you predicted an actual card! Crazy! 

  • Warlock minion - "Start of Game: If all spells in your deck are Holy, draw them." It's just Renounce Darkness, so now you can play one on turn-2 every time lol

    I'm wondering how much I can get away with a School+class combination that doesn't exist. Like a Warrior card that says "If all spells in your deck are Fire". If I put it in a custom expansion, can people imagine the rest? Probably not :(

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    • Quote From linkblade91

      Warlock minion - "Start of Game: If all spells in your deck are Holy, draw them." It's just Renounce Darkness, so now you can play one on turn-2 every time lol

      I'm wondering how much I can get away with a School+class combination that doesn't exist. Like a Warrior card that says "If all spells in your deck are Fire". If I put it in a custom expansion, can people imagine the rest? Probably not :(

      For what it's worth, there are some Warrior Fire spells - Molten Breath and Ironforge Portal are both Fire spells. They also have a single Nature spell with Sudden Genesis. (I'm omitting the dual class cards here, which include Holy and Nature spells, but those tags obviously derive from Paladin and Rogue class identities.)

      On the one hand, I think Warrior is a poor choice because they're not expected to get much in the way of spell schools - most of their spells represent physical things to mesh with their class identity/WoW abilities. On the other hand, this templating presumably implies that if your deck has no spells, the trigger is activated (akin to the "no duplicates" rules when your deck has zero cards). In that view, your Fire Warrior spell template would be totally valid, but you'd basically be making a card that reads "If your deck contains no spells."

      Personally, I like the idea of pushing those boundaries, but I think your ask for people to "imagine the rest" demonstrates where that really belongs: in a Custom Hearthstone Expansion design competition. (Card competitions, I think, ask the designers and judges to imagine a new card added in isolation.) Maybe Out of Cards should try doing something like that once a year, or once competition season, etc. to give people room to play with bigger concepts that require multi-card support.

      Or maybe there's room for something smaller in scope that would satisfy this - something like a "Build a custom class package" competition where you'd design something like six cards to support some new archetype. Then we can all see if we can come up with anything better than Freeze Shaman lol.

      • Quote From meisterz39

        Maybe Out of Cards should try doing something like that once a year, or once competition season, etc. to give people room to play with bigger concepts that require multi-card support.

        Or maybe there's room for something smaller in scope that would satisfy this - something like a "Build a custom class package" competition where you'd design something like six cards to support some new archetype. Then we can all see if we can come up with anything better than Freeze Shaman lol.

        "Big comps", like full expansions and/or new classes, are on the horizon. They require a lot more groundwork to implement, but it has always been on the to-do list.

        I like the idea of building a smaller archetype package, though: that could be a fun one.

        Friendly

  • Couple of ideas this time around. I think the design for the 2nd one is better, but I feel the token needs to be cleared up a bit somehow (do enemies freeze when they attack? after? etc.) The first one better supports the direction Blizzard is taking Frost Mage however.

    EDIT: As much as I like the name Zro K'lvin (Zero Kelvin), the name Shiva might be more appropriate with the Shiva's Guard weapon.

     

    Feedback:

    anchorm4n
    I like the first one more, it's a conditional Mossy Horror that only hits enemies. Maybe lower the threshold from 4 attack to 2-3 attack? If that's the route you go down, could also maybe lower the cost too. The 2nd design is too different that it feels weird. Would be interesting, but would probably need to be epic or legendary.

    Wailor
    That Silvermoon Icecaller is clean! I would go with that one and change nothing. It supports the archetype in a way that Blizzard is pushing for and is simple, but not overly so. Shai isn't bad, but an effect like that I'd like to see on a non-legendary so It can be a 2-of. This way it can be upgraded and all aspects of Shadowform can be utilized.

  • Agor can take on multiple different forms, but only if you build your deck with all of your spells being one specific type.

    I'm not entirely sure if this would count given and this was something that the staff and I were talking about before the comp started. If this doesn't count, then hopefully it'll at least inspire someone to come up with some new design. If it does count, then all the better and I can use it!

    There might be some big power discrepancy in the forms. I originally made this card to be designed as proof-of-concept first and then balance second, but still tried.

    Friendly Staff

  • Going off of Molten Breath and Ironforge Portal, one can assume that other Fire spells for the Warrior could conceivably include some Armor gain.

    Friendly

  • Feedback a bit later.

  • Sorry for spamming but I had yet another idea, it's just such a cool theme. I'd be very thankful if you could help me choose between those three.

     

     

  • As there are only very few arcane druid spells but a lot of them can be used in combo and meme decks.  So this card should help with some early survival.

  • Feedback

    Anchorm4n

    Shadowed Reaper seems like a very solid idea. The amount of minions this hits seems to be pretty big which is the only aspect of the card that I may have some contention with, but this is a good direction to go.

    Acolyte of Frost I don't like quite as much. Ignoring the flavor wording (which itself I've never particularly cared for), it doesn't feel like a Mage card to me.

    Medivh, the Prophet is a cool recreation of Medivh, but I feel like it possibly does too much stuff.

    Wailor
    I'd say both of these cards are pretty solid for the most part. I feel like you could just run Varden Dawngrasp instead of Silvermoon Icecaller and not need to gimp your deck with only Frost spells, but it's still a fine card. Shadow Priestess Shai I think will get you a better "flashy" vote since Shadowform is just something that people like to see supported.

    Lundy
    I personally prefer the first version. The second version seems too out of what Mage does for me.

    Linkblade91
    I did already mention this in Discord, but the fact that you are banking off of both flavor and necessary card designs for an expansion that doesn't exist may be your downfall. I think the card itself seems fine though. A concept that I approve of.

    R
    Lord Ragnaros feels like an alright idea, but I'm not sure on the balance in the slightest. I do really like Combat Dominie and I think it will stand out among the see of big Legendaries and complicated effects that you are likely to see in this prompt.

    Elfinsilver
    I think this is an okay card, but I think this comp more than ever is where proper watermarks should matter. Classic would contain no spell schools, rendering the condition of the card literally impossible to fulfill and breaks Hearthstone continuity.

    BasilAnguis

    In a vacuum, the card concept seems interesting. Scary, but interesting. I can already see some potentially game-breaking situations you can do with the card. Mind Blast in particular becomes 25 face damage for 10 mana and no additional set-up (which in itself can become even more with only a single Radiant Elemental).

    The card also bears the same problem that Elfinsilver's card has. Pre-FitB watermark, where spell schools did not exist yet.

    Friendly Staff

  • It's been some time since I tried to enter another contest, but here I am. I think this is eligible, because this edition requires all spells to be of one spell School, but did not specify that the card needed to tell you of which. So this is just a nice, flexible card, akin to Dungeoneers.

  • Feedback time:

    anchorm4n

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    I personally prefer Acolyte of Frost, even if it should probably be a Legendary, given it introduces of a new mechanic.

    Shadowed Reaper is also cool, but it's pretty hard to tell what's going on in the artwork. I'd either zoom in the tauren or use a different art altogether.

    Medivh is probably my least favorite of the three.

    Lundy

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    Nice pun, hehe. Besides that, the first version is much better. The second one is too complex and it's hard to activate, since Mage doesn't have much Armor gain.

    Demonxz95

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    I apreciate that all three forms make a lot of sense flavor-wise, but I don't know if a card with so many tokens will be well received.

    linkblade91

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    The concept is fine, but the lack of Fire spells for Warrior might hurt it a little bit.

    R

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    Lord Ragnaros is cool, but might be too OP. Combat Dominie, on the other hand, is quite awesome in its simplicity.

    Elfensilver

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    I know Druid also has Arcane spells, but split damage effects are usually Mage, so I'd probably change its class to Mage.

    Besides that, the artwork and the watermark could cost you points.

    Neoguli

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    I think this card isn't allowed.
    • We're looking for specific Schools here - "If all spells in your deck are Fire", for example

  • Cards that work with this effect are: Devour Mind, Thoughtsteal, Seance, Madame Lazul, Shifting Shade, Drakonid Operative, Archbishop Benedictus, Mind Vision, Psionic Probe, and probably others i forgot.

    No more Mind Blast otks!

    Neoguli

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    Neat idea going the neutral way, but a simple draw 2 cards is a bit boring imo.

    Elfensilver

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    Druid has a handful of arcane spells so this is mostly useless. Random damage never was druid's field either. You should find some proper art and not a screenshot as well.

    anchorm4n

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    The reaper is too good, see Mossy Horror. At least lower the stats. Acolyte of Frost is the coolest (ba dum tss) of all. Medivh looks like he might allow for some op combos but i'm too tired to think of specifics right now.

  • Midway into designing a new card in case Agor wasn't allowed, I actually just then realized that cards had to be minions. So, uh, here's a new card for you guys.

    Will likely nerf the cost reduction to 2.

    Friendly Staff

  • Feedback time, sorry for being a bit late this week. Thanks for your thoughts on my cards!

    Demonxz95
    Volvano Caller is solid work, but not very exciting. Agor is super cool! One super small thing to consider is that the initial card depicts an guy with two heads, but you can get three different outcomes. Any chance you happen to have one lying around with three heads?

    BasilAnguis
    Very nice idea, it's been some time since Thief Priest got some love. Not sure about the Echo part, though. That keyword is tied to The Witchwood when spell schools had not been a thing yet. Why not go with a good old cost reduction? I'd say go all in and make them cost 1!

    Neoguli
    Solid idea, but I don't think it counts. The subtext of the prompt says "We're looking for a specific school here". Better check with Shadows!

    Elfensilver
    Choosing a Dragon to design your card around is a cool idea, but I see several problems. First of all, you should use another watermark. Then the art isn't very good, it looks like a screenshot from WoW. Finally, I'd choose another effect. Dealing damage randomly split isn't a Druid thing.

    R
    I can only echo the other's feedback: Combat Dominie is a super cool card and a potential winner in my eyes (you can never know with these crazy finalist's vote results these days though). Nothing more to say.

    linkblade91
    "Double your Armor" always sounds scary to me, but this time the restriction is big enough to work out I guess. You also made it even-costed so Odd Warrior shenanigans aren't a problem either. Solid card!

    Lundy
    I was a bit disappointed when I saw you've used the same art as me to be honest, but I do like your card. No big fan of Start of Game effects, but it's a cool idea and the pun in the name is great. Rated 4 stars for now, might give it a raise to 5 when I've seen all the others on Sunday.

    Wailor
    Haha, I guess we've both gone with the coolest archetypes around :) I much prefer Shai, since Silvermoon Icecaller is just too close to [Hearthstone Card (Warden Dawngrasp) Not Found] and I think Blizzard made them a Legendary on purpose to keep the potential number of Frost Novas low. Nice one!

  • Feedback:

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    Demonxz95 - Said my piece in Discord, but reducing the Cost reduction to 2 might be a good idea. Plus then it's 2s all around; better for memes!

    BasilAnguis - The Echo is out of place, as the others have noted. Either it's a Witchwood card and cannot be related to schools, or it's FitB-or-later and cannot have Echo. I like anchor's idea about straight Cost-reduction.

    Neoguli - Unfortunately, this will not count for the prompt.

    Elfensilver - This reads like a Mage card, as they like the randomly-split damage effects. I like the Druid+Arcane combination, though: there's got to be something there that can be distinctly Druid.

    anchorm4n - Acolyte of Frost seems like the most interesting of the bunch. Medivh is too much and the Reaper is just-another Shadow Priest clear card, of which there are many.

    R - Definitely go with Combat Dominie; I think that's a potential winner. Only issue could be the recent backlash/nerfs with the Paladin: some people might see this card and its potential with Hand of A'dal and get scared.

    Lundy - The first iteration of Zro is the better one, in my opinion. Shiva's Guard is not fully clear, as you noted, and there are only so many ways for the Mage to gain Armor.

    Wailor - I like Shai the most: gives you a solid game-plan (blast the enemy while you clear with the Shadow spells), and encourages fun deck-building. Icecaller is fine but might be too annoying, having more Frost Novas, on a body, that you can play twice.

    Friendly

  • My second attempt. Now it mentions a specific school, but I gave myself a leeway to include more than one school in the text. Don't be confused, though, because all your spells need to be either Shadow or Fel - not both at once.

  • Neoguli
    Most Soul Fragment spells(maybe all) are Shadow. Probably better off just making it that. Also, I understand Soul Fragment is a known thing within the game, as it heals 2 when drawn, but maybe these should be called something else? As it is, I don't think I would want to run this card if it's going to discard my spells whenever I play a "Destroy a Soul Fragment" card.

    anchorm4n
    Sorry! I hadn't actually seen we used the same art (nor if it was up there when I posted mine), as I usually see the prompt, make the card, then look at what others are doing on the forum. Good Frost Mage art though :)

    Demonx95
    Volcano Caller is certainly simpler than Agor, but it's use seems limited. I feel like for Mage, Fire is better suited for damage (maybe make it "Battlecry: Deal 2 damage, if all spells are fire, deal 4", and Arcane being the school associated with cost reduction (easier fix, just change the art, name, and tweak text), and Frost with sustainment and keeping you around for another turn or two (like Wailor's Silvermoon Icecaller).

    BasilAnguis
    Seems like it could be busted. I may have read it wrong, but if I copied something like Arcane Missiles, Fury (Rank 3), Lightning Bolt, I just auto win the game at 10-mana. Maybe increase the mana cost and make it Echo this turn, and/or make it's Battlecry only affect copied spells that are in your hand when Kikzi is played. Better yet, make it grant Twinspell and name it something like Gemini.

  • It's better late than never. Feedback.

    Neoguli
    Is it good for soul fragment deck? Idk. Is it good for decks like otk mechactun? Seems yes. Hard to say something.

    demonxz95
    Fire spells and reduce the cost. I would say it is flavourfull if it was arcane, but from fire I wait to see some "deal damage" stuff. On the balance side - better [Hearthstone Card (Primordial Glyph) Not Found] also with 2/2 body? Kinda OP.

    BasilAnguis
    Unlimited Moonfire and Innervate. And this is not all the list that card is broken with.

    Elfensilver
    It's better to make it "deal 1 to all…" or "deal 4 to a random…" so it looks like a druid card. Now it's like a mage card in druid. Or make it dual class BTW!

    anchorm4n
    I see I'm late. But yeah. Art was bad and card was OP at 4 damage cap. You also could change text to "all other minions with 4…"

    linkblade91
    Can you imagine warrior without classic spells like Brawl? This card need a lot of good fire spells to see play.

    Lundy
    That one which upgrades hero power is cool. But may be OP a little bit. Unlimited freeze for 2 mana.

    Wailor
    Both are cool. Priest card may be OP, because you just remove 2 Shadowforms from deck and leave a place to other card. And also you have a "deal 2 damage" hero power from start of game.

    Mage card is better IMO, but I would recommend to find a better art.

    • Quote From R

      linkblade91
      Can you imagine warrior without classic spells like Brawl? This card need a lot of good fire spells to see play.

      I would argue the first part is a lack of imagination, frankly, but yes: the Warrior would need some solid Fire spells for Grimlo to work out. That's the hypothetical I'm proposing. I wanted to create a card that bucks against the established class/school combinations, and see how well that did.

      ...I'm guessing not well.

      Friendly
      • Quote From linkblade91
        That's the hypothetical I'm proposing. I wanted to create a card that bucks against the established class/school combinations, and see how well that did.

        ...I'm guessing not well.

        I understand it. I also wanted to make that. But some classes lack of spell schools. And its hard to imagine how it would be if there will be some spells of this school. So I made a paladin holy card. Your card is cool btw.

      • Quote From linkblade91
        Quote From R

        linkblade91
        Can you imagine warrior without classic spells like Brawl? This card need a lot of good fire spells to see play.

        I would argue the first part is a lack of imagination, frankly, but yes: the Warrior would need some solid Fire spells for Grimlo to work out. That's the hypothetical I'm proposing. I wanted to create a card that bucks against the established class/school combinations, and see how well that did.

        ...I'm guessing not well.

        This is the only issue I have with these comps compared to the ones we used to have back in Hearthpwn. Not sure if it's the voting system or that people here are more conservative (in card design, I mean, in the political sense it's quite the opposite xd), but I have the feeling that innovation is usually punished in OoC comps.

        It's kinda funny, because my taste has also evolved to adapt this more "strict" environment.

        Don't get me wrong, I still prefer what we have here, but I kinda miss submitting a wild idea while not having the feeling that I'm shooting my foot.

  • Making a full new hero or expansion takes a lot of time. Mini archetype package is great idea.

    Edit: Thoughts about this inspired me and I'm already making a Toad Shaman archetype lul.

  • Lots of super cool cards this week. Good luck everybody! 

  • Good luck to our finalists! Can't believe I'm among them lol.

    Friendly

  • Can't believe I am not among them. Now I remember why I don't participate often, it's because I feel upset not being able to advance further.

    I was victim of that one Hearthpwn contest where my and other cards on the same page were tied for 13th, which led to some discussion about changing their contest's rules.

    • Quote From Neoguli

      Can't believe I am not among them. Now I remember why I don't participate often, it's because I feel upset not being able to advance further.

      I was victim of that one Hearthpwn contest where my and other cards on the same page were tied for 13th, which led to some discussion about changing their contest's rules.

      I think the main problem with your card is that it doesn't really do what the prompt said it should do. You didn't focus on the theme of a single Spell School, but went with both Fel and Shadow. Fel doesn't have anything to do with Soul Fragments first of all, it's always demon related. Then secondly, Fel and Shadow are almost the only spell schools Warlock and Demon Hunter have. Barely a restriction in the deck building process, like asking priest to have Shadow and Holy spells.

      Beyond that... what's the reward supposed to be? Healing? Because any other Soul Shard synergy is actually anti synergy, as stuff like Void Drinker and Soulshard Lapidary will DESTROY the spells you made into Soul Fragments. Why would you want that? If you wanted to just have the soul fragments drawn to heal, then why use soul fragments at all if their thing is getting burnt for benefits?

    • Quote From Neoguli

      Can't believe I am not among them. Now I remember why I don't participate often, it's because I feel upset not being able to advance further.

       

      I think one of the main reasons your card might have done bad is because you tried to do something too unique. Aside from the card from the adventure that you had mentioned, there was no precedents for an ability that stored one card inside of another card. It just felt weird. If you had restricted it to a single school instead of doubling up (which kind of defeated the purpose of the competition in the first place) and also just had it shuffle in 10 soul fragments instead of attaching them to cards (which would have mathematically worked out virtually the same way, except it wouldn't have anti-synergy with other soul fragment cards) then you likely would have done better.

      Friendly

  • I'm super suprised that R's Combat Dominie didn't make it. Maybe I won't be as straight forward with my feedback in the future, looks like it might paint a target on people's back if their cards are labeled as a potential winner (and I wasn't the only one who said so). Sorry R! :(

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      Sorry R! :(

      :[
    • Quote From anchorm4n

      I'm super suprised that R's Combat Dominie didn't make it. Maybe I won't be as straight forward with my feedback in the future, looks like it might paint a target on people's back if their cards are labeled as a potential winner (and I wasn't the only one who said so). Sorry R! :(

      I gave it a low score because it was OP. 1 mana draw a card and it's a 2/1 Divine Shield. Argent Squire, Novice Engineer

      And Paladin with just Holy spells is very easy to do, not much of a restriction.

      • Quote From BasilAnguis
        Quote From anchorm4n

        I'm super suprised that R's Combat Dominie didn't make it. Maybe I won't be as straight forward with my feedback in the future, looks like it might paint a target on people's back if their cards are labeled as a potential winner (and I wasn't the only one who said so). Sorry R! :(

        I gave it a low score because it was OP. 1 mana draw a card and it's a 2/1 Divine Shield. Argent Squire, Novice Engineer

        And Paladin with just Holy spells is very easy to do, not much of a restriction.

        I checked, and there are really only like 2-4 paladin spells across all of hearthstone that aren't holy that you might actually want to play, aside from Oh My Yogg! there is virtually no deck building restrictions. And on top of that, the reward isn't terribly interesting. You get a strong 1-drop, but that is it. In theory, if I am going to build my deck around a single theme, I would like the payoff to be more than just a good turn 1 play.

        Friendly

  • Thanks BasilAnguis and KANSAS for pointing out your reasoning. We don't have to agree on everything, but it certainly helps to understand the ratings. Makes me wonder if it wouldn't be better to split the vote on each card into categories, something I remember DestroyerR doing in their feedback posts. From the top of my head, something like building an average between 5 star ratings of each card's powerlevel balance, flavor and execution would be nice. That would also lower the probability of ties because one persons final score would be the average of an average. The big downside of this suggestion obviously is the added amount of work you have to put into giving your vote which might lead to a further decrease in participation. Hm.

  • So... it's not about being totally unique, but just solid enough to garner attention. A little sadge for me, as I do like to be somewhat flashy with designs.

  • @Neoguli I dunno, your card was actualy my favourite (except mine of course), and I realy thought you gonna make it.

  • Congratulations to grumpymonk!

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  • congrats, grumpymonk!

  • Thanks linkblade and anchorm4n!

  • blizz hire me pls