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What is wrong with people?

Context - I was playing token druid, opponent was on bomb warrior. I was rank 6, 5 stars; he was rank 5.

On turn 2, I went face instead of trading with his Loot Hoarder, allowing him a free trade with my Dire Wolf Alpha. I'm fully aware that this looks like a mistake, but against a warrior, it's extremely important to get in as much damage as possible as early as possible with token druid, due to board wipe potentials. So I know it looks foolish, but I do it anyways. He emotes, "That was a mistake." I think I muted him.

I do, in fact win the game. Apparently he didn't have board wipes. I think I emoted "well played," because I always do that. To me, it's meant to be a polite way to end a game. Am I crazy to think it's polite to end a game with "well played"? Should I just never emote? Anyways, here's what happened after the game. The filtered words are f-bombs. (Side note: I'm married and have two children.)

Edit: Apparently I am inept at using the image insertion feature. Basically he screamed at me for emoting and then unfriended. I friended him again to inform him he did first, and he screamed some more. Here's the image link: Screen Capture of the comments

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  • Context - I was playing token druid, opponent was on bomb warrior. I was rank 6, 5 stars; he was rank 5.

    On turn 2, I went face instead of trading with his Loot Hoarder, allowing him a free trade with my Dire Wolf Alpha. I'm fully aware that this looks like a mistake, but against a warrior, it's extremely important to get in as much damage as possible as early as possible with token druid, due to board wipe potentials. So I know it looks foolish, but I do it anyways. He emotes, "That was a mistake." I think I muted him.

    I do, in fact win the game. Apparently he didn't have board wipes. I think I emoted "well played," because I always do that. To me, it's meant to be a polite way to end a game. Am I crazy to think it's polite to end a game with "well played"? Should I just never emote? Anyways, here's what happened after the game. The filtered words are f-bombs. (Side note: I'm married and have two children.)

    Edit: Apparently I am inept at using the image insertion feature. Basically he screamed at me for emoting and then unfriended. I friended him again to inform him he did first, and he screamed some more. Here's the image link: Screen Capture of the comments

    • Quote From sto650

      Context - I was playing token druid, opponent was on bomb warrior. I was rank 6, 5 stars; he was rank 5.

      On turn 2, I went face instead of trading with his Loot Hoarder, allowing him a free trade with my Dire Wolf Alpha. I'm fully aware that this looks like a mistake, but against a warrior, it's extremely important to get in as much damage as possible as early as possible with token druid, due to board wipe potentials. So I know it looks foolish, but I do it anyways. He emotes, "That was a mistake." I think I muted him.

      I do, in fact win the game. Apparently he didn't have board wipes. I think I emoted "well played," because I always do that. To me, it's meant to be a polite way to end a game. Am I crazy to think it's polite to end a game with "well played"? Should I just never emote? Anyways, here's what happened after the game. The filtered words are f-bombs. (Side note: I'm married and have two children.)

      Edit: Apparently I am inept at using the image insertion feature. Basically he screamed at me for emoting and then unfriended. I friended him again to inform him he did first, and he screamed some more. Here's the image link: Screen Capture of the comments

      If you say "Well Played" in a lop sided train wreck on his behalf that is honestly bad manners. It's the same as saying GG after winning a game where you clearly wrecked the other team. GG means "Good Game". It's not a good game if the other team gets wrecked. Plus its honestly an extreme BM move to mute him yet emote yourself, that is extremely childish.

      I never say "well played" if I am about to win. Only the person about to lose should say it. I myself say Well Played when I know I lost. Being married or having children doesn't mean you are an expert in social intelligence. If I legit want to be an asshole I do in fact spam "Well played" if I think I clearly won this game and I think he is wasting his time. Well played is for the loser to say.

      I would even say you were trying to be a jerk if you friended him again. Especially if you sent something like, "You tried your best ;D" You should just drop it and move on. You are literally putting salt on the wounds.

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        Context - I was playing token druid, opponent was on bomb warrior. I was rank 6, 5 stars; he was rank 5.

        On turn 2, I went face instead of trading with his Loot Hoarder, allowing him a free trade with my Dire Wolf Alpha. I'm fully aware that this looks like a mistake, but against a warrior, it's extremely important to get in as much damage as possible as early as possible with token druid, due to board wipe potentials. So I know it looks foolish, but I do it anyways. He emotes, "That was a mistake." I think I muted him.

        I do, in fact win the game. Apparently he didn't have board wipes. I think I emoted "well played," because I always do that. To me, it's meant to be a polite way to end a game. Am I crazy to think it's polite to end a game with "well played"? Should I just never emote? Anyways, here's what happened after the game. The filtered words are f-bombs. (Side note: I'm married and have two children.)

        Edit: Apparently I am inept at using the image insertion feature. Basically he screamed at me for emoting and then unfriended. I friended him again to inform him he did first, and he screamed some more. Here's the image link: Screen Capture of the comments

        If you say "Well Played" in a lop sided train wreck on his behalf that is honestly bad manners. It's the same as saying GG after winning a game where you clearly wrecked the other team. GG means "Good Game". It's not a good game if the other team gets wrecked. Plus its honestly an extreme BM move to mute him yet emote yourself, that is extremely childish.

        I never say "well played" if I am about to win. Only the person about to lose should say it. I myself say Well Played when I know I lost. Being married or having children doesn't mean you are an expert in social intelligence. If I legit want to be an asshole I do in fact spam "Well played" if I think I clearly won this game and I think he is wasting his time. Well played is for the loser to say.

        I would even say you were trying to be a jerk if you friended him again. Especially if you sent something like, "You tried your best ;D" You should just drop it and move on. You are literally putting salt on the wounds.

        That´s just plain wrong - at least in my oppinion! In sports or even E-Sports it´s common courtesy to say GG after a game even if you got destroyed. That has nothing to do with bad manners ... bad manners would be something like "HAHAHAHA GG you losers" for example but a simple GG is not bad manners!

        And saying Well Played because the Game was as the emote stated well played is also not wrong - sure there are people out there who will see everything as bad manners against them but that is simply their fault and not the persons who is using said emote!

        I once had a discussion about the Greetings Emote at the beginning of a match - there are people who say that the Greetings at the start is also BM .... ... 

         

        I always accept friend requests after a game careless if i won or lost - some people vent or scream , others talk normal about the deck or the game etc.

        If someone feels better after screaming and deleting so be it - i personaly don't get bothered by that :)

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        (Side note: I'm married and have two children.)

         

        Being married or having children doesn't mean you are an expert in social intelligence. 

        It's not a comment about social intelligence. It's a comment about his choice of insult (virgin). I don't think I need to spell out why having children is relevant here

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          (Side note: I'm married and have two children.)

           

          Being married or having children doesn't mean you are an expert in social intelligence. 

          It's not a comment about social intelligence. It's a comment about his choice of insult (virgin). I don't think I need to spell out why having children is relevant here

          I can't even start to imagine levels of insecurity, that made this remark happen. 

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            (Side note: I'm married and have two children.)

             

            Being married or having children doesn't mean you are an expert in social intelligence. 

            It's not a comment about social intelligence. It's a comment about his choice of insult (virgin). I don't think I need to spell out why having children is relevant here

            I can't even start to imagine levels of insecurity, that made this remark happen. 

            *shrug* You can imagine it's insecurity if you want. In point of fact, it's actually *humor* for the sheer irrelevant hilarity of the insult. 

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              (Side note: I'm married and have two children.)

               

              Being married or having children doesn't mean you are an expert in social intelligence. 

              It's not a comment about social intelligence. It's a comment about his choice of insult (virgin). I don't think I need to spell out why having children is relevant here

              I can't even start to imagine levels of insecurity, that made this remark happen. 

              *shrug* You can imagine it's insecurity if you want. In point of fact, it's actually *humor* for the sheer irrelevant hilarity of the insult. Maybe you just don't grasp an understated joke when lands right in your lap. But that's alright.

              Yes, yes, r/ihavesex level joke.

    • Quote From sto650

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      What is a mong? Is it like Mongo from Blazing Saddles? If so, good one! If not, that’s not a good one. Overall a disappointing variety of insults. Better luck next time I guess

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        What is a mong? Is it like Mongo from Blazing Saddles? If so, good one! If not, that’s not a good one. Overall a disappointing variety of insults. Better luck next time I guess

        Short for Mongoloid-relating to the broad division of humankind including the indigenous peoples of East Asia, SE Asia, and the Arctic region of North America

        It's supposed to refer to the person as a lesser being of small intelligence. (Like Mongo)

        • Quote From Kronos
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          What is a mong? Is it like Mongo from Blazing Saddles? If so, good one! If not, that’s not a good one. Overall a disappointing variety of insults. Better luck next time I guess

          Short for Mongoloid-relating to the broad division of humankind including the indigenous peoples of East Asia, SE Asia, and the Arctic region of North America

          It's supposed to refer to the person as a lesser being of small intelligence. (Like Mongo)

          Fascinating historical context! Is it British culture that uses "mong" as an insult? I'm American, and I've never heard it. Probably because I'm a mong

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            What is a mong? Is it like Mongo from Blazing Saddles? If so, good one! If not, that’s not a good one. Overall a disappointing variety of insults. Better luck next time I guess

            Short for Mongoloid-relating to the broad division of humankind including the indigenous peoples of East Asia, SE Asia, and the Arctic region of North America

            It's supposed to refer to the person as a lesser being of small intelligence. (Like Mongo)

            Fascinating historical context! Is it British culture that uses "mong" as an insult? I'm American, and I've never heard it. Probably because I'm a mong

            It's used in America quite often. You are just around polite people. Google mongoloid and go to images to see what people are referring to. It's an older insult however and not used by younger generations. 

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              What is a mong? Is it like Mongo from Blazing Saddles? If so, good one! If not, that’s not a good one. Overall a disappointing variety of insults. Better luck next time I guess

              Short for Mongoloid-relating to the broad division of humankind including the indigenous peoples of East Asia, SE Asia, and the Arctic region of North America

              It's supposed to refer to the person as a lesser being of small intelligence. (Like Mongo)

              Fascinating historical context! Is it British culture that uses "mong" as an insult? I'm American, and I've never heard it. Probably because I'm a mong

              It's used in America quite often. You are just around polite people. Google mongoloid and go to images to see what people are referring to. It's an older insult however and not used by younger generations. 

              Ah yes. I'm familiar with the full term being used. I should have been more specific in that I haven't heard the abbreviated version  "mong" before. Thanks!

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              What is a mong? Is it like Mongo from Blazing Saddles? If so, good one! If not, that’s not a good one. Overall a disappointing variety of insults. Better luck next time I guess

              Short for Mongoloid-relating to the broad division of humankind including the indigenous peoples of East Asia, SE Asia, and the Arctic region of North America

              It's supposed to refer to the person as a lesser being of small intelligence. (Like Mongo)

              Fascinating historical context! Is it British culture that uses "mong" as an insult? I'm American, and I've never heard it. Probably because I'm a mong

              It's used in America quite often. You are just around polite people. Google mongoloid and go to images to see what people are referring to. It's an older insult however and not used by younger generations. 

              I know this one in an even meaner context than you guys. Mongolism is also a synonym for the Down's Syndrom, so by calling someone a "mongo", one a) implies the insulted person suffers from this disease and its symptoms while b) showing disrespect for said people which is even more disgusting than just insulting some unknown person over a freakin card game.

  • Even if I play what I think was a balanced even game (not a trample one way or the other) if I try to add people when I win; most of the time they wont anyway.

    I have a much better chance if I lost. Fragile Ego's being what they are.

     

     

    p.s. everytime I play I emote hello at the start, then block all emotes. Just got sick of mungrels abusing emotes to rub in their win or a lucky swing draw. I'll still emote well played even though I cant see what the response is.

  • Yeah, it's really sad how a lot of people behave on the internet. But then I never stop trying and get rewarded sometimes. Two days ago I took a Face Warrior to ladder (lots of rush, lots of weapons, a few buffs) and got friended by a mage I beat. Instead of insulting me, he thanked me for the game which was a welcome change from the current meta and asked for the deck list. There ARE nice people out there.

  • Its ironic how he started with Authistic

  • Tbh, "well played" on every win is meaningless. Hence it is potentially tilting.

    *Well* played should indeed mean your opponent made remarkable plays. Not just average plays until he lost.

    Meaningless politeness can be perceived as rudeness, because the lack of actual meaning is the basis for sarcasm.

    Surely his reaction is wrong, no matter what.

  • I don't understand why of all the nasty names you can call people, he settled on 'virgin'.

    Friendly

  • Sadly, and looking at the language used and syntax etc, this dude was English. That makes me sad. And embarrassed. But mostly sad... 

  • Are we still discussing accepting friend requests from randoms in 2019?

  • All emoting is BM unless it's "Oops" after forgetting to click end turn and roping.

  • I suggest to you to report people who do that do Blizzard. I don't know if it's usefull or not, if something will happen or not, but I hate people who randomly insult me for being good or lucky on a game on the internet.

    Said that, I also hate the fact that people don't add me when I ask friendship. I usually do that when I lose badly against a fun deck, so that I want to ask their list. People think that I want to BM them, but it's never true and that makes me sad :'(

  • Why even bother adding those people in the first place?
    It's well known when you win against someone and get a friend request, 99% of the times you get flamed at.

    I don't ever add anyone after a win.

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      Why even bother adding those people in the first place?
      It's well known when you win against someone and get a friend request, 99% of the times you get flamed at.

      I don't ever add anyone after a win.

      Oh man, I always add people who I suspect are going to flame me. I love the possibility of hearing some creative insults, but most of the time it's a disappointment. At times I try to cool people down too, just to see if I can. Especially since I'm not going to trade insults with someone over a trivial card game.

      There was one instance where an angry player told me, in so many words, to siphon a member of extraordinary size. I responded with something like, "Funny, I was about to go do that." He said "lol" and then cooled off enough to talk rationally. We actually trade 80g quests and stuff now. I hope to be named godfather to his children someday.

    • Quote From Motions

      Why even bother adding those people in the first place?
      It's well known when you win against someone and get a friend request, 99% of the times you get flamed at.

      I don't ever add anyone after a win.

      I see them as badges of honour. I pissed them off enough they take the effort to flame me.

    • Quote From Motions

      Why even bother adding those people in the first place?
      It's well known when you win against someone and get a friend request, 99% of the times you get flamed at.

      I don't ever add anyone after a win.

      This.

  • Some people are just dicks. That's the up and down of it. 

    It is however quite easy to misunderstand the nature of an emote. Sometimes it's easier to just "Squelch"

  • Seeing some of the comments in this thread makes me feel so much more encouraged about adding people after a game only to say literally nothing and watch them flip out because they wanted to be flamed and didn't get their attention-quota for the day. 
    Hehehe! Delicious :-P

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      Seeing some of the comments in this thread makes me feel so much more encouraged about adding people after a game only to say literally nothing and watch them flip out because they wanted to be flamed and didn't get their attention-quota for the day. 
      Hehehe! Delicious :-P

      I usually accept the flamers not for the attention, but to let them just rant for a moment and get it off their chest.  If they are that upset over losing a game of Hearthstone they need to vent or they'll explode from bottling up all that anger.

      In the occasion that I don't add them it's because they were a special kind of asshole during the match and don't deserve the satisfaction of venting and calling me homosexual slurs, saying they've slept with my mom, etc.

  • i wouldn't flip out like the guy did but i would certainly be mad for a couple reasons. first, another token deck. token and aggro decks made me go to wild for the time being because thats all i was ever seeing. second, i wouldn't have drawn any board clears. of course this one depends on how many board clears i run. although a rule of thumb about me i've noticed is that if i don't think the game was competitive, i won't emote and if my opponent does when it was a stomp for them, i just flip off my computer screen. i still get to vent and i don't potentially lose my account.

  • Players like you are the reason why I like the game.  Emoting is a "friendly" exchange in my mind.  I will always send the "Well Played" emote if I see that I was outplayed. When it gets to the upper ranks, everyone is playing the same deck, and MAYBE teching a little different based on what they are seeing mostly.  

    I come from a card playing background in MTG and was a judge for DCI for a while.  I can tell you, for the most part, good sportsmanship goes a long way for us.  Keep it and don't add "friends" right away when they send you a request.  If they genuinely want to be friends with you, wait a few days then accept.  By that time, if they were just being a salty jerk, they probably have forgotten by that time. 

    Friendly

  • The only times I don't "Well Played" is when my opponent clearly made some big mistakes and lost the game because of them. It seems like the wrong thing to say in that situation. But otherwise, it just seems like saying "Thanks for playing with me."  Perhaps that's what they need as an emote...

    People can seem to take nearly anything in a bad light. Those folks should all mute emotes by default.

    The only emoting that rubs me wrong is when they spam emotes at me. Then I just mute them. But this is really rare.

    • Yeah thats what I do , I just use the thank you emote at the end of the game if it wasn't particularly well played, it's still good to be decent to a fellow player.

      Of course that and everything else could be taken the wrong way if they're already tilted due to randomness or whatever.  Saying "well met" at the end especially can be taken the wrong way, even if it was an accidental wrong emote.  That one can be re-themed to be "welcome to the game, you're obviously new because you're bad" etc

       

       

  • Yes, some people have real problems with emotes. Those of us who believe in common courtesy don't mind a greeting at the beginning of a match or a respectful "well played" at the end of the match. Insecure people are offended by any and everything.

    That said, I never accept friend requests right off. Give it an hour or so. If they really want to be friends… cool. If they were just hot, they probably have gotten offended five more times since then and won't remember who you are.

  • I give people the benefit of the doubt 99% of the time when they emote during a game. If it's painfully obvious they're trying to BM, I'll just squelch and go on playing to win.

    A few years of brutal roasting at the hands of enemies and teammates alike playing competitive Overwatch has rendered me pretty well immunized to toxicity. :) It's just a game, they're strangers, and they are just emotes after all.

  • His big insult was calling you a virgin.. which is very much what 14 year olds do. That angry tween teen needs some hugs to feel better about himself.

  • I have to admit, I didn't expect this thread to got this far. Thanks everyone for the helpful comments!

    Several of you mentioned not adding friends. I usually don't (for exactly the reasons you mentioned), but for some reason I did this time. Probably cured me of ever doing it again LoL.

    Oh well, lesson learned I guess. I'll probably be a lot more careful about emoting in the future.

  • I played Yu-Gi-Oh for many years. more than once during tournament play. Customary handshakes and good game was expected after each match, regardless of how you felt about the match.

    Imo, Hearthstone shouldn't be the exclusion for that simply because it is an online game. In all other card games it is actually good manners to well played or good game your opponent. Looking back on my years in HS I find it silly how many arbitrary and presumptuous rules the community dictates to itself for 'reasons'. 

    We can make all of the arbitrary nonsense we want about the entitlement of only well playing someone if only we had a good game (or the opponent) or we can just be adults and follow common courtesy during competition. When you think about it that way the choice to pick should be obvious.

  • I always accept friend requests with the assumption I’m about to witness a meltdown. With that mindset, it is entertaining and you can have some fun with it. Sometimes, however, it is actually a good interaction, and you have a productive and enjoyable conversation. Either way it is a win with the right mindset going in.  

  • I always say well played at the end of a match to be nice. If you think that it is "bad manners", you need to re-think life.