Can we add this to the long list of mage bias after that class got its whole(?) Volatile Skeleton package revealed together so we could evaluate it, while DH gets this in isolation?
I think the underlying question is which enchantments make sense on both minions and weapons, and whether they get carried around between forms even when they don't do anything. Its pretty safe to assume stat buffs will get passed around, and probably things like poisonous and lifesteal too (they're not very easy to apply in warrior, but rogue can do the science).
For the specific topic at hand, generalised to cover all sources of immunity: I guess it depends on what the immunity would translate to on the weapon. It could either mean nothing, treat durability as health and essentially act as "this weapon does not lose durability", or it applies the immunity to the hero when attacking. Likewise, what happens in reverse if Paralytic Poison is applied while Remornia is a weapon?
MY knee jerk reaction to this was WTF!?!?!? That is ridiculous! After thinking about it, I think the value of it goes down a little bit if what I think is true... when it attacks and turns into your equipped weapon, the durability/health of the minion/weapon has also gone down.
It's still good, but just not knock your socks off good.
On the other hand, I am questioning if there might be shenanigans like Yogg-Saron, Hope's End going to the other side of the board and casting random spells for your opponent.
I am 99% sure the answer is no, the weapon won't be Immune.
A Paladin would be disincentivized because you can send it in to a 1/1 in its minion form then attack a bigger minion in its weapon form to save Remornia's health. A Paladin at 16 health is in serious danger against this weapon because their hero power would allow it to return to weapon form easily for a nice face hit.
That makes sense. I was thinking there was some rule about collectable cards but couldn't formulate it in my head.
Also, why the downvotes on my comment? It seems to be a valid question and on topic. Is it standard practice to downvote when someone misunderstands a not specifically outlined mechanic?
I think Crabatoa is a better comparison since, like Remornia, that gives you 2 minion attacks plus 1 weapon swing - all at 4 attack - and leaves you with a weapon equipped too. It feels like Remornia will do a better job at being impactful on the following turn(s) too, but Crabatoa's 6/5 body is not something we can just ignore. Because of the class differences and the potential to buff Remornia it's difficult to say which is stronger, but that's a promising sign since Crabatoa is objectively great.
I commend Blizzard on this type of card design and well done to GoliathTheDwarf for explaining the lore behind this sword, even before it was revealed. I don't really agree with the The Leviathan comparison though for these reasons:
Remornia can hit 3 separate targets if possible, while Leviathan can only hit 2 targets
Remornia is technically 12 damage if the targets are available while Leviathan is only 8 damage
Remornia will become an equipped weapon at the end of the turn if it survives damage while Leviathan will be 2 4/2s
Ofc I'm not considering The Leviathan's dredge and draw mechanics but I'd still say Warrior would prefer the extra 4 damage from Remornia instead.
All in all, great card, great design, hoping it sees play
New Warrior Minion - Remornia, Living Blade
Could work with Sanguine Depths: she has the Health to take the hit, and each swing will benefit from the bonus Attack.
Blizzard Reveals A New Castle Nathria Location Card for Demon Hunter - Relic Vault
Can we add this to the long list of mage bias after that class got its whole(?) Volatile Skeleton package revealed together so we could evaluate it, while DH gets this in isolation?
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
I think the underlying question is which enchantments make sense on both minions and weapons, and whether they get carried around between forms even when they don't do anything. Its pretty safe to assume stat buffs will get passed around, and probably things like poisonous and lifesteal too (they're not very easy to apply in warrior, but rogue can do the science).
For the specific topic at hand, generalised to cover all sources of immunity: I guess it depends on what the immunity would translate to on the weapon. It could either mean nothing, treat durability as health and essentially act as "this weapon does not lose durability", or it applies the immunity to the hero when attacking. Likewise, what happens in reverse if Paralytic Poison is applied while Remornia is a weapon?
Blizzard Reveals A New Castle Nathria Location Card for Demon Hunter - Relic Vault
It's most likely just going to be a group of spells with "Relic" in the name.
Blizzard Reveals A New Castle Nathria Location Card for Demon Hunter - Relic Vault
I wonder if Queen Azshara's Ancient Relics count as a "Relic".
Blizzard Reveals A New Castle Nathria Location Card for Demon Hunter - Relic Vault
Hahah, me think relic face
Blizzard Reveals A New Castle Nathria Location Card for Demon Hunter - Relic Vault
Haha review this, card reviewers.
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
It would be helpful if you embedded the reveal video. Now it is rather hidden under IGN hyperlink that most people probably ignore
New Warrior Minion - Remornia, Living Blade
MY knee jerk reaction to this was WTF!?!?!? That is ridiculous! After thinking about it, I think the value of it goes down a little bit if what I think is true... when it attacks and turns into your equipped weapon, the durability/health of the minion/weapon has also gone down.
It's still good, but just not knock your socks off good.
New Rogue Location - Sinstone Graveyard
I cannot say how awesome this card is. You are able to double capitalize on miracle rogue. You don't need to build a huge Van Cleaf to win anymore.
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
Could you elaborate a bit more please?
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
Interesting question. When Remornia, Living Blade turns into a weapon, it is not a minion anymore, so it should lose the buff provided by Spirit of the Rhino.
On the other hand, I am questioning if there might be shenanigans like Yogg-Saron, Hope's End going to the other side of the board and casting random spells for your opponent.
I am 99% sure the answer is no, the weapon won't be Immune.
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
A Paladin would be disincentivized because you can send it in to a 1/1 in its minion form then attack a bigger minion in its weapon form to save Remornia's health. A Paladin at 16 health is in serious danger against this weapon because their hero power would allow it to return to weapon form easily for a nice face hit.
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
That makes sense. I was thinking there was some rule about collectable cards but couldn't formulate it in my head.
Also, why the downvotes on my comment? It seems to be a valid question and on topic. Is it standard practice to downvote when someone misunderstands a not specifically outlined mechanic?
Nozdormu the All-Star
Mulligan your entire hand, looking for Nozdormu the Eternal.
New Warrior Minion - Remornia, Living Blade
I am going to handbuff this like crazy, only for my opponent to eat it with Mutanus the Devourer.
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
Will the weapon also immune, if you have Spirit of the Rhino?
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
Yeah, it was probably it.
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
All good then!
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
I think Crabatoa is a better comparison since, like Remornia, that gives you 2 minion attacks plus 1 weapon swing - all at 4 attack - and leaves you with a weapon equipped too. It feels like Remornia will do a better job at being impactful on the following turn(s) too, but Crabatoa's 6/5 body is not something we can just ignore. Because of the class differences and the potential to buff Remornia it's difficult to say which is stronger, but that's a promising sign since Crabatoa is objectively great.
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
You misread, as I did "3/4 attacks". He said "you get 3 (three) 4 (damage) attacks swings", so the same as you: 1 minion + 1 weapon + 1 minion = 3
New Warrior Minion - Remornia, Living Blade
Eh, not so good.
On Turn 7 you take out 3 4-health minions?
New Druid Location - Hedge Maze
This location can be quite powerful and I'm assuming Druid will get more deathrattle support this expansion. Currently, here's all the deathrattle minions druid has access to: https://outof.cards/hearthstone/cards/?hsclass=2&hsclass=12&has_mechanics=5&collectible=yes&standard=yes&card_type=5
Not too many great ones atm but there is Taelan Fordring which is mostly used in Druid these days to draw all the big boys.
Also, Hedge Maze makes triggering Ozumat a lot easier now (albeit, you loose 1 tentacle due to the location)
New Warrior Minion - Remornia, Living Blade
I commend Blizzard on this type of card design and well done to GoliathTheDwarf for explaining the lore behind this sword, even before it was revealed. I don't really agree with the The Leviathan comparison though for these reasons:
Ofc I'm not considering The Leviathan's dredge and draw mechanics but I'd still say Warrior would prefer the extra 4 damage from Remornia instead.
All in all, great card, great design, hoping it sees play
Remornia, Living Blade, is a New Warrior Legendary Minion and Weapon! Castle Nathria Card Reveal by IGN
It's okay :) I think you said the same thing as me