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They are canceling hundreds of cards that were supposed to be permanent…I'm just saying it's kind of stupid that these articles keep saying it's a boon to the wallets of veteran players when that is clearly not the case.

If I understand you right, you're suggesting that this is economically bad for veteran players because they've already spent a lot of money on their full Classic collection, which they were told would be evergreen in Hearthstone. If that's what you're arguing, then your argument is based on the sunk cost fallacy. Any money veteran players have spent on their Classic collection is gone, so at the point that you've collected a full collection of Classic cards, the only economic question left in the game is whether or not you're going to keep spending money on future expansions. To suggest otherwise is to assert that the sunk cost of having a full Classic set should weigh in on your present economic choices, which it plainly shouldn't.

So, if the Core Set enables you to make a meta deck with a higher percentage of "Core" cards (i.e. Evergreen cards today, Core soon) than before without costing you a cent, then you have fewer expansion cards you need to buy or craft to build your deck, and can therefore save money and in-game resources that you might have otherwise spent. This is why the Core set is economically positive for all players. The Tavern Brawl thing is an added (and long overdue) bonus on top of that, but it's not strictly necessary.

The other part of your argument that I think might merit some attention is this idea that Blizzard promised that these cards would be evergreen. No one ever bemoans the fact that expansion sets rotate (even though this same complaint could just as easily be lobbed at annual Standard rotations) because we expect those sets to rotate. Ultimately, though, I think the question you have to ask is "would knowing that this set would rotate five years after it became the evergreen Standard set have changed your behavior?" At some level, that's a personal question each player would have to answer for themselves, but I think there are two things worth noting about the question generally. First, in those five years you could have picked up 260 classic packs for free from Tavern Brawls. Second, buying into five years of the evergreen set would probably still yield a fair value when compared to a single year of an expansion set. It's hard for me to believe knowing the Classic set only had a five-year run ahead of it would have changed anything that anyone did.

So, to the extent that you feel this is unfair to veteran players, and that some refund is due for anyone who spent money on the Classic set because of this promise, I guess all I can say is "get over it." For any player who enjoyed their time playing Classic cards, I think it's disingenuous to suggest that they're owed something simply because those cards are rotating, and new players won't have to buy into the Classic set in the future. Some of the first cards I crafted were Sylvanas Windrunner and Ragnaros the Firelord because of how powerful they were, and they were among the first cards to be Hall-of-Famed. I didn't think Blizzard owed me anything because I had enjoyed all of the time I had spent playing those cards and gotten my money's worth out of them.

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By removing Classic set, they automatically trashing a great deal of time (and some money) I had collecting all those cards. And I can't push this enough, that every player should be compensated for that (or at least get the same amount of dusts for all those cards). And I don't think I'm asking a lot, because getting a fourth (1/4) of dust from a set that's been around for years is inadequate.

EDIT. Turns out, the dust gain is even less than a 1/4, since all Common is valued at 1/8, and Rares at 1/5.

You're compensated by having both your old cards (which you can dust) and getting the new core set for free.

When we made the decision to purchase at a point of time, and that product later gets discounted or retired, I don't think its even remotely logical to then demand for compensation, especially since we're talking about products that have existed way beyond 1 year.

By removing Classic set, they automatically trashing a great deal of time (and some money) I had collecting all those cards. And I can't push this enough, that every player should be compensated for that (or at least get the same amount of dusts for all those cards). And I don't think I'm asking a lot, because getting a fourth (1/4) of dust from a set that's been around for years is inadequate.

EDIT. Turns out, the dust gain is even less than a 1/4, since all Common is valued at 1/8, and Rares at 1/5.

I'm not always perfect at interpreting things like this, but it says they are recasting the voice acting. Pretty sure that means they are changing both the voice and the art. 

Well Priest has moved away from a “control” identity to more of a “value” identity.

Warlock has now taken on the role of being a heavy control deck with its win condition of either Tickatus deleting your deck or outlasting aggro decks. It removes every single minion you play and has a large assortment of removal tools, sinilar to the old Priest. It however does not have many value generation tools and what you get is what you see, you can usually play around most of the things in their deck.

Since its win condition (Tickatus does not revolve around using the board in any capacity, there are not many chances to interact with their gameplan apart from the new Vol’jin card. Its definitely a feels bad moment when your win conditions are burned away by Tickatus.

I dislike people taunting me during the game or telling me that I made a mistake so I auto-squelch everyone I play. Call it bad manners if you like, but I just want to play a game without the harassment. 

I think it's very bad manors to drag out the game by playing every last card before making the lethal kill. If you have lethal...end the game...but now (thanks to Blizzard's exp system) everyone makes every play they can before ending the game so that they can get more exp.

Why is Savjz STILL blacklisted from these kinds of events? I thought they worked all that out.

The best death cry in the game. I can't wait to kill him again.

Yeah so that's two commons and a rare. If that's all that needs to change everytime a new set is released you guys don't have a ton to complain about.

Oh damn, these look interesting...

The Bob thang is fantastic! And Pathra's got a super solid Innkeeper impression! 

Yeah when I replied I didn't see the extra page. I was close at least XD

I really loved the Innkeeper impressions and Bob's advice was quite entertaining.

Interesting deck! If I were to make any changes, I would probably cut some of the worse cards like Hibernating Rock Bear to fit in more of the good Bilgewater options. Salvage is just so good in TF decks that I don't think you can afford to not run it. It does make the Golden Ambassador a little worse, but if you add more of the Shurima Predict cards you can get a reliable turn 5-6 Golden Ambassador without sacrificing the essential TF cards.

As nice as that sound, I am afraid that no card game is immune to power creep, in the "cards that desperately need a buff" topic we already listed several cards that became obsolete.

We should also keep in mind that deck like Fiora/Shen managed to stay relevant because they got a couple of nice addition like Sharpsight,Nopeify! and Screeching Dragon

The whole point of LOR is that it is immune to power creep.

While there is a tiny bit of decks just naturally getting better they also hotfix core set cards, even bad ones.

Like what are the best deck, discards aggro with Jinx and Draven, Fiora Shen this is ancient core set tech

In fact trying to play new cards like Riven and Viktor will get you shrecked

This ain't mtg where one new set equals a whole new lineup of power creeped decks

It's like hey here's a new top tier deck to go with the other old top tier decks.

I don't see that changing honestly

I don't know how experienced you are in cardgames but you might know that with every expansion, the bar what a deck has to achieve powerlevel-wise to keep up with it's competition rises.

Because Riot did not support freljord midrange since call of the mountain and since riot still refuses to do that for some reason (i mean stall ramp was already the freljord flavour in call of the mountain), freljord is not longer up there with midrange powerlevel-wise. Other regions like demacia outshine it (especially with the new elite cards) and with lissandra bringing another lategame stall/ ramp archetype we might see trundle return but pretty sure the likes of ashe and Sejuani won't be a major player in the next meta.

Just be real and don't deny passive powercreep (larger cardpool =stronger average decks) that makes the archetypes gradually unplayable if they haven't been supported for a while 

Well her lore is a lot about freezing powerful creatures that will eventually thaw out, which I think is captured pretty well with the Frozen Thralls and summoning the Watcher. As for her league kit, her ability to deal area damage and put champions into "stasis" is captured pretty well, so I don't think it's a totally inaccurate portrayal. Her sort of "mind control" theme isn't really captured though, which I think is the only real big miss on her theme.

I mean I like the idea...but for Lissandra theming I don't really feel it, nothing about her has ever cried "Look at my big minions" before. She is all about trickery and manipulation in her lore, and in LoL she is all about crowd control. Neither of those parts of her are really displayed here. 

Cosplay competition is always the most impressive fun activity.  And the winner this year was super impressive.  Didn't even watch Blizzcon, just follow the woman who won on Instagram.  The Lady Neptulon was off the damn hook, and look for video not just pics.  There's steam, glow in the dark elements, moving parts.  It was so cool.  Handle was @panteronacosplay if anyone wants to see it.

Generically "spamming" Well played at the end of the game as the winner. Always feels condescending when the game was neither interesting nor balanced. I feel like the Well played has to be offered by the loser to the winner which then might return the favour.

Oh and playing tier 1 meta decks in casual :D

Bob's advice is good one. Would definitely recommend.

Dat thumbnail tho...Bob staring into one's soul...

Every time I see "Thrall" I think of the walking dead-like opponents from Bungie's Myth series.  Yeah, I'm old. :P

I appreciate your joke 😆