Any kind of mid-range or aggro deck would include 2 copies of this card. It is much better than Fungalmancer, which was run in every deck that wanted to put on pressure. Even without minions to buff it is still two 4/3 minions for 5 mana which is not awful. If you have a single minion then it is great. Two or more minions and it is extremely powerful.
I don't see why there is such a focus on treant/token druid or nothing.
Is it too hard to have a laugh these days? I didn't realize that one part of the community was strictly off-limits.
Similar jokes have been made at the expense of standard players as well, which greatly outnumber every other type of player in Hearthstone. People are passionate about the modes they like and I respect that, but at the end of the day, Hearthstone is meant to be fun and if we can't laugh together about how the community reacts to stuff, I really don't know what else to say.
This is the problem with the internet in general these days. People take stuff too seriously, are too polarized with their opinions, and it's too risky to say anything at all anymore. Well, that's one thing I'm not okay with and it's why we actually write opinion-based content on Out of Cards (you'll see writers give opinions fairly frequently whereas when we ran HearthPwn, that was a big no because how dare we possibly upset someone). Shit, comedians can't even say anything anymore because there is always a group of people that will get upset and cancel culture goes hard after them.
I think it's absurd that Blizzard won't make changes to cards that are clearly overpowered and hurting the game. But, Dean Ayala also said in his recent Q&A that maybe they need to gather more opinions of wild players to see if they're wrong. I can tell you, based on the years of talk about wild that I've been a witness to, Blizzard is wrong.
I'd like to do some consumer research on wild to see if our thoughts are validated on the 'just want to play my favorite deck' front. There are some, sounds like you, that want this curated experienced where the meta shifts and different decks are in power all the time. (Source)
And although I may not play the format, because it is absolutely too much of a hassle to get into, I don't hate wild. If I had that much disdain for it we wouldn't spend time every week working on content for it on the site and I certainly wouldn't have put the time in to make sure that in our homepage deck widget, community members could set wild as their preferred choice to see decks; Wild was the entire reason we let people set their own default sort.
I say none of this to "try and get you to stay" or whatever, I'm just not letting this go unanswered because you said I don't care about the format. Also, if people really want to use "cause me to leave the site" as a threat, it isn't a particularly great one to ever use against someone so I recommend not doing so in the future.
Why is the class has 3 dual class cards? The mini expansion so far only bring back dual class combination within the year.
I deeply dislike Minigame Master since it is either create for you 3 cards or 0 cards. I think the "games" need to be more consistent in exchange for lower power level on the tokens.
The mini-set only has two dual-class cards. One for the two dual-class combinations within the year.
And I think you misunderstood Minigame Master. You don't play all 3 games. You play one of them at random.
Ah. I thought the border is for Shaman lol. Oops.
And even if Minigame Master works like you said, the 66% chance of not creating a card is already too much for him to ever see play. You might get away with that on a smaller cost (like Curious Glimmerroot or Guess the Weight) but I don't think you can do that on 5 mana.
Dont think you are correct here, two of the three minigams are based on your game knowledge, you can almost guarantee to get a reward, if you know your Hearthstone cards. The only truly random one is the second one, which i agree will kinda suck if you get it and guess wrong, but i suppose it is there to "balance the scales"? So you dont "always" get a reward, and keep the gambling spirit of the card.
The second one isn't even "fully" random. It's literally just one of those ball-cup shuffle games where you follow which cup has the ball.
The best way to handle this is as some others have stated; just change it so it only attack each minion once, like how Deathwing, Mad Aspect is handled.
I think this is a horrible idea, it only works for DW because it is a friggin 12/12, you would need a big minion for Hysteria to clear anything. With this change, it would probably end up being something along the lines of Betrayal power level, which i guess is whatever, but still.
Its more balanced this way anyway. Its already going to full clear the board in most cases, so having a small chink for others to play around would be ideal. Let's not forget that played correctly, this is often just going to be a 3 mana clear the board, and that's pretty insane considering that most 3 mana clears only do 2 damage.
Betrayal is bad not because of its effect, but because it guarantees to leaves something on board, and rogues have no need of it. Hysteria, even with the proposed change, would be leaps and bounds over it in just about any scenario.
Seems like they really wanted to end it the story with Anduin victorious as king, so the story basically went from a little boy with a bell hammer to great king in all of one mission.
And now after 6 years we finally have a male rogue skin, its just a tiny little detail that its actually for the priest class instead.
Tiller can still have his jerb. But the promotion he got with one of the easiest OTKs ever that causes a player to lose their turn if they even have Ice Block up was a bit much.
That transcends just a nerf and goes in to bug fix territory. (though of course even with a fix to miss next turn bug the combo needs addressing).
Just a minor reword or mechanic tweak to tiller, hysteria or immune seems sensible.
Why is the class has 3 dual class cards? The mini expansion so far only bring back dual class combination within the year.
I deeply dislike Minigame Master since it is either create for you 3 cards or 0 cards. I think the "games" need to be more consistent in exchange for lower power level on the tokens.
The mini-set only has two dual-class cards. One for the two dual-class combinations within the year.
And I think you misunderstood Minigame Master. You don't play all 3 games. You play one of them at random.
Ah. I thought the border is for Shaman lol. Oops.
And even if Minigame Master works like you said, the 66% chance of not creating a card is already too much for him to ever see play. You might get away with that on a smaller cost (like Curious Glimmerroot or Guess the Weight) but I don't think you can do that on 5 mana.
Dont think you are correct here, two of the three minigams are based on your game knowledge, you can almost guarantee to get a reward, if you know your Hearthstone cards. The only truly random one is the second one, which i agree will kinda suck if you get it and guess wrong, but i suppose it is there to "balance the scales"? So you dont "always" get a reward, and keep the gambling spirit of the card.
Has there been any intentional cheating ever aired on stream? Not that this is a phenomenon that's unknown to the devs.
that depends what you call cheating. the described phenomenon is even used by sjow, who is one of the largest bg-streamers, live on stream.
I'm surprised that they would actually do something like this in a way that can be recorded forever. I know its not really their fault that the game has a loophole in it, but its kinda scummy either way. It basically gives the player an insurmountable advantage with the infinite gold and khadgar combo.
I guess if the entire high legend, for lack of a better term, is doing it, then it makes no sense not to. But it does make the game less playable to those that just want to play normally. I thought BG was supposed to be a more casual laid back experience.
The best way to handle this is as some others have stated; just change it so it only attack each minion once, like how Deathwing, Mad Aspect is handled.
I think this is a horrible idea, it only works for DW because it is a friggin 12/12, you would need a big minion for Hysteria to clear anything. With this change, it would probably end up being something along the lines of Betrayal power level, which i guess is whatever, but still.
Feels bad, summoning other treants doesn't count towards achievement. Only Darkmoon one. *facepalm*
Went to Duels, noticed that Druid has a new hero power option that summons Treants. "Were you this helpful Blizz?" Nope, they're Witchwood Treants because why not.
It is not much of a nerf sure it reduces consistency and shrink doesn't work, but you van still just wait for 15 health on board which is consistent enough...
Blizzard Costs A Hardworking Farmer His Job - Wretched Tiller & Hysteria Immunity Interaction is Getting Nerfed Next Week
Going to nerf Tiller as follows...whenever this minion attacks deal 2 damage to random enemy minion
Book of Heroes Datamined - The Priest Adventure of Anduin Wrynn (Bosses, Decks, Voicelines)
That portrait for sylvanas looks stunning, really wish it was available to get
New Druid Spell - Arbor Up
Any kind of mid-range or aggro deck would include 2 copies of this card. It is much better than Fungalmancer, which was run in every deck that wanted to put on pressure. Even without minions to buff it is still two 4/3 minions for 5 mana which is not awful. If you have a single minion then it is great. Two or more minions and it is extremely powerful.
I don't see why there is such a focus on treant/token druid or nothing.
Blizzard Costs A Hardworking Farmer His Job - Wretched Tiller & Hysteria Immunity Interaction is Getting Nerfed Next Week
Is it too hard to have a laugh these days? I didn't realize that one part of the community was strictly off-limits.
Similar jokes have been made at the expense of standard players as well, which greatly outnumber every other type of player in Hearthstone. People are passionate about the modes they like and I respect that, but at the end of the day, Hearthstone is meant to be fun and if we can't laugh together about how the community reacts to stuff, I really don't know what else to say.
This is the problem with the internet in general these days. People take stuff too seriously, are too polarized with their opinions, and it's too risky to say anything at all anymore. Well, that's one thing I'm not okay with and it's why we actually write opinion-based content on Out of Cards (you'll see writers give opinions fairly frequently whereas when we ran HearthPwn, that was a big no because how dare we possibly upset someone). Shit, comedians can't even say anything anymore because there is always a group of people that will get upset and cancel culture goes hard after them.
I think it's absurd that Blizzard won't make changes to cards that are clearly overpowered and hurting the game. But, Dean Ayala also said in his recent Q&A that maybe they need to gather more opinions of wild players to see if they're wrong. I can tell you, based on the years of talk about wild that I've been a witness to, Blizzard is wrong.
And although I may not play the format, because it is absolutely too much of a hassle to get into, I don't hate wild. If I had that much disdain for it we wouldn't spend time every week working on content for it on the site and I certainly wouldn't have put the time in to make sure that in our homepage deck widget, community members could set wild as their preferred choice to see decks; Wild was the entire reason we let people set their own default sort.
I say none of this to "try and get you to stay" or whatever, I'm just not letting this go unanswered because you said I don't care about the format. Also, if people really want to use "cause me to leave the site" as a threat, it isn't a particularly great one to ever use against someone so I recommend not doing so in the future.
Blizzard Costs A Hardworking Farmer His Job - Wretched Tiller & Hysteria Immunity Interaction is Getting Nerfed Next Week
Golly Bob Howdy! What’s the world coming to if someone can’t make a lighthearted joke?
Custom Class - Time Traveler (Updated February 17th - Return to Naxxramas added!)
The second one isn't even "fully" random. It's literally just one of those ball-cup shuffle games where you follow which cup has the ball.
Blizzard Costs A Hardworking Farmer His Job - Wretched Tiller & Hysteria Immunity Interaction is Getting Nerfed Next Week
You do realize that Flux is making fun of toxic players and not Wild players in general, right?
Book of Heroes Datamined - The Priest Adventure of Anduin Wrynn (Bosses, Decks, Voicelines)
Thanks for the info. It should be February 2021 not 2020 btw. This happens to many every year till March...
Deathspeaker + Tiller + Hysteria Combo...
Its more balanced this way anyway. Its already going to full clear the board in most cases, so having a small chink for others to play around would be ideal. Let's not forget that played correctly, this is often just going to be a 3 mana clear the board, and that's pretty insane considering that most 3 mana clears only do 2 damage.
Betrayal is bad not because of its effect, but because it guarantees to leaves something on board, and rogues have no need of it. Hysteria, even with the proposed change, would be leaps and bounds over it in just about any scenario.
Book of Heroes Datamined - The Priest Adventure of Anduin Wrynn (Bosses, Decks, Voicelines)
Seems like they really wanted to end it the story with Anduin victorious as king, so the story basically went from a little boy with a bell hammer to great king in all of one mission.
And now after 6 years we finally have a male rogue skin, its just a tiny little detail that its actually for the priest class instead.
Snowpocalypse
Blizzard Costs A Hardworking Farmer His Job - Wretched Tiller & Hysteria Immunity Interaction is Getting Nerfed Next Week
Tiller can still have his jerb. But the promotion he got with one of the easiest OTKs ever that causes a player to lose their turn if they even have Ice Block up was a bit much.
That transcends just a nerf and goes in to bug fix territory. (though of course even with a fix to miss next turn bug the combo needs addressing).
Just a minor reword or mechanic tweak to tiller, hysteria or immune seems sensible.
Blizzard Costs A Hardworking Farmer His Job - Wretched Tiller & Hysteria Immunity Interaction is Getting Nerfed Next Week
based devs OMEGALUL
Custom Class - Time Traveler (Updated February 17th - Return to Naxxramas added!)
Dont think you are correct here, two of the three minigams are based on your game knowledge, you can almost guarantee to get a reward, if you know your Hearthstone cards. The only truly random one is the second one, which i agree will kinda suck if you get it and guess wrong, but i suppose it is there to "balance the scales"? So you dont "always" get a reward, and keep the gambling spirit of the card.
isn't it cheating, when big streamers always disconnect on purpose in bgs?
It is, if you dont care about winning, which can be said about anything almost :)
Blizzard Costs A Hardworking Farmer His Job - Wretched Tiller & Hysteria Immunity Interaction is Getting Nerfed Next Week
ok, good riddance
isn't it cheating, when big streamers always disconnect on purpose in bgs?
I'm surprised that they would actually do something like this in a way that can be recorded forever. I know its not really their fault that the game has a loophole in it, but its kinda scummy either way. It basically gives the player an insurmountable advantage with the infinite gold and khadgar combo.
I guess if the entire high legend, for lack of a better term, is doing it, then it makes no sense not to. But it does make the game less playable to those that just want to play normally. I thought BG was supposed to be a more casual laid back experience.
Deathspeaker + Tiller + Hysteria Combo...
I think this is a horrible idea, it only works for DW because it is a friggin 12/12, you would need a big minion for Hysteria to clear anything. With this change, it would probably end up being something along the lines of Betrayal power level, which i guess is whatever, but still.
New Achievements for XP
lol
Second Dinner Adds More Ex-Blizzard Employees to Their Roster
Well we don't know specifics, we only know that Marvel hired them, so probably non-disclosure is involved
Blizzard Costs A Hardworking Farmer His Job - Wretched Tiller & Hysteria Immunity Interaction is Getting Nerfed Next Week
I'll copy-paste a comment I left up here.
There are two possible scenarios:
Blizzard Costs A Hardworking Farmer His Job - Wretched Tiller & Hysteria Immunity Interaction is Getting Nerfed Next Week
It is not much of a nerf sure it reduces consistency and shrink doesn't work, but you van still just wait for 15 health on board which is consistent enough...
Blizzard Costs A Hardworking Farmer His Job - Wretched Tiller & Hysteria Immunity Interaction is Getting Nerfed Next Week
There are two possible scenarios:
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
Battletag: Szafirmag#2937
Region: EU
Trade Only?: Yes
Done :)
Weekend Wild Hearthstone Decks - Freeze Mage, Anti-Tiller Hunter, Treant Druid, & More
Not sure what's funnier: the tiny Tiller in the thumbnail, or Swamp King Dread eye-ing it.