Shadowjeweler Hanar seems so much better than what most classes got that it seems almost deliberately perverse. This and [Hearthstone Card (Poisonmaster Putricide) Not Found] give Rogue more value than Priests and all but the greediest Warriors.
Rogue has had arguably the most value of any class for most of HS's existence. It's the entire basis of thief rogue, and many of its control-killer decks down the years. People just forget it because the class has pretty rubbish defensive tools so the value cards are usually left for off-meta decks.
I think team5 might be getting better at choosing the core cards, because in comparison with the previous two years I think there's a definite chance most of these will see some sort of play, as compared to the playerbase mostly ignoring core previously.
- Not sure how good Zilliax would be in 2023. Will it see play in every deck now as it did prior? But at very least with magnetic back it'll see play in mech decks.
- Warrior not getting any sort of draw engine is a mistake. Sword Eater is the only card here I can see that's anywhere remotely good. Ironically, with so many good mechs and magnetic coming back, Dyn-o-matic might actually never see play.
- Shaman undisputedly got the best core set. Carving Chisel got a hell lot better, but its Overdraft that takes the cake here. What with so many overload cards being introduced, if overdraft isnt back nothing would be done of it.
Priest can build Control Shadow now that Cannibalize is a pretty good stabilizer. You can also run ETC to get some specific counter spells (like Shard) and Svalna is still around as a lategame option (even though I hope they eventually buff her Vision to 2-mana now that radiant is finally gone)
Plus you can actually build a deck with Catrina that has her constantly resummoning herself thanks to Bonecaller (nvm she can't summon herself)
Pretty sure Boom, much like the Explorers or Ragnaros, is just added as a callback because there's very few Neutral legendaries you can add into Core that aren't just generally useless or just too meta-warping (to the point where they would overshadow actual new cards)
What an absolutely great way to start off the year. I'M genuinely happy they did something with Core now instead of just having it be Classic 2.0 with a bunch of baseline cards you're not actually supposed to play, but rather just compare to the better expansion cards.
Benedictus in Core is something I was hoping for this entire time because he's such an amazingly well-designed card. No pidgeonholing, just gives you a different way to play for an interesting deck-building requiremenet. Can be aggro, midrange or Control, depending on the current support.
Everything else is just too much to sum up briefly, I'm honestly thinking about doing a deedicated forum post, just because there's so many interesting possibilites now
Dr. Boom looks so bad now. Compare it to Crabatoa and it is pathetically weak. Dr. Boom is 1-mana more, has no immediate board impact, and the Boom Bots' damage is random.
Demon Hunter getting Immolation Aura and Illidari Studies is better than any of the new cards coming the class' way. The only thing that would have been better would have been getting back Silence and Blade Dance -- but I'd settle for sub-mediocrity at this rate. Kayn Sunfury has no home but okay.
Priest is looking intriguing. It gets Shard of the Naaru back which will straight-up be the best reason to play non-Shadow Priest if the reveals are any indication. Unholy DK has better recursion than Priest and Silencing that crap will be vital. Darkbishop Benedictus keeps the most competitive deck in Standard. The problem is is that all of Priest's value is dead, with most of that recursion gone. Catrina Muerte can't bring back anything that really matters until you have 9+ mana. I don't think that either Priest will have a decent control deck after rotation for awhile.
Paladin seems to be getting the previously-ubiquitous Hand of A'dal to make up for the ultra-ubiquitous Alliance Bannerman. The buffed Grimestreet Outfitter seems to be kinda the same idea. Definitely a step-down, power-wise.
Shadowjeweler Hanar seems so much better than what most classes got that it seems almost deliberately perverse. This and Potionmaster Putricide give Rogue more value than Priests and all but the greediest Warriors.
I like a lot of Warrior's early anti-aggro offerings in Core and I have (foolish, naïve) hope for its value options, but the new stuff so far doesn't pick up where Core leaves off. But since everybody else's power level goes down ('cept DK and maybe Undead Priest) maybe Core plus value is good enough.
All anti-aggro decks get Zilliax again, so there's that.
I mean, sure, I agree it is wishful thinking, but Brann's impact must have taught them something.
lolololol. You got me to actually laugh out loud, not euphamistically. They can and will do the same thing twice if it doesn't affect sales. They'll do a hundred must-be-nerfed-day-one-and-playtesters-told-you-so SN1P-SN4Ps but Rastakhan's Rumble can never happen again.
So, in this case, innocent cards can and will pay for Shadowstep's sins, as if Team 5 didn't already have enough self-imposed design limitations.
Image if the text also read (Improved by spell damage) so it would also synergise with the previous expansion...now that would be a playable card, maybe.
I mean, sure, I agree it is wishful thinking, but Brann's impact must have taught them something. The whole "We’re also looking to be more flexible about the Core Set throughout the year" section implies to me that they won't let that happen again...hopefully.
All these riffs might be 1 mana more expensive than they should be. Perhaps there's something we don't know, because I don't think the finale effect justifies an extra 1 mana cost.
This core set is absolutely nutty. They basically removed every unplayable card from it and replaced them with nutty ones. Can't wait for it to be added to the deckbuilder so I can start theorycrafting.
Yeah...Shadowstep is a big "yikes". If you include Cheat Death, you're just drowning in options. Have they made the new bounce cards redundant for a reason? I agree it's a concerning sign...although perhaps they're willing to remove cards earlier now (the "unplanned balance changes"), so maybe if it becomes a problem (again) they'll (finally) take action.
That's kinda underwhelming for a HS year announcement. Don't get me wrong, the core-set changes look cool, but that was a expected announcement. After they canceled the Blizzcon the new HS year announcements became the only time in the year that created big hype moments.
Just think about the big Year of the pheonix announcement stream. Bam! first ever new class. Bam! new expansion. Bam! Full duplicate protection. Bam! free deck for new and returning players. Bam! Priest classic set rework. Bam! Rank rework. And here is 15 minutes of new gameplay while we are at it. Also don't forget the new mode that's coming in the next expansion, aswell as the progression rework and Achivements in the 3. Expansion. And just wait until you find out what the spell locked things for the 2. and 3. Phase are.
Meanwhile here everything they said was essentially "We are going to change the core-set and there will be a big Battlegrounds update each expansion. Oh, and there will also be some wild changes sometime this year". Sure, there are some unannounced things on the Roadmap (that they didn't even show in the video), but it's hard to get excited over something that we don't know anything about.
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
Rogue has had arguably the most value of any class for most of HS's existence. It's the entire basis of thief rogue, and many of its control-killer decks down the years. People just forget it because the class has pretty rubbish defensive tools so the value cards are usually left for off-meta decks.
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
I think team5 might be getting better at choosing the core cards, because in comparison with the previous two years I think there's a definite chance most of these will see some sort of play, as compared to the playerbase mostly ignoring core previously.
Some of the bests;
- Immolation Aura (probably the most important card dhunter can ever ask for), Cat Trick, Darkbishop Benedictus, Shard of the Naaru, Overdraft, Ancestral Knowledge (the only important overload card for shaman), Thing from Below, Defile, Dirty Rat, Cult Neophyte, Tour Guide
Comments;
- Cult Neophyte in especially is needed, because I cant handle yet another 4 months of drakas and Sinstone Graveyard.
- Not sure how good Zilliax would be in 2023. Will it see play in every deck now as it did prior? But at very least with magnetic back it'll see play in mech decks.
- Warrior not getting any sort of draw engine is a mistake. Sword Eater is the only card here I can see that's anywhere remotely good. Ironically, with so many good mechs and magnetic coming back, Dyn-o-matic might actually never see play.
- Shaman undisputedly got the best core set. Carving Chisel got a hell lot better, but its Overdraft that takes the cake here. What with so many overload cards being introduced, if overdraft isnt back nothing would be done of it.
- No more Radiant Elemental = :)
- Dread Corsair back in standard might be a mistake. But quest warrior is gone, and no one plays pirate rogue anymore, I guess.
New Demon Hunter Minion - Eye of Shadow
Alright, so now that Aldrachi is confirmed to still be in Core I have no idea what the point of this is supposed to be.
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
Priest can build Control Shadow now that Cannibalize is a pretty good stabilizer. You can also run ETC to get some specific counter spells (like Shard) and Svalna is still around as a lategame option (even though I hope they eventually buff her Vision to 2-mana now that radiant is finally gone)
Plus you can actually build a deck with Catrina that has her constantly resummoning herself thanks to Bonecaller (nvm she can't summon herself)
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
Pretty sure Boom, much like the Explorers or Ragnaros, is just added as a callback because there's very few Neutral legendaries you can add into Core that aren't just generally useless or just too meta-warping (to the point where they would overshadow actual new cards)
All Day 6 Card Reveals for Hearthstone's Festival of Legends Expansion - 8 New Hunter & Death Knight Cards!
First playable Rager confirmed?
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
What an absolutely great way to start off the year. I'M genuinely happy they did something with Core now instead of just having it be Classic 2.0 with a bunch of baseline cards you're not actually supposed to play, but rather just compare to the better expansion cards.
Benedictus in Core is something I was hoping for this entire time because he's such an amazingly well-designed card. No pidgeonholing, just gives you a different way to play for an interesting deck-building requiremenet. Can be aggro, midrange or Control, depending on the current support.
Everything else is just too much to sum up briefly, I'm honestly thinking about doing a deedicated forum post, just because there's so many interesting possibilites now
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
Printing Discard support in the last expansion of the year and then never supporting it through the next one is a call-back to Rastakhan's Rumble.
They're really going all out with those references, huh?
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
Jeklik my balls, Blizzard
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
Dr. Boom looks so bad now. Compare it to Crabatoa and it is pathetically weak. Dr. Boom is 1-mana more, has no immediate board impact, and the Boom Bots' damage is random.
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
Demon Hunter getting Immolation Aura and Illidari Studies is better than any of the new cards coming the class' way. The only thing that would have been better would have been getting back Silence and Blade Dance -- but I'd settle for sub-mediocrity at this rate. Kayn Sunfury has no home but okay.
Priest is looking intriguing. It gets Shard of the Naaru back which will straight-up be the best reason to play non-Shadow Priest if the reveals are any indication. Unholy DK has better recursion than Priest and Silencing that crap will be vital. Darkbishop Benedictus keeps the most competitive deck in Standard. The problem is is that all of Priest's value is dead, with most of that recursion gone. Catrina Muerte can't bring back anything that really matters until you have 9+ mana. I don't think that either Priest will have a decent control deck after rotation for awhile.
Paladin seems to be getting the previously-ubiquitous Hand of A'dal to make up for the ultra-ubiquitous Alliance Bannerman. The buffed Grimestreet Outfitter seems to be kinda the same idea. Definitely a step-down, power-wise.
Shadowjeweler Hanar seems so much better than what most classes got that it seems almost deliberately perverse. This and Potionmaster Putricide give Rogue more value than Priests and all but the greediest Warriors.
I like a lot of Warrior's early anti-aggro offerings in Core and I have (foolish, naïve) hope for its value options, but the new stuff so far doesn't pick up where Core leaves off. But since everybody else's power level goes down ('cept DK and maybe Undead Priest) maybe Core plus value is good enough.
All anti-aggro decks get Zilliax again, so there's that.
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
lolololol. You got me to actually laugh out loud, not euphamistically. They can and will do the same thing twice if it doesn't affect sales. They'll do a hundred must-be-nerfed-day-one-and-playtesters-told-you-so SN1P-SN4Ps but Rastakhan's Rumble can never happen again.
So, in this case, innocent cards can and will pay for Shadowstep's sins, as if Team 5 didn't already have enough self-imposed design limitations.
New Hunter Minion - Arrow Smith
Image if the text also read (Improved by spell damage) so it would also synergise with the previous expansion...now that would be a playable card, maybe.
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
I mean, sure, I agree it is wishful thinking, but Brann's impact must have taught them something. The whole "We’re also looking to be more flexible about the Core Set throughout the year" section implies to me that they won't let that happen again...hopefully.
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
Wishful thinking, as they left Brann in standard for the entire year - a card that caused countless others to get nerfed
New Warrior Spell - Verse Riff
All these riffs might be 1 mana more expensive than they should be. Perhaps there's something we don't know, because I don't think the finale effect justifies an extra 1 mana cost.
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
This core set is absolutely nutty. They basically removed every unplayable card from it and replaced them with nutty ones. Can't wait for it to be added to the deckbuilder so I can start theorycrafting.
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
Yeah...Shadowstep is a big "yikes". If you include Cheat Death, you're just drowning in options. Have they made the new bounce cards redundant for a reason? I agree it's a concerning sign...although perhaps they're willing to remove cards earlier now (the "unplanned balance changes"), so maybe if it becomes a problem (again) they'll (finally) take action.
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
That's kinda underwhelming for a HS year announcement. Don't get me wrong, the core-set changes look cool, but that was a expected announcement. After they canceled the Blizzcon the new HS year announcements became the only time in the year that created big hype moments.
Just think about the big Year of the pheonix announcement stream. Bam! first ever new class. Bam! new expansion. Bam! Full duplicate protection. Bam! free deck for new and returning players. Bam! Priest classic set rework. Bam! Rank rework. And here is 15 minutes of new gameplay while we are at it. Also don't forget the new mode that's coming in the next expansion, aswell as the progression rework and Achivements in the 3. Expansion. And just wait until you find out what the spell locked things for the 2. and 3. Phase are.
Meanwhile here everything they said was essentially "We are going to change the core-set and there will be a big Battlegrounds update each expansion. Oh, and there will also be some wild changes sometime this year". Sure, there are some unannounced things on the Roadmap (that they didn't even show in the video), but it's hard to get excited over something that we don't know anything about.
Blizzard Reveals Hearthstone's New Core Set for 2023 - Year of the Wolf
Well... Shadowstep remains in core which everyone and their dog were asking to be removed 😓 makes me concerned...
Some other weird things going on with this core set too:
And one random bit of info is that all tradable cards aren't actually rotating.
Least we might get some Dirty Rat shenanigans again. And those warrior replacements look... promising
All Day 6 Card Reveals for Hearthstone's Festival of Legends Expansion - 8 New Hunter & Death Knight Cards!
That's a lot of effort for such a simple card. I mean, in spite all his rage he is still just a pig in a cage.
New Death Knight Spell - Death Growl
With an effect like this, they have missed a great opportunity for a contagion pun ...
Death Growl's Flavor: GRRRRR I'M SO ANGRY BECAUSE I'M DEAD!
New Warrior Spell - Chorus Riff
I guess minion tutor plus +2/+2 buff is pretty good.
New Demon Hunter Spell - Going Down Swinging
NERF TARGET!!!!!