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I think that galakround change is fair, maybe also a nerf to Togwaggle's treasures? draw 3 they cost (1) as well? I don't see how having a lackey in play is a deck restriction of any kind.

I am glad to hear that resource generation is gonna be toned down this year.. and going forward.

It's really hard to balance a class that is introduced with 6 less years of cards compared to every other class, they had to make some cards very strong so it won't be underplayed when introduced, they at least addressed most problematic cards by now.

Also it's good they didn't just kill every single OP card and made them unplayable.

Good to hear.

The rogue's galakrond it's too good, i'm literally playing the same deck from after the galakrond adventure came out and it works so well that i didn't even include any new card. I still can't believe they thought it was fine drawing multiple cards and make them cost 0.

I don't see a problem with dragoncaller, the problem is the box, dragoncaller rewarding your deck to have dragons in it is very interesting and not broken by itself... Recently i wasn't watching heartstone for a while on twitch so i wanted to see a bit, went on Theo's stream and the first thing i saw is him playing dragoncaller on turn 5 and puzzle box, the puzzle box cleared opponent's board, give him a minion, 8 attack on his hero from the DH's spell, gained two extra mana from druid's spell and drew some cards; i instantly closed and will not watch hearthstone for a while.

EDIT: card generation is fine, but has to be done in a smart way, improving the interactivity, not as it is now. 

About DQ Alex and Zephrys: they are way over the curve, so it's obvious they will still see play until they rotate out. Eliminating them from the standard (by early rotation or nerf) means pushing out all the highlander decks, unless they nerf them in such a way that they are worse but still enough good to be build around cards

Quite an off topic but not totally.

Does anyone know what is the pity timer for golden epics?

My all time favorite deck is Reno Priest: I find the interaction between Raza the Chained and Shadowreaper Anduin so fun that when the former got unnerfed I crafted the whole list and I've brought it to high legend multiple times since then.

Pew pew pew

Maybe nerf alex to discover one dragon that costs 0, that way it increases the quality of reward but lowers the quantity? according to their definitions to when a card should cost 0 they said it's ok if the deck made sacrifices for that so that's fair..

zephrys can become a 2/2 if they want to nerf his power level without hurting the mechanic, it would make him worse as a keep for tempo purposes, but won't change his general case.

Do you really think that the fact that a dev likes a certain archetype means that it will be continuously pushed? Cause if your answer is yes then I'm afraid you're pretty narrow-minded. No offense but it's just the truth.

The devs are people like us, who have presences and such, but I really (and I can't stress it enough) doubt that their personal biases are the main parameter they use to balance the game. It would be extremely foolish and the game would be in a much more terrible situation.

Iksar just went through an interview in which he got asked some personal questions, what did you expect him to answer? "Well, I can't say any deck above tier 2 cause then the community will cry over my personal tastes, so I'll go with Mech Mage to make everyone happy"? People like playing strong deck, no shit.

Arcane Flakmage (in Wild at least) is a stupid card and I can get along with it, but Mage is supposed to be good at Secrets (even the last set got us a couple goodies), so what? 

Imagine all the devs enjoying Tempo Warrior or Wild Reno Priest right now, but just because you don't know their name then everything is fine and not biased?

When life gives you lemons and a leaf blower, then I guess it is time to make a fresh and zesty mortar cannon. It's not what either was meant for but it does, erm, something.

Thus the joy of playing Burgle Rogue is explained: you have a plan, and part of that plan is to make the plan up as you go along based on what rubbish or brilliance your cards give you. Every game is different, you get to make use of even the most unloved cards, and the occasional game-breaking multi-class combos show even the best meta decks who's boss.

Their logic makes no sense...

It's good they're addressing the amount of random generated crap. I am so tired of playing games where my opponent has an entire hand of cards that didn't start in their deck.

But one concern... card generation is Demon Hunter's main "weakness". So if you pull back all the other classes card generation, how does that help anyone catch up to DH? 

DH needs an actual weakness instead of being good at everything that is important. 

Zephrys and Alex are fine. The issue is the amount of deck cycling some decks are capable of. Non-Highlander decks shouldn't be running Highlander cards. I've been thinking of throwing Zephrys into my Discolock list because there are games that I am sitting at 10-15 cards left in my deck on T4.

Also, for DH it's fine to have cards reduced to 0, but for Rogue it's not? I agree Galakrond is an issue in Rogue. I like that they act surprised by the fact that cards that reduce mana cost are problematic. The community has been complaining about this for years. 

"For Skull, I think those cards being reduced to (0) is less of a problem because Skull itself isn't also a tempo card."

What are you smoking? How many games have I won by playing a Skull for a ridiculous tempo swing that the opponent has no chance to recover from? How is it not a tempo card? 

What does Whizbang do in wild right now?

So do yall think Tournament mode will be coming?  All I gotta say is Half-life 3 confirmed!

 what do you mean? you think its fine that they push secret mage even after all these years? in fact its stronger than ever unless you dont count wild. sure it aint no tier 1 deck, but Big Priest wasnt one too or quest rogue caverns back in the day and they still saw merits in nerfing them which I agree.

Do you think flak mage is fine or a board wipe on a secret (flame ward) is fine? thats just pushing secret mage and you know it.

at the end of the day what im trying to say is that if you to run a community wihtout paying attention to what ppl say than you are running a dictatorship and its amazing how DH is getting nerfed all the time but they keep twaeking each nerf so that it has a small upside WHILE avoiding the n1 problem from the start which is the Warglaives weapon. that is ludicrous that is not being nerfed. its what carries DH hard

I'd argue the deck cycling is more OP. You wouldn't be seeing so many non-highlander decks using the highlander legendaries if they weren't able to go through their decks so easily. 

In other card games such as Yu-Gi-Oh they restricted then banned many powerful card/deck cycling (Pot of Greed & Graceful Charity in the early days) because it made certain strategies particularly consistent. Perhaps HS could adapt their approach on deck cycling.

And in Yu-Gi-Oh decks are 40 cards, not the 30, with generally less powerful cycling than HS. Drawing even a couple cards from your 40 card deck with one card is pretty powerful. In HS it's easy to draw 3+ cards from a 30 card deck with little to no cost exchange.

If the pool of dragons is what you're concerned about that is an easy fix. Release 3-4 lower to mid quality dragons and it makes the highrolls less consistent. No need to nerf the cards directly.

Hopefully they shake it up completely so all the top decks are reduced in power and give some other ideas a chance to shine. As said before, when cards designed to be put in highlander decks are put in non highlander decks you know they are OP.

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Let me remind you this are the same guys that have declared their all time favorite decks are Secret Mage and Pirate Warrior and in fact Iksar himself is seen playing Secret Mage from time to time. How could you expect solid ideas from this ppl.

This is why we receive less and less communication from the devs

I don't understand the meaning of your post: yeah, Ysera, Unleashed and Dragonqueen Alexstrasza are indeed both good cards, but how does that relate to the news?

Their effect is not much RNG related, but rather it depends on Standard's Dragon pool, a tribe designed to contain units with a big body/strong effect. It's not that those cards are tweaked so that they'll give you minions that are bigger/more impactful than the average Dragon.

Edit: it appears that I may have poorly expressed my ideas. See Lyra's comment.

Got to nerf the reason to run highlander in the first place. I fear they'll nerf the dragons from alex to 1 mana, which imo makes the card pretty terrible to be honest. An Alex with 1 mana dragons played at turn 9 means you are dropping a vanilla 8/8 that does nothing and does not affect the board. An Alex with 1 mana dragons played at turn 10, assuming the best high-roll, means you are dropping 2 8/8's on the board, which for a turn 10 play is extremely lackluster.

Nobody is going to competitively play highlander in standard if the rewards for making your deck inconsistent get neutered. 

EDIT: I also don't know how they would plan to nerf Zeph, or why. You know how to play around the card because you always know what he could offer the opponent at the various mana break points. A good player is never surprised by the result of Zeph.

Time for some positivity! What do you like about the decks you like? For instance, I like the wide variety of combos in Quest Warlock, and I love how outcast and the amount of damage available make you think ahead in Tempo Demon Hunter. What are yours?

were you expecting great ideas from the ppl that brought you Demon Hunter in such broken state?

Let me remind you this are the same guys that have declared their all time favorite decks are Secret Mage and Pirate Warrior and in fact Iksar himself is seen playing Secret Mage from time to time. How could you expect solid ideas from this ppl.

AT LEAST they say they want to reduce the random aspects of the game that is good.

You forgot to add /s

The nerfs to Dragonqueen Alex and the genie guy I have to assume is more for highlander hunter. Mage will just get shot down in the crossfire as usual. 

Dragoncaster i can see being an issue, probably can be changed to “reduce the cost of your next spell by X” for some value of X. But the combination of all of the above will bury highlander mage unfairly.

In fact I was wandering why dragons created by Ysera or Alextraza were almost always VERY good ...

Yes, lets nerf mage. Solid idea.

Yea, I don´t get it either. In may I finished D5 in Wild and D1 in Standard - got 9 stars for both, all good. Last season I didnt have much free time to play, so I finished  Plat 3 on Standard and only Gold 5 on Wild... I expected to get 7 stars for Standard and 5 for Wild... But to my surprise I still got 9 stars for both ladders just like the previous season.. Is it intended? Aren´t we suppose to lose stars if we derank previous season?

I barely watched his streams, but this whole situation is heartbreaking because his tweets were almost ask for help, but it never comes on time.

Rest In Peace Byron, at least I hope you finally found it...