Been a little busy so you might have noticed I submitted my Launch early (and didn't provide much feedback *cough*). Not feeling confident in my stuff, again; definitely think there was room there to improve, but there's always next week.
Its not strictly a powercreep over Faceless Manipulator but it does enable combos, and probably will at some point.
You just can't dismiss a card like this, even if its application is currently unknown. Its clearly printed for a reason other than filler. Ive been wanting to play Moonbeam druid for ages in standard, might actually get to do that now.
It has charge. That alone makes it dangerous, and worthy of respect.
DK, pally and hunter are in good position to buff this and finish the game. In fact, it gives BBF DK a viable finisher where in the past its mostly just Gnome Muncher or bust.
This will see play, if only for one expansion. I wouldn't be surprised if it got nerfed actually. There's bound to be something that breaks this card within 2 years.
Because for 6 mana without rush or taunt, its just going to get you killed. Even in deathrattle decks, this card is simply too slow and inconsistent.
I would love it if this actually becomes viable, so to give it a happier ironic end, but more likely team5 gave it a very apt name deliberately knowing that it'll be nothing more than arena filler.
There's probably something interesting someone will come out with this but for me its just a card I use to complete achievements.
Because I simply dont see where this card fits in. Its almost a tech card, to be used in case you play jailer against a control deck, or get scammed off your deck in some way. Maybe as a band card in ETC, that's the best thing you can say about it. Because 90% of the time this card is just redundant.
Concert Promo-Drake is pretty bad honestly. The card would seem mediocre even if the finale was a battlecry. Maybe some dragon deck would use it in standard mostly for the tradeable. In wild maybe Deathwing, Dragonlord/Necrium Apothecary Rogue uses it (I’m not sure if anyone still plays that deck though)
Photographer Fizzle looks like what you’d get if Elise the Trailblazer and [Hearthstone Card (Dead Man’s Hand) Not Found] had a baby. The snapshot is probably worth as much as prime usually. Seems like a neat value card.
Rolling Stone Is a decent card. I don’t think it’s quite good enough to see generic play, but elemental decks probably love this.
Paparazzi will of course not see play in wild. But in standard this has a really nice chance to shine in a post rotation meta with a reduced discover pool.
Freebird is a cool card. In standard most of the stuff that would synergize with this is rotating though and it’s obviously too slow to see legitimate play in wild. Does seem fun to mess with at least
- Photographer Fizzle is a card that was good years ago when attrition control was viable but now its niche. Its best use is likely as tech card for when you decide to play jailer and your opponent is a control deck who can deal with that. Likely an ETC band card at best.
- Freebird is the kind of build around you'd wish was at least 1 mana cheaper, but likely that the charge keyword made it untenable. The ironic thing is that its more likely to be used in buff decks as a finisher than as a genuine build-around in a deck. DK, paladin, and hunter decks are prime suspects.
- Rolling Stone is probably an indication that shaman might go elemental this expansion. Or we can expect a class to do so, like mage.
- Rowdy Fan is almost like Abusive Sergeant in many ways, and will likely see play in plenty of aggro decks.
- Party Animal is an indication that there's going to be at least one class going menagerie. On its own its interesting, because what this does essentially is handbuffing at least 1-2 cards in your hand. Might be decent enough to be honest. First expansion past rotation often is slow enough that cards like this aren't always total crap. If it was available today I can see at least hunter playing it.
Probably not as good as Cariel overall, but I don't think we should underestimate the possibility of forcing your opponent to spend mana in order to be able to damage you.
At 3-mana this could be pretty strong at holding off aggro until you can decisively stabilize.
Mish-Mash Mosher is Batterhead 2.0 with control and stats sacrificed for an increased chance of having the attack needed to clear its targets. It's . . . worse. It's worse. Mosher may be able to snipe some minions behind Taunts, but that corner-case advantage still sees it behind the original. Its greatest advantage is the Undead tag which gives it synergies its predecessor didn't have available; that probably accounts for the 2 less Health.
Audio Medic is an extremely solid card that does the Zilliax job of solving aggro problems with decent minions (with the minor downside of failing a bit when you are forced to float mana, like when you're topdecking).
Crowd Surfer helping your opponent's minions is a huge eeeww-factor relegating it to regrettable devolve/evolve outcomes and the jankiest of obscure jank decks. It can't even justify the card slot it occupies with its stats. It absolutely could have stood to be improved, either statwise or with its ability being more significant for its original user.
Party Animal doesn't have a handbuff deck that can manage the tribal array that would justify it in constructed at the moment.
Annoying Fan and Rowdy Fan I can't see making the cut in constructed, but could be compelling in Arena. Rowdy Fan almost works with Audio Medic, until the latter's Finale keyword makes that awkward.
Candleraiser feels like Fungalmancer. If Dormant doesn't make a comeback, this is an Arena monster but it will never be able ot reliably have the board it needs to justify itself in constructed.
Cowbell Soloist would feel way better if its Health wasn't sub-par. It won't always be able to trade evenly, even less trade up, so, combined with a lack of relevant tribes, I don't think this sees constructed play.
Unpopular Has-Been costs too much. It should have had Taunt or Rush. Arena only.
Edit:
Paparazzi. Those are some solid stats on a Discover effect. In the dog-days of early rotation, I can see this played in some early slow decks. In Arena? Instant pick.
Concert Promo-Drake. Arena-only, even with Tradeable. This just barely missed being the most noxious Lady Prestor spawn in Standard.
Rolling Stone. If the design team is successful, this is an annoying part of an aggro elemental deck that we haven’t seen yet. Traditionally, this is Shaman, but if the devs don’t suck at spreading out archetypes, Mage will have one, too. It’s extremely all-or-nothing unless rotation gives us Fire Fly and/or similar generators that let us hold a 1-cost minion with little opportunity cost.
Photographer Fizzle. The future savior of jank combo streamer decks everywhere. Drop Baleful Banker into the rotation and ya got yourself infinite recursion if you’re patient enough to draw the whole thing back into your hand. You can do this already in Wild, obviously.
Edit: Didn't realize that Fizzle actually puts a spell in your deck with the snapshot -- like Elise the Trailblazer did with the Un'Goro pack. That makes recursion WAY easier. You don't need to recur the Fizzle, just the spell that's now in your deck. You can do that with Radiant Elemental and Shadow Visions and Grand Magister Rommath, among other methods. Though I don't know if Rommath will correctly remember the cards in the photograph.
Four mana is a lot more than you’d like for recursion shenanigans, though. Unless Scarlet Webweaver or another permanent cost reducer shows up in the rotation, this won’t work at all. And Webweaver is still too expensive.
Obsessive Fan. There’s no aura minion that one could justify keeping alive known right now. Maybe Tony, King of Piracy, but that’s a rather silly use for a card that could actually be used to win. There are definitely times where this can win the game, especially for aggro: you get a super-high damage minion out and the opponent needs to kill it before you snowball, for example. But that eventuality doesn’t justify fitting this into a constructed deck.
What says “I want this to live, but I’m okay with it being destroyed if the opponent first pays the tax of destroying a 6-Health minion”?
I think it's so you have full context of what you can do when each class is revealed. Cover Artist, Photographer Fizzle, Party Animal; these cards could go well with what's offered by the Paladin or Death Knight or whatever, but we need to know about them for theorycrafting. If you save Neutral for last, every class' offerings will feel incomplete; instead, by doin' them first, you'll know everything about each class in their respective moment (save for the Core set, I guess).
I like this new reveal style. We're starting with the general neutral theme of the crowd and concert-goers (with amazing flavor by the way) and then we'll be amping up to featuring the cool stuff in each of the bands. So much better to have the reveals get more exciting than blow out with the best stuff first and dump everything else afterward. This is like we're milling in the crowd waiting for the concert to begin and I feel the same excitement!
This is weird. Normally they try to lead with the good stuff and leave the neutral dump for last. Now they're essentially leading with it as if these are cards we're meant to be excited about. Either they're powering the game down, which is fine by me, or the set has little to offer, or there's something utterly broken coming up.
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Annoying Fan is a Glacial Shard for mechs more or less. If your opponent can kill it immediately it has no effect but if they fail to kill it for multiple turns it's a better freeze. Though Glacial Shard was everywhere back in the day, I think this only makes the cut in mech decks.
Candleraiser - I'm not sure if it's good enough to see play but I think it might in standard. It gives your minions a decent amount of stickiness and has a decent body. It's no Fungalmancer or Battleground Battlemaster but it looks like a decent tempo card.
Party Animal is a decent menagerie card. If warrior still had it's stuff from Darkmoon faire I think it'd slot in perfectly. If there's a couple more cards that push menagerie decks this expansion maybe this does see play.
Mish-Mash Mosher is an okay big undead minion, it functions as a newer Batterhead, maybe if warlock or someone gets more big undead support this card sees play but, I don't see it right now. I'm not even certain if it's better than Batterhead and Hulking Overfiend
Crowd Surfer is probably not good enough to see play. It kind of sucks to play it on turn 1 without coining out something else and it could relatively easily work against you. Is probably really annoying for some decks at least.
Rowdy Fan is a okay 3 drop. The body while not amazing does ensure it sticks usually and you usually are using it to hit for an extra 4 damage immediately.
Obsessive Fan is easily the worst card of the bunch. Maybe if this was a 1 mana 1/3. I could humor it, but as a 4 drop this probably never making the cut. Maybe if you wanted to protect a naga giant or similar card, but probably not.
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Words of Power - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Good luck to everyone in the voting!
Been a little busy so you might have noticed I submitted my Launch early (and didn't provide much feedback *cough*). Not feeling confident in my stuff, again; definitely think there was room there to improve, but there's always next week.
We're beyond the half-way point for the Season D:
New Neutral Minion - Cover Artist
Its not strictly a powercreep over Faceless Manipulator but it does enable combos, and probably will at some point.
You just can't dismiss a card like this, even if its application is currently unknown. Its clearly printed for a reason other than filler. Ive been wanting to play Moonbeam druid for ages in standard, might actually get to do that now.
New Neutral Minion - Freebird
It has charge. That alone makes it dangerous, and worthy of respect.
DK, pally and hunter are in good position to buff this and finish the game. In fact, it gives BBF DK a viable finisher where in the past its mostly just Gnome Muncher or bust.
This will see play, if only for one expansion. I wouldn't be surprised if it got nerfed actually. There's bound to be something that breaks this card within 2 years.
New Neutral Minion - Unpopular Has-Been
Likely shit to be honest.
Because for 6 mana without rush or taunt, its just going to get you killed. Even in deathrattle decks, this card is simply too slow and inconsistent.
I would love it if this actually becomes viable, so to give it a happier ironic end, but more likely team5 gave it a very apt name deliberately knowing that it'll be nothing more than arena filler.
New Neutral Minion - Photographer Fizzle
There's probably something interesting someone will come out with this but for me its just a card I use to complete achievements.
Because I simply dont see where this card fits in. Its almost a tech card, to be used in case you play jailer against a control deck, or get scammed off your deck in some way. Maybe as a band card in ETC, that's the best thing you can say about it. Because 90% of the time this card is just redundant.
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Tradeable as an evergreen keyword seems neat
Concert Promo-Drake is pretty bad honestly. The card would seem mediocre even if the finale was a battlecry. Maybe some dragon deck would use it in standard mostly for the tradeable. In wild maybe Deathwing, Dragonlord/Necrium Apothecary Rogue uses it (I’m not sure if anyone still plays that deck though)
Photographer Fizzle looks like what you’d get if Elise the Trailblazer and [Hearthstone Card (Dead Man’s Hand) Not Found] had a baby. The snapshot is probably worth as much as prime usually. Seems like a neat value card.
Rolling Stone Is a decent card. I don’t think it’s quite good enough to see generic play, but elemental decks probably love this.
Paparazzi will of course not see play in wild. But in standard this has a really nice chance to shine in a post rotation meta with a reduced discover pool.
Freebird is a cool card. In standard most of the stuff that would synergize with this is rotating though and it’s obviously too slow to see legitimate play in wild. Does seem fun to mess with at least
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Some interesting cards;
- Photographer Fizzle is a card that was good years ago when attrition control was viable but now its niche. Its best use is likely as tech card for when you decide to play jailer and your opponent is a control deck who can deal with that. Likely an ETC band card at best.
- Freebird is the kind of build around you'd wish was at least 1 mana cheaper, but likely that the charge keyword made it untenable. The ironic thing is that its more likely to be used in buff decks as a finisher than as a genuine build-around in a deck. DK, paladin, and hunter decks are prime suspects.
- Rolling Stone is probably an indication that shaman might go elemental this expansion. Or we can expect a class to do so, like mage.
- Rowdy Fan is almost like Abusive Sergeant in many ways, and will likely see play in plenty of aggro decks.
- Party Animal is an indication that there's going to be at least one class going menagerie. On its own its interesting, because what this does essentially is handbuffing at least 1-2 cards in your hand. Might be decent enough to be honest. First expansion past rotation often is slow enough that cards like this aren't always total crap. If it was available today I can see at least hunter playing it.
New Neutral Minion - Annoying Fan
IT'S THE GRAND CHAMPION!
New Paladin Spell - Starlight Groove
Libram of Wisdom ensures a forever Shield.
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Mish-Mash Mosher is Batterhead 2.0 with control and stats sacrificed for an increased chance of having the attack needed to clear its targets. It's . . . worse. It's worse. Mosher may be able to snipe some minions behind Taunts, but that corner-case advantage still sees it behind the original. Its greatest advantage is the Undead tag which gives it synergies its predecessor didn't have available; that probably accounts for the 2 less Health.
Audio Medic is an extremely solid card that does the Zilliax job of solving aggro problems with decent minions (with the minor downside of failing a bit when you are forced to float mana, like when you're topdecking).
Crowd Surfer helping your opponent's minions is a huge eeeww-factor relegating it to regrettable devolve/evolve outcomes and the jankiest of obscure jank decks. It can't even justify the card slot it occupies with its stats. It absolutely could have stood to be improved, either statwise or with its ability being more significant for its original user.
Party Animal doesn't have a handbuff deck that can manage the tribal array that would justify it in constructed at the moment.
Annoying Fan and Rowdy Fan I can't see making the cut in constructed, but could be compelling in Arena. Rowdy Fan almost works with Audio Medic, until the latter's Finale keyword makes that awkward.
Candleraiser feels like Fungalmancer. If Dormant doesn't make a comeback, this is an Arena monster but it will never be able ot reliably have the board it needs to justify itself in constructed.
Cowbell Soloist would feel way better if its Health wasn't sub-par. It won't always be able to trade evenly, even less trade up, so, combined with a lack of relevant tribes, I don't think this sees constructed play.
Unpopular Has-Been costs too much. It should have had Taunt or Rush. Arena only.
Edit:
Paparazzi. Those are some solid stats on a Discover effect. In the dog-days of early rotation, I can see this played in some early slow decks. In Arena? Instant pick.
Concert Promo-Drake. Arena-only, even with Tradeable. This just barely missed being the most noxious Lady Prestor spawn in Standard.
Rolling Stone. If the design team is successful, this is an annoying part of an aggro elemental deck that we haven’t seen yet. Traditionally, this is Shaman, but if the devs don’t suck at spreading out archetypes, Mage will have one, too. It’s extremely all-or-nothing unless rotation gives us Fire Fly and/or similar generators that let us hold a 1-cost minion with little opportunity cost.
Photographer Fizzle. The future savior of jank combo streamer decks everywhere. Drop Baleful Banker into the rotation and ya got yourself infinite recursion if you’re patient enough to draw the whole thing back into your hand. You can do this already in Wild, obviously.
Edit: Didn't realize that Fizzle actually puts a spell in your deck with the snapshot -- like Elise the Trailblazer did with the Un'Goro pack. That makes recursion WAY easier. You don't need to recur the Fizzle, just the spell that's now in your deck. You can do that with Radiant Elemental and Shadow Visions and Grand Magister Rommath, among other methods. Though I don't know if Rommath will correctly remember the cards in the photograph.
Freebird.
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Elwynn Boar at home.
Four mana is a lot more than you’d like for recursion shenanigans, though. Unless Scarlet Webweaver or another permanent cost reducer shows up in the rotation, this won’t work at all. And Webweaver is still too expensive.
Obsessive Fan. There’s no aura minion that one could justify keeping alive known right now. Maybe Tony, King of Piracy, but that’s a rather silly use for a card that could actually be used to win. There are definitely times where this can win the game, especially for aggro: you get a super-high damage minion out and the opponent needs to kill it before you snowball, for example. But that eventuality doesn’t justify fitting this into a constructed deck.
What says “I want this to live, but I’m okay with it being destroyed if the opponent first pays the tax of destroying a 6-Health minion”?
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I think it's so you have full context of what you can do when each class is revealed. Cover Artist, Photographer Fizzle, Party Animal; these cards could go well with what's offered by the Paladin or Death Knight or whatever, but we need to know about them for theorycrafting. If you save Neutral for last, every class' offerings will feel incomplete; instead, by doin' them first, you'll know everything about each class in their respective moment (save for the Core set, I guess).
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I like this new reveal style. We're starting with the general neutral theme of the crowd and concert-goers (with amazing flavor by the way) and then we'll be amping up to featuring the cool stuff in each of the bands. So much better to have the reveals get more exciting than blow out with the best stuff first and dump everything else afterward. This is like we're milling in the crowd waiting for the concert to begin and I feel the same excitement!
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This is weird. Normally they try to lead with the good stuff and leave the neutral dump for last. Now they're essentially leading with it as if these are cards we're meant to be excited about. Either they're powering the game down, which is fine by me, or the set has little to offer, or there's something utterly broken coming up.
New Neutral Minion - Rolling Stone
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New Neutral Minion - Photographer Fizzle
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New Neutral Minion - Freebird
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New Neutral Minion - Concert Promo-Drake
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New Neutral Minion - Paparazzi
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Tradeable goin' evergreen? Neat.
Regarding Fizzle, I'm honestly surprised it took this long for a Neutral Dead Man's Hand.
New Neutral Minion - Mish-Mash Mosher
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Annoying Fan is a Glacial Shard for mechs more or less. If your opponent can kill it immediately it has no effect but if they fail to kill it for multiple turns it's a better freeze. Though Glacial Shard was everywhere back in the day, I think this only makes the cut in mech decks.
Candleraiser - I'm not sure if it's good enough to see play but I think it might in standard. It gives your minions a decent amount of stickiness and has a decent body. It's no Fungalmancer or Battleground Battlemaster but it looks like a decent tempo card.
Party Animal is a decent menagerie card. If warrior still had it's stuff from Darkmoon faire I think it'd slot in perfectly. If there's a couple more cards that push menagerie decks this expansion maybe this does see play.
Mish-Mash Mosher is an okay big undead minion, it functions as a newer Batterhead, maybe if warlock or someone gets more big undead support this card sees play but, I don't see it right now. I'm not even certain if it's better than Batterhead and Hulking Overfiend
Crowd Surfer is probably not good enough to see play. It kind of sucks to play it on turn 1 without coining out something else and it could relatively easily work against you. Is probably really annoying for some decks at least.
Rowdy Fan is a okay 3 drop. The body while not amazing does ensure it sticks usually and you usually are using it to hit for an extra 4 damage immediately.
Obsessive Fan is easily the worst card of the bunch. Maybe if this was a 1 mana 1/3. I could humor it, but as a 4 drop this probably never making the cut. Maybe if you wanted to protect a naga giant or similar card, but probably not.
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New Neutral Minion - Party Animal
A new Common Neutral Minion, Party Animal, has been revealed!
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If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
New Neutral Minion - Obsessive Fan
A new Common Neutral Minion, Obsessive Fan, has been revealed!
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Learn more about Festival of Legends
Head on over to our dedicated guide for Festival of Legends!
Get Cheaper Card Packs
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If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.